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On 28/09/2011 3:55 PM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
The underground laboratory is not in a mineshaft; it is next to the road
tunnel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratori_Nazionali_del_Gran_Sasso.

How do you come up with that interpretation? According your own link:

"The lab is located within the Gran Sasso and the Monti della Laga
National Park. The underground facilities are located next to a freeway
tunnel, the 10km long Traforo del Gran Sasso. The experimental halls are
covered by about 1400m of rock, protecting the experiments from cosmic
rays."

According to that, the experiment is located 1400m down. The tops of the
facilities might be next to the road tunnel, but the experiment itself
must be farther down.

Yousuf Khan

In sci.physics Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 28/09/2011 3:55 PM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
The underground laboratory is not in a mineshaft; it is next to the road
tunnel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratori_Nazionali_del_Gran_Sasso.

How do you come up with that interpretation? According your own link:

"The lab is located within the Gran Sasso and the Monti della Laga
National Park. The underground facilities are located next to a freeway
tunnel, the 10km long Traforo del Gran Sasso. The experimental halls are
covered by about 1400m of rock, protecting the experiments from cosmic
rays."

According to that, the experiment is located 1400m down.

No, it is not; according to that the experiment is covered by 1400m of rock
mountain and is not a 1400m hole in the ground.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Oct 4, 3:48*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 28/09/2011 3:55 PM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:

The underground laboratory is not in a mineshaft; it is next to the road
tunnel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratori_Nazionali_del_Gran_Sasso.

How do you come up with that interpretation? According your own link:

"The lab is located within the Gran Sasso and the Monti della Laga
National Park. The underground facilities are located next to a freeway
tunnel, the 10km long Traforo del Gran Sasso. The experimental halls are
covered by about 1400m of rock, protecting the experiments from cosmic
rays."

According to that, the experiment is located 1400m down. The tops of the
facilities might be next to the road tunnel, but the experiment itself
must be farther down.

* * * * Yousuf Khan

Errr, why can't the road tunnel also be under 1400m of rock? It is,
after all, a tunnel... right?

\Paul A

Yousuf Khan wrote:

On 26/09/2011 9:58 AM, Steve Pope wrote:

Yousuf wrote:

Did Pontecorvo predict specifically neutrino-antineutrino oscillations?

Yep

So then his prediction is not the same as the oscillation mechanism that
was eventually settled on? It's only a prediction along the same idea
line, but not really the same thing.

It's a different oscillation, yes. The flavor-change oscillations
that have been (it is claimed) actually observed are not going to
lead to observing supraluminal effects.

Steve

On 5 Ott, 02:03, palsing wrote:
On Oct 4, 3:48*pm, Yousuf Khan wrote:

On 28/09/2011 3:55 PM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:

The underground laboratory is not in a mineshaft; it is next to the road
tunnel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratori_Nazionali_del_Gran_Sasso.

How do you come up with that interpretation? According your own link:

"The lab is located within the Gran Sasso and the Monti della Laga
National Park. The underground facilities are located next to a freeway
tunnel, the 10km long Traforo del Gran Sasso. The experimental halls are
covered by about 1400m of rock, protecting the experiments from cosmic
rays."

According to that, the experiment is located 1400m down. The tops of the
facilities might be next to the road tunnel, but the experiment itself
must be farther down.

* * * * Yousuf Khan

Errr, why can't the road tunnel also be under 1400m of rock? It is,
after all, a tunnel... right?

\Paul A

The labs are to the side of the highway tunnel, under the rock. I gave
the link to the geodesy paper, in which there is the footprint of the
labs too, some posts back. Anyway the link is
http://operaweb.lngs.infn.it/Opera/p...es/note132.pdf
I happened to drive along that 10.5 Km tunnel, and to see the labs
entrance.
Antonio Iovane

In sci.astro message , Tue, 4 Oct 2011
18:48:46, Yousuf Khan posted:

On 28/09/2011 3:55 PM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
The underground laboratory is not in a mineshaft; it is next to the road
tunnel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratori_Nazionali_del_Gran_Sasso.

How do you come up with that interpretation? According your own link:

"The lab is located within the Gran Sasso and the Monti della Laga
National Park. The underground facilities are located next to a freeway
tunnel, the 10km long Traforo del Gran Sasso. The experimental halls
are covered by about 1400m of rock, protecting the experiments from
cosmic rays."

According to that, the experiment is located 1400m down. The tops of
the facilities might be next to the road tunnel, but the experiment
itself must be farther down.

Perhaps you have been using the word "mineshaft" without knowing what it
actually means. The Laboratory is near 42.46N, 13.57E and you can
"drive" along the road tunnel with Google Street Map. In top of the
Laboratory is 1400m of mountain.

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On 04/10/2011 23:48, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 28/09/2011 3:55 PM, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
The underground laboratory is not in a mineshaft; it is next to the road
tunnel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laboratori_Nazionali_del_Gran_Sasso.

How do you come up with that interpretation? According your own link:

"The lab is located within the Gran Sasso and the Monti della Laga
National Park. The underground facilities are located next to a freeway
tunnel, the 10km long Traforo del Gran Sasso. The experimental halls are
covered by about 1400m of rock, protecting the experiments from cosmic
rays."

According to that, the experiment is located 1400m down. The tops of the
facilities might be next to the road tunnel, but the experiment itself
must be farther down.

They take advantage of a road through a mountain. Strictly speaking it
is an adit - a near horizontal access tunnel to underground workings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adit

And modern surveying is very accurate even underground.
A 60' error is extremely unlikely.

Regards,
Martin Brown