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Exactly! The two are interchangeable by virtue of their being synonyms!
Anthony. Davoud wrote: I pronounce it "min" -- rhymes with "daniel joseph min." |
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Correct is relative...
I once was speaking to a group of students at a Catholic middle school and discussing this very planet when a kid asked me, "where do farts come from?". The Nun at the back of the room was 'nun' too pleased with the young man's question. Anyway, I usually pronounce it u-rahn-us. This avoids the "urine-us", and "your-anus" jokes that inevitably follow.... John Denver wrote: Eric wrote: Thats been bugging me, I've heard it pronounced a bunch of different ways but what is correct? -- Tom Rankin - Programmer by day, amateur astronomer by night! Mid-Hudson Astronomy Association - http://mhaa.whodeanie.com Views and Brews - http://viewsandbrews.com When replying, remove the capital letters from my email address. |
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Given that it's origin is the Greek "Ouranos", I see no point in
departing from that pronunciation. Best, Stephen Remove footfrommouth to reply -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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Brian Tung wrote:
Eric wrote: Thats been bugging me, I've heard it pronounced a bunch of different ways but what is correct? BTW: next time we are going to pass a world wide law that the name has to be something simple like "Dave" or "Hal" :-) If you were to pronounce it correctly, hardly anyone in the U.S. would recognize what you were saying. I've heard it--to my ears, it sounds something like "HOW-(g)hunz," where the "(g)h" indicates a slightly guttural sound, like "ch" in Scottish "loch." I remember in the most recent winter Olympics, a name beginning "Luyt-" was pronounced (I guess vaguely correctly) as "LOUT-." (The vowel sound I've represented isn't quite correct, but most people don't have an International Phonetic Alphabet character set, so you'll have to just deal.) Ordinarily Anglicized, I have heard both "HI-gunz" and "HOY-gunz." I prefer the latter myself, and it does seem to be more popular where I am, but there's no inherent reason for that, I don't think. HOY-gains is probably about as close to the correct Dutch pronounciation as an American can say. |
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starman wrote:
HOY-gains is probably about as close to the correct Dutch pronounciation as an American can say. I've heard the correct Dutch pronunciation, and HOY-gains is nowhere near it. The first diphthong sounds something like 'u' as in "cut" plus a German 'u'+umlaut. A reasonable approximation in English is "how," but the Dutch original sounds more fronted (that is, the vowel sounds pushed more to the front of the mouth). The second syllable is easier--it begins with something like 'ch' in Scottish "loch" and ends the same way as the English word "mountains." Hence my attempt at a phonetic spelling, "HOW-(g)huns." I think it's a moot point, though, since hardly anyone will know what you mean if you attempt the Dutch pronunciation (not in the U.S. in any case). I recommend either "HI-gunz" or "HOY-gunz," since both are common Anglicizations. The question reminds me of people wanting to know, a couple of decades ago, what the correct pronunciation of Io was. The prevailing pronunciation at the time was "EYE-oh," but some, aiming for correctness, went with the more European "EE-oh." Lost in all this, I believe, was the pronunciation of its sibling satellite, Ganymede. Everyone, without exception that I can remember, pronounced it "GAN-uh-meed" (or possibly "GAN-nim-eed"). But I find it somewhat hard to believe that the correct Greek pronunciation has an English-style silent E at the end. Does it? Brian Tung The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/ Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/ The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/ My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt |
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Brian Tung wrote:
The question reminds me of people wanting to know, a couple of decades ago, what the correct pronunciation of Io was. Wasn't it a Fox newsreader who pronounced it "Ten"? Lost in all this, I believe, was the pronunciation of its sibling satellite, Ganymede. Everyone, without exception that I can remember, pronounced it "GAN-uh-meed" (or possibly "GAN-nim-eed"). But I find it somewhat hard to believe that the correct Greek pronunciation has an English-style silent E at the end. Does it? It seems to me that it should have a not-so-silent E at the end: GA-ni-MEED-e. I'll probably stick with your second option above, though. And I absolutely refuse to refer to Spica (Speaker, Spikka, Spike-her) as AL-fa WEER-gin-iss. g Best, Stephen Remove footfrommouth to reply -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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Stephen Tonkin wrote (of "Io"):
Wasn't it a Fox newsreader who pronounced it "Ten"? I don't remember if it was Fox, but I do remember that story. It seems to me that it should have a not-so-silent E at the end: GA-ni-MEED-e. I'll probably stick with your second option above, though. And I absolutely refuse to refer to Spica (Speaker, Spikka, Spike-her) as AL-fa WEER-gin-iss. g You rhotic speakers and your obtrusive Rs. An abomination! I generally pronounce that star's name SPY-kuh, incidentally. Brian Tung The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/ Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/ The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/ My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt |
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Brian Tung wrote:
starman wrote: HOY-gains is probably about as close to the correct Dutch pronounciation as an American can say. I've heard the correct Dutch pronunciation, and HOY-gains is nowhere near it. snipped I assume you're talking about the 'correct' pronounciation at the website with the MP3 clip that was sited here recently. I listen to Dutch from the Netherlands on their foreign radio broadcasts. They have recently been saying the word 'Huygens' in their news reports. That's the source I'm using for suggesting that HOY-gains is close to the correct Dutch. Either the people in the MP3 clip have an accent or the news readers at Radio Netherlands do not represent the popular Dutch pronounciation, whatever that may be. |
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