Just heard: they nailed that recon satellite

Seems they hit it at about 10:30 PM EST.

robert casey wrote:

Seems they hit it at about 10:30 PM EST.

So, when and where do we expect the meteor shower?

robert casey wrote:

Seems they hit it at about 10:30 PM EST.

Good shootin' boys and girls.

Where's the fun in shooting something if it becomes more dangerous
after you've hit it than it was before?


"No, no, don't do that. If you shoot it you'll just make him mad."

On Feb 21, 2:47*am, Neil Gerace wrote:
Where's the fun in shooting something if it becomes more dangerous
after you've hit it than it was before?

"No, no, don't do that. If you shoot it you'll just make him mad."

Send it a candygram!

On Feb 20, 8:56 pm, kT wrote:
robert casey wrote:
Seems they hit it at about 10:30 PM EST.

So, when and where do we expect the meteor shower?

A good shower of hot and nasty stuff for at least the next month or
so, sounds about right.

Just silly pondering, as to what's the all-inclusive combined $$$
investment here?

We talking of the initial satellite R&D, of it's launch and multiple
efforts trying to fix a seriously dead DoD/MI5/CIA horse, then the
spendy kill and now the ongoing tracking and bit by bit clean up that
could go on for years, and that's if nothing else encounters said
debris in the mean time.

That all-inclusive tally has got to be spendy.

Otherwise, that's also an impressive accomplishment, a direct hit at
roughly 10 km/s in 3D space is proof positive that if we know exactly
where the target is at any given moment, and having all the very best
of terrestrial and space applied tracking and navigation in addition
to whatever AI the missile itself had to work with, that we can in
fact take out any number of satellites or incoming ICBM's that are not
using stealth or tactical avoidance measures.

Of course, now we've got another month of orbital decay debris to
contend with, and likely some of that satellite debris that's
unavoidably headed a bit higher and going off in multiple directions
at the same time that is either unknown or nondisclosure rated as to
how many years before such artificial and potentially lethal flak
returns to Earth.
.. - Brad Guth

"No, no, don't do that. If you shoot it you'll just make him mad."


Send it a candygram!

"Mumm, recon satellite like candygram..." KaBoom!!! :-)

On Feb 20, 9:18 pm, "Matt Wiser" wrote:
robert casey wrote:

Seems they hit it at about 10:30 PM EST.

Good shootin' boys and girls.

Unless talking about utilizing a directional impact or controlled
blast from the top down, orbital debris has in fact gone far and wide
to either side of the original path, as well as some parts going
further up into extended LEO. I believe it has something to do with
the laws of physics.

Of any spy satellite worth half its nearly billion dollar investment
would have had at least three of everything that was mission critical
at its disposal (plus having a auto-destruct feature). How can all
three of those spendy failsafe systems have gone so entirely into the
toilet, especially right off the bat?

A good shower of hot and nasty stuff for at least the next month or
so, sounds about right, perhaps covering a +/- 100 km deorbit path of
incoming flak that all future air and space travels should avoid for
at least the next month, and of LEO usage having to avoid a similar
gauntlet (including at least an extra 100 km of debris height) for at
minimum another good year or more.

Now that's an impressive accomplishment, a direct hit at roughly 10 km/
s in 3D space is proof positive we've got the right stuff, that is if
we've known exactly where the target is at any given moment, and
having all the very best of terrestrial and space applied tracking and
navigation in addition to whatever AI the missile itself had to work
with, that we can in fact take out a number of satellites or incoming
ICBM's that are not of any surprise and using stealth or tactical
avoidance measures.

Of course, now we've created another month of somewhat iffy orbital
decay debris to contend with, and likely some of that satellite debris
that's unavoidably headed a bit higher as well as going off in
multiple LEO directions at the same time, that's for the moment either
unknown or nondisclosure rated as to how many years before such
artificial and potentially lethal flak returns to Earth, and them
smaller bits of satellite that moved upwards and having good density
are simply not going to create all that much aerobraking for some time
to come.
.. - Brad Guth

smaller bits of satellite that moved upwards and having good density
are simply not going to create all that much aerobraking for some time
to come.
. - Brad Guth


Apogee will be higher, but the perigee will still be in the extreme
upper atmosphere, and will eventually get dragged down and reenter. Be
a while though.

On Feb 22, 11:10 am, robert casey wrote:
smaller bits of satellite that moved upwards and having good density
are simply not going to create all that much aerobraking for some time
to come.
. - Brad Guth

Apogee will be higher, but the perigee will still be in the extreme
upper atmosphere, and will eventually get dragged down and reenter. Be
a while though.

Can the upper most or worse case Apogee reach into the path of ISS?
.. - Brad Guth