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Old November 11th 08, 07:37 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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What gives? (why the delay?)

Is our DARPA and NASA telling India/ISRO what they can or can't do?

Is our Selene/moon still nondisclosure rated?

Why not allow India/ISRO to share raw/unaltered science data from all
11 instruments, including those original full digital frames of raw
(monochrome and color) images?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
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Old November 11th 08, 09:57 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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"BradGuth" wrote in message...
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What gives? (why the delay?)

Is our DARPA and NASA telling India/ISRO what they can or can't do?

Is our Selene/moon still nondisclosure rated?

Why not allow India/ISRO to share raw/unaltered science data from all
11 instruments, including those original full digital frames of raw
(monochrome and color) images?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Patience, Brad, patience! g

I don't think it's even been turned on yet, has it?...

http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/Nov08_2008.htm

And when they turn it on, it will take some time for
the Indian scientists to study their data and photos
without pressure from the outside world.

Kudos to the Indian Space Research Organization
(ISRO) space agency for a magnificent Selenar
exploratory mission!

Note in the above article the nomenclatures:

"periselene" and "aposelene"!

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Old November 11th 08, 02:49 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Nov 11, 12:57 am, "Painius" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message...

...



What gives? (why the delay?)


Is our DARPA and NASA telling India/ISRO what they can or can't do?


Is our Selene/moon still nondisclosure rated?


Why not allow India/ISRO to share raw/unaltered science data from all
11 instruments, including those original full digital frames of raw
(monochrome and color) images?


~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Patience, Brad, patience! g

I don't think it's even been turned on yet, has it?...

http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/Nov08_2008.htm

And when they turn it on, it will take some time for
the Indian scientists to study their data and photos
without pressure from the outside world.

Kudos to the Indian Space Research Organization
(ISRO) space agency for a magnificent Selenar
exploratory mission!

Note in the above article the nomenclatures:

"periselene" and "aposelene"!


We know that at least some if not most of the 11 science instruments
have been turned on, and their having sent back valid data, including
radiation status and otherwise images from their high resolution
cameras. Why the delay or need-to-know policy?

Either they have such science data and observationology worthy images
or they don’t. There’s no need of such information being studied or
much less modified before release to the general public that’s paying
for everything.

For example; What was the environment while within the Earth-Moon L1?

What sorts of bandpass or cutoff filters are currently being used on
behalf of their monochrome terrain imaging camera?

What is the dynamic range of either monochrome or color camera?

~ BG
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Old November 11th 08, 03:44 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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http://www.isro.org/pslv-c11/photos/...n/Moon_Enh.jpg


"BradGuth" wrote in message
...
On Nov 11, 12:57 am, "Painius" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message...

...



What gives? (why the delay?)


Is our DARPA and NASA telling India/ISRO what they can or can't do?


Is our Selene/moon still nondisclosure rated?


Why not allow India/ISRO to share raw/unaltered science data from all
11 instruments, including those original full digital frames of raw
(monochrome and color) images?


~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Patience, Brad, patience! g

I don't think it's even been turned on yet, has it?...

http://www.isro.org/pressrelease/Nov08_2008.htm

And when they turn it on, it will take some time for
the Indian scientists to study their data and photos
without pressure from the outside world.

Kudos to the Indian Space Research Organization
(ISRO) space agency for a magnificent Selenar
exploratory mission!

Note in the above article the nomenclatures:

"periselene" and "aposelene"!


We know that at least some if not most of the 11 science instruments
have been turned on, and their having sent back valid data, including
radiation status and otherwise images from their high resolution
cameras. Why the delay or need-to-know policy?

Either they have such science data and observationology worthy images
or they don’t. There’s no need of such information being studied or
much less modified before release to the general public that’s paying
for everything.

For example; What was the environment while within the Earth-Moon L1?

What sorts of bandpass or cutoff filters are currently being used on
behalf of their monochrome terrain imaging camera?

What is the dynamic range of either monochrome or color camera?

~ BG


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Old November 11th 08, 06:45 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Nov 11, 6:44 am, "harmony" wrote:
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c11/photos/...n/Moon_Enh.jpg


Interesting. Why exactly did they intentionally degrade their image?
(it worked perfectly while imaging Earth, even with narrow bandpass
filtering)

Was there too much Van Allan or Magnetosphere radiation, too much of
those UV secondary/recoil photons or perhaps too much of the sodium
saturated atmosphere to deal with?

When do we get to review their raw TIFF or fully uncompressed JPEG
formats?

Even GIF format will do nicely. So why bother to PhotoShop anything,
much less restrict the otherwise terrific dynamic range of either
monochrome or color images?

Why haven't they specified the filter(s) employed per given image?

Btw, why is their image archive “Directory Listing Denied”?
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c11/photos/...omchandrayaan/

~ BG
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Old November 11th 08, 10:24 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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BradGuth wrote:
On Nov 11, 6:44 am, "harmony" wrote:
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c11/photos/...n/Moon_Enh.jpg


Interesting. Why exactly did they intentionally degrade their image?
(it worked perfectly while imaging Earth, even with narrow bandpass
filtering)

Was there too much Van Allan or Magnetosphere radiation, too much of
those UV secondary/recoil photons or perhaps too much of the sodium
saturated atmosphere to deal with?


What 'sodium saturated atmosphere' are you talking about?
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Old November 11th 08, 10:42 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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"Jim Newman" wrote in message
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BradGuth wrote:
On Nov 11, 6:44 am, "harmony" wrote:
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c11/photos/...n/Moon_Enh.jpg


Interesting. Why exactly did they intentionally degrade their image?
(it worked perfectly while imaging Earth, even with narrow bandpass
filtering)

Was there too much Van Allan or Magnetosphere radiation, too much of
those UV secondary/recoil photons or perhaps too much of the sodium
saturated atmosphere to deal with?


What 'sodium saturated atmosphere' are you talking about?


GuthBall speaketh through his rectum ... he has no clue.
Now and then his sophomoric hallucinations get the upper hand.


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Old November 11th 08, 10:47 PM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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Jim Newman wrote:

Was there too much Van Allan or Magnetosphere radiation, too much of
those UV secondary/recoil photons or perhaps too much of the sodium
saturated atmosphere to deal with?


What 'sodium saturated atmosphere' are you talking about?


Brad thinks the moon is made of frozen salt water.
I kid you not.
He has managed to replicate aspects of the Nazi "Welteislehre"
cosmology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre
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Old November 12th 08, 12:04 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default CHANDRAYAAN = ? Photoshop + cut and paste ?

On Nov 11, 1:24 pm, Jim Newman wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Nov 11, 6:44 am, "harmony" wrote:
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c11/photos/...n/Moon_Enh.jpg


Interesting. Why exactly did they intentionally degrade their image?
(it worked perfectly while imaging Earth, even with narrow bandpass
filtering)


Was there too much Van Allan or Magnetosphere radiation, too much of
those UV secondary/recoil photons or perhaps too much of the sodium
saturated atmosphere to deal with?


What 'sodium saturated atmosphere' are you talking about?


Search for the words sodium and moon.

That Selene sodium, which isn't of much density at 9r, or even the
average of 50/cm3 out to a million km as within a comet like trail of
sodium still isn't all that bad, but otherwise it gets a bit more
populated or saturated at 1.1r or less. At 100 km they should be
right in the thick of it, especially near the surface of the solar
illuminated side should offer more abundance than above the cold
nighttime surface.

~ BG
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Old November 12th 08, 12:08 AM posted to soc.culture.indian,alt.astronomy,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Nov 11, 1:42 pm, "Hagar" wrote:
"Jim Newman" wrote in message

...

BradGuth wrote:
On Nov 11, 6:44 am, "harmony" wrote:
http://www.isro.org/pslv-c11/photos/...n/Moon_Enh.jpg


Interesting. Why exactly did they intentionally degrade their image?
(it worked perfectly while imaging Earth, even with narrow bandpass
filtering)


Was there too much Van Allan or Magnetosphere radiation, too much of
those UV secondary/recoil photons or perhaps too much of the sodium
saturated atmosphere to deal with?


What 'sodium saturated atmosphere' are you talking about?


GuthBall speaketh through his rectum ... he has no clue.
Now and then his sophomoric hallucinations get the upper hand.


These are not my clues. Others obviously smarter than both of us
combined have provided such clues for quite some time.

Are you saying there is no such lunar sodium?

~ BG
 




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