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Old November 28th 06, 05:21 PM posted to sci.space.history
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Once the LM was installed into the Saturn stage for launch, how was it
accessed? I'm assuming there was a way to fuel it on the pad. For that
matter, how was telemetry transmitted from it?

Thanks...

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Old November 28th 06, 06:22 PM posted to sci.space.history
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kwebster wrote:
Once the LM was installed into the Saturn stage for launch, how was it
accessed?


Through a hatch in the SLA panels, if I remember correctly.

Mark

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Old November 28th 06, 07:14 PM posted to sci.space.history
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:21:38 -0600, kwebster wrote
(in article .com):

Once the LM was installed into the Saturn stage for launch, how was it
accessed? I'm assuming there was a way to fuel it on the pad


I don't think so - I think the hypergolics were loaded before the LM
was loaded into the SLA and stacked in the VAB.

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Old November 29th 06, 04:13 AM posted to sci.space.history
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"Herb Schaltegger" wrote in
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:21:38 -0600, kwebster wrote
(in article .com):

Once the LM was installed into the Saturn stage for launch, how was it
accessed? I'm assuming there was a way to fuel it on the pad


I don't think so - I think the hypergolics were loaded before the LM
was loaded into the SLA and stacked in the VAB.

Herb -

From what I have read -- I believe that is correct.
How was the telemetry received - when the LM was stored above the Saturn IVB
?

I know from the Apollo 9 launch that Launch Control & Mission Control were
watching the helium disk pressure (high) before launch in spring 1969

gb


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Old November 29th 06, 04:28 AM posted to sci.space.history
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"Herb Schaltegger" wrote in
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:21:38 -0600, kwebster wrote
(in article .com):

Once the LM was installed into the Saturn stage for launch, how was it
accessed? I'm assuming there was a way to fuel it on the pad


I don't think so - I think the hypergolics were loaded before the LM
was loaded into the SLA and stacked in the VAB.


Not sure about fueling it, but almost positive I've seen a picture of access
to it from behind the SLA.



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Old November 29th 06, 05:13 AM posted to sci.space.history
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In article .com,
kwebster wrote:
Once the LM was installed into the Saturn stage for launch, how was it
accessed? I'm assuming there was a way to fuel it on the pad...


There was a hatch in the side of the Instrument Unit, the electronics ring
that topped off the Saturn proper. That was used for IU work, including
installation of the IU flight batteries, but it also gave access to the
LM, since there wasn't any top on the IU and the LM sat in the adapter
immediately above it.

The LM was fueled on the pad, a week or so before launch (as was the CSM).
LM fueling access was via the IU hatch, with removable work platforms set
up inside (remember, the IU was about 7m in diameter).

For that matter, how was telemetry transmitted from it?


There was an umbilical cable in the adapter, connecting the LM to the IU.
The LM end of it was cut as part of the LM separation sequence.
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Old November 29th 06, 02:46 PM posted to sci.space.history
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On Nov 29, 12:13 am, (Henry Spencer) wrote:
In article .com,

kwebster wrote:
Once the LM was installed into the Saturn stage for launch, how was it
accessed? I'm assuming there was a way to fuel it on the pad...There was a hatch in the side of the Instrument Unit, the electronics ring

that topped off the Saturn proper. That was used for IU work, including
installation of the IU flight batteries, but it also gave access to the
LM, since there wasn't any top on the IU and the LM sat in the adapter
immediately above it.

The LM was fueled on the pad, a week or so before launch (as was the CSM).
LM fueling access was via the IU hatch, with removable work platforms set
up inside (remember, the IU was about 7m in diameter).

For that matter, how was telemetry transmitted from it?There was an umbilical cable in the adapter, connecting the LM to the IU.

The LM end of it was cut as part of the LM separation sequence.
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Thanks.

Working in that space must have been an "interesting" experience.

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Old November 29th 06, 05:01 PM posted to sci.space.history
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kwebster wrote:
Once the LM was installed into the Saturn stage for launch, how was it
accessed? I'm assuming there was a way to fuel it on the pad. For that
matter, how was telemetry transmitted from it?

Thanks...


I think there were doors in the side of the SLA just above the IU. I
believe there was also access through the S-IVB forward arm on the
launch tower.

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Old December 20th 06, 04:44 AM posted to sci.space.history
Henry Spencer
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In article ,
David Lesher wrote:
There was an umbilical cable in the adapter, connecting the LM to the IU.
The LM end of it was cut as part of the LM separation sequence.


Did that supply power as well?


On the ground, almost certainly (references aren't handy at the moment),
from one of the umbilical arms. Not in flight -- there was a rule that in
the flight configuration, power did not cross the launcher-spacecraft
boundary.
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