Another co-incidence? The Earth's magnetic shield.

"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150 years
and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by some
other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

--

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" Richard Feynman

"What's it gotta do with cloud feedbacks?" Giga2

"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote in
message ...
| "At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present
| strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years
| and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
| declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
| achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."
|
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld
|
| Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
| magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some
| other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?
|
Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and Auntie Mathilda's birthday? Or could all be caused by
some
other factor, perhaps the dog's breakfast in origin?

And the answer to all four questions is a rousing and resounding "YES! It
COULD be!"

"Androcles" wrote in message
...

"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote
in
message ...
| "At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present
| strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years
| and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
| declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
| achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."
|
|
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld
|
| Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced
| magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some
| other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?
|
Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and Auntie Mathilda's birthday? Or could all be caused by
some
other factor, perhaps the dog's breakfast in origin?

And the answer to all four questions is a rousing and resounding "YES! It
COULD be!"

By what mechanism?

On Sep 7, 3:50 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:" Could there be any connection, as well as
correlation, between the reduced magnetic field and increased co2 or
warming? Or could all be caused by some other factor, perhaps galactic
in origin?"


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...0ded36bb6d3ef0
On Aug 31, 2:34 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
“To establish whether there is more cloud formation (if indeed the SAA
lets significantly more cosmic rays through which is doubtful) would
be a very difficult task and I very much doubt anyone has spent a
$billion trying to find out, yet.”

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...c581b81c37066b
On Aug 30, 2:12 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
“The complexities are so enormous and resources required so large that
I doubt anyone can really answer this question at present.”


i doubt your interest in this subjest is honest, and instead might
just be the usuall attempt to spread doubt by the denialists who dont
want to reduce green house gas emissions. For it appears you have
just taken up the subject even though you previously admitted you
doubt anyone can "answer the question" that a connection exists.

On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:50:11 +0100, "Giga2" "Giga2"
just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote:

"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150 years
and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by some
other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

Gods you're a stupid ****. Did you even attend high school?

--
TRUTH NEEDS ALLIES!
http://epa.gov/climatechange/

"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote in
message ...
"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150
years and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity
has declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by
some other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

An intelligent question: To which no climatologist has the answer.
But is the Earth really warming above anything that has been roughly the
norm before man started ridng around in SUV's?
I don't think so, in fact it is rather cooler than many periods before the
industrial age and of course rather warmer than any of the numerous ice
ages. So really things are very boringly average. Despite all the panic that
an irresponsible IPCC has created nothing very much is happening in
comparison with what has often gone before. Just looking at the climate,
time travellers wouldn't have the slightest idea what century or millenia
they had landed in. Would they? Not even measuring the global amount of CO2
would tell them anything as 400 ppm is nothing new. And if these ageless
travellers had been here a million years ago then they may be thinking it
was colder than they remembered before and wishing they had brought their
woolies.

One question that occurs to me is that as our magnetic field declines will
cancer increase?

On Sep 7, 5:50*am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present
strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the last 150 years
and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has
declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value
achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...e_of_the_geoma...

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the reduced
magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be caused by some
other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

--

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts" Richard Feynman

"What's it gotta do with cloud feedbacks?" Giga2

First law of global warming. If it is bad, it has something to do with
global warming. If it is good, it is irrelevant.

"columbiaaccidentinvestigation"
wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 3:50 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:" Could there be any connection, as well as
correlation, between the reduced magnetic field and increased co2 or
warming? Or could all be caused by some other factor, perhaps galactic
in origin?"


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...0ded36bb6d3ef0
On Aug 31, 2:34 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
“To establish whether there is more cloud formation (if indeed the SAA
lets significantly more cosmic rays through which is doubtful) would
be a very difficult task and I very much doubt anyone has spent a
$billion trying to find out, yet.”

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...c581b81c37066b
On Aug 30, 2:12 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
“The complexities are so enormous and resources required so large that
I doubt anyone can really answer this question at present.”


i doubt your interest in this subjest is honest, and instead might
just be the usuall attempt to spread doubt by the denialists who dont
want to reduce green house gas emissions. For it appears you have
just taken up the subject even though you previously admitted you
doubt anyone can "answer the question" that a connection exists.

=You seem to be a bit muddled. More cosmic rays are thought to perhaps cause
more clouds and therefore *cooling*! In this case I am asking by what
mechanism, if any, might magnetic field variation and co2 levels or
*warming* be linked. More the co2 as that is the more coincident signal.

"John" wrote in message
...

"Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe wrote
in message ...
"At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the
present strong deterioration corresponds to a 10-15% decline over the
last 150 years and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic
intensity has declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the
modern value achieved approximately 2,000 years ago."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...gnetic_fie ld

Could there be any connection, as well as correlation, between the
reduced magnetic field and increased co2 or warming? Or could all be
caused by some other factor, perhaps galactic in origin?

An intelligent question: To which no climatologist has the answer.
But is the Earth really warming above anything that has been roughly the
norm before man started ridng around in SUV's?
I don't think so, in fact it is rather cooler than many periods before the
industrial age and of course rather warmer than any of the numerous ice
ages. So really things are very boringly average. Despite all the panic
that an irresponsible IPCC has created nothing very much is happening in
comparison with what has often gone before. Just looking at the climate,
time travellers wouldn't have the slightest idea what century or millenia
they had landed in. Would they? Not even measuring the global amount of
CO2 would tell them anything as 400 ppm is nothing new. And if these
ageless travellers had been here a million years ago then they may be
thinking it was colder than they remembered before and wishing they had
brought their woolies.

I suppose I wouldn't go as far as you here. I think probably most of the co2
rise in the 1850s could have been due to human activity, but not fossil fuel
use, maybe whaling and fishing. But also is it just a coincidence that the
magnetic field starting weakening at about the same time quite drastically!?


One question that occurs to me is that as our magnetic field declines will
cancer increase?
There is some evidence that skin cancer rates have gone up AFAIK, which is
normally put down to the ozone hole but could be to do with this perhaps!?

On Sep 7, 6:48*am, "Giga2" "Giga2" just(removetheseandaddmatthe
wrote:
"columbiaaccidentinvestigation"
wrote in ...
On Sep 7, 3:50 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" wrote:" Could there be any connection, as well as

correlation, between the reduced magnetic field and increased co2 or
warming? Or could all be caused by some other factor, perhaps galactic
in origin?"

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...0ded36bb6d3ef0
On Aug 31, 2:34 am, "Giga2" "Giga2" wrote:

To establish whether there is more cloud formation (if indeed the SAA
lets significantly more cosmic rays through which is doubtful) would
be a very difficult task and I very much doubt anyone has spent a
$billion trying to find out, yet.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...c581b81c37066b
On Aug 30, 2:12 pm, "Giga2" "Giga2" wrote:

The complexities are so enormous and resources required so large that
I doubt anyone can really answer this question at present.

i doubt your interest in this subjest is honest, and instead might
just be the usuall attempt to spread doubt by the denialists who dont
want to reduce green house gas emissions. *For it appears you have
just taken up the subject even though you previously admitted you
doubt anyone can "answer the question" that a connection exists.

=You seem to be a bit muddled. More cosmic rays are thought to perhaps cause
more clouds and therefore *cooling*! In this case I am asking by what
mechanism, if any, might magnetic field variation and co2 levels or
*warming* be linked. More the co2 as that is the more coincident signal.

not muddled, more so not trusting of your words as you seem to be once
again approaching the issue with a "muddled view". So to clarify, we
understand increasing the amounts of co2 in the atmosphere changes the
composition, and the thermodynamic poperties of earths atmosphere.
There has been no shown connection between GCR and clouds, and yet
there is a connection between co2 and human actions, and co2 and
warming.