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Old February 8th 08, 02:12 AM posted to sci.space.history, sci.space.policy
Damien Valentine
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Default Science Channel Lunokhod program

On Feb 6, 10:07*am, Brian Thorn wrote:

There have been some good programs on lately. Discovery HD Theater had
an intesting documentary about Explorer 1 and the early space age the
other day. History Channel (usually overwhelmed by documentaries on
Bigfoot and UFOs) has a good series called "The Universe" which had a
good episode about spaceflight last night.

Brian


I've found "Universe" to be hit-or-miss myself. The comparisons they
try to make with familiar things are what really bother me: isn't
there _anything_ more similar to the stellar life cycle than a
casino? But they get an "A" for effort, I'll grant you that!
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Old February 9th 08, 05:27 AM posted to sci.space.history, sci.space.policy
BradGuth
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Default Science Channel Lunokhod program

So, now you can't even honestly count those obvious pixels, much less
deductively connect any of those pixels as long as there's any slim
chance that I'm actually right about there having been intelligent
other life existing/coexisting on Venus.

Is thy why there's always this Usenet deadness or pretentious denial
whenever I bring up Venus (aka Guth Venus)?
. - Brad Guth


American wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:32�pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 7, 6:02 am, American wrote:

On Feb 7, 7:36 am, BradGuth wrote:


: 1) I don't do internet movie crap.
:
No, you just do internet picture crap.


What's "internet picture crap" about a 36 confirming radar look per
pixel image?

What the hell do you consider as offering a good digital image?

Is not an extremely large tarmac along with a good number of other
large artificial features sufficient?

Don't you even so much as believe in the regular laws of physics?

Isn't the best available science that's peer replicated worth squat?



:
: 2) If you had something specific to say that had anything to
: do with sharing the truth, you'd have said it. �Obviously you
: have nothing to say, and not even an honest question to ask.
:
Yes, I do have many questions, but my questions are just
not the type that your colonial, moon type mindsets are
worth the effort.


Face it Brad, the moon itself sucks as a base of operations
for anything except as an observation post. What the hell
are we as a species supposed to learn from it? That it's
worth spending as much as a *trillion* for taking samples
of moondust? That we're far enough from the earth in order
to subvert communications with any private enterprise
seeking to conquer the entire mapping of the solar system?


I agree that our physically dark and gamma plus X-ray saturated moon
sucks, but it's by far offering the best outpost potential in town, at
least the moon's L1 is worth at trillions per year in sheer profits if
it only had my LSE-CM/ISS.



All of these technologies border on being scientifically
heretical, given the potential that actually exists for space
exploration - be it Apollo-like, Elon Musk-like, Branson-like,
or even Rutan-like.


By "Apollo-like", you'd have to mean as based upon lies and a mutually
perpetrated cold-war that cost us trillions of our hard earned loot
per decade to pull off.



This is in no way to diminish from what these space pioneers
have already accomplished. They are laying the groundwork
for future space-entrepreneurialism to reign in the creation
of new promise markets.


In a way, we need competition from the Russians, and
maybe even the Chinese - but most "earthlings" have
absolutely NO IDEA of the potential that space exploration
offers to us.


I agree with that last honest set of notions. �However, most Americans
are simply born-again liars and dumbfounded into denial of their being
in denial, so therefore nothing actually matters other than self
greed, arrogance and insurmountable bigotry that has faith-based us
into the nearest toilet.



Worried about global warming? Then I think it's time to
get out of here. Worried about Armageddon? Then it's
time to get out of here.


I've been there and done that at least a hundred times. �No one in
charge really cares, and of those which could help instead go out of
their all-knowing way in order to topic/author stalk, bash and impose
as much banishment as they can muster. �And you know damn good and
well who is most in charge, don't you.



You see, Brad, if we value ourselves as a species that
was supposed to inherit some promise from the Creator,
then we must continue to find, explore, and conquer
new territory of that promise in the name of the Creator
of Heaven and Earth.


But most of us have been systematically snookered to death and
dumbfounded past the point of no return, much like yourself.



We're being watched - probably to make sure that we
make the right technological moves in this direction,
but socialism is at an all time high - it's as if some of us
are too "scared" to venture out on our own, without
dragging the creature comforts of the entire earth
with us. That smacks of too much self indulgence.
The glory of God should be revealed THROUGH us,
not IN US.


That's true. �We're a rather pathetic species of the extremely wussy
kind, and as such we'll believe in most anything our corrupt
government tells us, even if it's a well proven set of lies upon lies,
and there are dead bodies of mostly innocent folks lying all over the
place makes no difference.

:
: 3) Could you give us a link to an external page of whatever
: facts and honest interpretations as having been created
: and/or contributed to by "American"?
:
What? Then I would be giving up some of what I feel
is more important to the future of interstellar communication
than market manipulation. Go figure.


I've already figured that you're another lost cause, as well as
perhaps too dumb and dumber to go figure out much of anything that's
not already Old Testament scripted.

BTW what laser beam frequency and modulation are you using for
accomplishing that interstellar communications?



: Obviously you and others of your silly kind are not even
: the least bit real, because you continually hide behind
: anything that'll cover your butt.
:
Most or all of our luke warm butts are already covered by
things like the tax-and-spend policies of the last 6 presidents,
from what I can gather. How is that supposed to protect
our sovereignity, as well as our promise market potential,
when we get the same old, scripted NWO policy passed
on through at least 2 generations?


As I've said before, apparently you will believe in anything published
by our government, including that part about having walked on the
moon. �If you're that easily snookered and dumbfounded past the point
of not return, then what's the difference?

:
: If and when ETs kick our butts, it will not matter what
: flag waves because, it'll only be stuffed up the ass of folks
: much like yourself, that which could care less about the
: past, present or future.
:
I see, every alien out there seeks to destroy our kind,
because people like "Brad Guth" has already established
our co-dependency with whoever seeks to dominate
the species. How convenient.


And all along I thought you were an American.


Sheez.


Could you possibly be any more off-world negative or simply out-of-
context? (Hitler wasn't even as dumb and dumber naysay as yourself,
and to think that he along with his Semitic friends almost got in
charge of the entire world)

In other words, you'll believe anything published by our government,
and apparently in your world there's no such thing as a government
that lies or much less a bad Yid.
. - Brad Guth


On Feb 7, 12:32 pm, BradGuth wrote:
:: On Feb 7, 6:02 am, American wrote:
: On Feb 7, 7:36 am, BradGuth wrote:
:
:: 1) I don't do internet movie crap.
::
:: No, you just do internet picture crap.
:
: What's "internet picture crap" about a 36 confirming radar
: look per pixel image?
:
It's eye-for-an-eye, using the Guth Old Testament method.
Those movie images were not exactly the perfectly planned
"map" that the Guth Venus images were, but they were a darn
good focus on the best intelligent life that the blackest
of space had to offer. So what ARE you up to with noticing,
developing, or extrapolating an intelligent presence on
places like Venus? What IS it about Venus that is so gosh
darn attractive, that would provide a rendezvous point for
the rest of the solar system, as well as the rest of the
galaxy? Does it have to do with mining the metallic asteroids?
If it does, then I'm game - but we're talking more than just
a remake of the Apollo years - we're talking about changing
the mindset of the entire country.

The "mask" on foreign affairs has to do with protecting
our own interests as a God-fearing people, when the public
perception becomes that of INCLUSIVITY with the luke-warm
pundits of liberalism. Our own military is in danger of
falling prey to the interests of outsiders, if the national
debt has to get refinanced through private interest.
There can be no private interest at stake here if, and when,
payback time comes.

What part of the NWO is paying for this? The conflicting
interest here manifests as a false reality when lukewarm
Republicans must act as if they're on the defensive,
when the truly conservative elements within the party
have the ability to grasp what the Holy Spirit is saying
to all of us as a nation, and in exercising their free
speech, become targets of the very party that we've
helped to establish at the grass roots level.

Who must become the alternative candidate to Mitt Romney,
if both McCain and Romney share opinions that we need to
continue funding the protection of not only our energy
(dependent) interests, but also as a foreign power problem
diversion (namely, Russian and Chinese arms sent to places
like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria) aimed against Israel?
:
: What the hell do you consider as offering a good digital
: image?
:
An SAR flyby utilizing duplex information transmission of
the date and time stamped spectra by using multiple levels
of frequency, phase, and amplitude modulation, can provide
in-packet data rates at 750 bps.� Twelve frames of 64 cells
each require transmission of 768 bits per second, so each 11
frames would require less than the maximum allowed (750) bps
for a single in-packet data rate.

Depending on the digital responsivity and data transfer rate,
resolution is sharpest for photobit's PB-1024 CMOS image
sensor. The readout chip would, logically, not be part of
the electronics of the GAMS flyby. The reason being because
common pixellated scintillators cannot resolve energy for
tuning the close band frequencies between molecular
transition shells. Signals recieved at the GAMS would
consist of two arrays. The first being an 18 X 20 array of
position sensitive photomultiplier tubes in a 1.5m^2 focal
plane with a position resolution of ~1 X 10^4mm. The reason
for such a small imaging area is so that individual molecules
of precious metal may indicate the presence of a larger
field for mining; also if a spectacular number of spectro-
graphic hits were to exceed a count rate approaching approx-
imately one thousand molecular crystals, a second array
consisting of an 18 X 20 array of PSPMT's in a 1.5m^2 focal
plane with a position resolution of ~1 X 10^5mm would
continue mapping; and again programmed to limitations
similar to the circuitry of the detection processor.
:
: Isn't the best available science that's peer
: replicated worth squat?
:
The peers *do not yet recognize* the significance of a
science until it stares them in the face. Seems like all
or most dumbfounded naysaying mandarin Congress and Senate
"nationalists" are dominionists who have become the full
time invalidators in seeking their full covering of their
national flags, or beginning to fondle their swords
(or guns) with a lust for more power. Lukewarm McCain,
the no-military-industrial-establishment-left-behind-
dumb-the-economy-down, transnationalist-whore-baited
opportunist must seek to purge the conservative base
of all semblence of scientifically intuitive-based
alternative to the energy warthog, with the everybody-gets-
screwed version of a revalidated, metered fear-mongering
values system, which again becomes even more based on
the power elite than the true promises of Almighty God.
The hole of debt thus uncovers a deeper truth - that
truth being, that the national debt is measured more
AGAINST the people of America than FOR...
:::
::: 2) If you had something specific to say that had anything to
::: do with sharing the truth, you'd have said it. Obviously you
::: have nothing to say, and not even an honest question to ask.
:::
:: Yes, I do have many questions, but my questions are just
:: not the type that your colonial, moon type mindsets are
:: worth the effort.
::
:: Face it Brad, the moon itself sucks as a base of operations
:: for anything except as an observation post. What the hell
:: are we as a species supposed to learn from it? That it's
:: worth spending as much as a *trillion* for taking samples
:: of moondust? That we're far enough from the earth in order
:: to subvert communications with any private enterprise
:: seeking to conquer the entire mapping of the solar system?
:
: I agree that our physically dark and gamma plus X-ray
: saturated moon sucks, but it's by far offering the best
: outpost potential in town, at least the moon's L1 is worth
: at trillions per year in sheer profits if it only had
: my LSE-CM/ISS.
:
I almost wish you did too, but in whose name are we
doing all of these Federal-Reserve-Note funded projects,
take you're pick - is it the the Malaysians, the Chinese,
Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns, or both?
::
:: All of these technologies border on being scientifically
:: heretical, given the potential that actually exists for
:: space exploration - be it Apollo-like, Elon Musk-like,
:: Branson-like, or even Rutan-like.
::
:: By "Apollo-like", you'd have to mean as based upon lies
:: and a mutually perpetrated cold-war that cost us trillions
:: of our hard earned loot per decade to pull off.
::
:: This is in no way to diminish from what these space pioneers
:: have already accomplished. They are laying the groundwork
:: for future space-entrepreneurialism to reign in the creation
:: of new promise markets.
::
:: In a way, we need competition from the Russians, and
:: maybe even the Chinese - but most "earthlings" have
:: absolutely NO IDEA of the potential that space exploration
:: offers to us.
::
: I agree with that last honest set of notions. However,
: most Americans are simply born-again liars and dumbfounded
: into denial of their being in denial, so therefore nothing
: actually matters other than self greed, arrogance and insur-
: mountable bigotry that has faith-based us into the
: nearest toilet.
:
If that's YOUR WITNESS to destiny, then so be it.
IMO, I'd appreciate a little more cause-and-effect from the
local think tank or two, barring any retrograded, dumbing-
down that might come our way.
::
:: Worried about global warming? Then I think it's time to
:: get out of here. Worried about Armageddon? Then it's
:: time to get out of here.
::
: I've been there and done that at least a hundred times.
: No one in charge really cares, and of those which could help
: instead go out of their all-knowing way in order to
: topic/author stalk, bash and impose as much banishment as
: they can muster. And you know damn good and
: well who is most in charge, don't you.
:
The guy who "thinks" he's in charge knows that he's running
out of time - why do you think all this party commotion
is going on? You see, Brad, the forces of darkness have
always been at war with the forces of light, and we, being
illumined to the fact that those prophets of nearly 2000
years ago foretold of these days, makes the "darkness"
scramble in order to try to dim the light of truth.
(So much for one big happy party of believers).
::
:: You see, Brad, if we value ourselves as a species that
:: was supposed to inherit some promise from the Creator,
:: then we must continue to find, explore, and conquer
:: new territory of that promise in the name of the Creator
:: of Heaven and Earth.
:
: But most of us have been systematically snookered to death
: and dumbfounded past the point of no return, much
: like yourself.
:
Not I, nor the watchmen at the tower, nor the Holy Spirit,
will allow those who put their faith in the dead man who
walked again, to be tempted beyond what we are capable of
handling, if that kind of protection suits you well.
::
:: We're being watched - probably to make sure that we
:: make the right technological moves in this direction,
:: but socialism is at an all time high - it's as if some
:: of us are too "scared" to venture out on our own, without
:: dragging the creature comforts of the entire earth
:: with us. That smacks of too much self indulgence.
:: The glory of God should be revealed THROUGH us,
:: not IN US.
::
: That's true. We're a rather pathetic species of the
: extremely wussy kind, and as such we'll believe in most
: anything our corrupt government tells us, even if it's a
: well proven set of lies upon lies, and there are dead bodies
: of mostly innocent folks lying all over the place makes
: no difference.
:
You notice the intrusion of government by incrementalism
into the lives of those being led by the false promise markets
also? They are also the warriors that have died in the cause
to protect our freedoms as citizens of the U.S.

May Almighty God also protect their families and fortunes.
:::
::: 3) Could you give us a link to an external page of whatever
::: facts and honest interpretations as having been created
::: and/or contributed to by "American"?
:::
:: What? Then I would be giving up some of what I feel
:: is more important to the future of interstellar communication
:: than market manipulation. Go figure.
::
:: I've already figured that you're another lost cause, as well
:: as perhaps too dumb and dumber to go figure out much of
:: anything that's not already Old Testament scripted.
::
: BTW what laser beam frequency and modulation are you using
: for accomplishing that interstellar communications?
:
You're prying, but I can at least tell you that the type of
communications I'm talking about here are definitely NOT
electronic or electromagnetic.
:::
::: Obviously you and others of your silly kind are not even
::: the least bit real, because you continually hide behind
::: anything that'll cover your butt.
:::
:: Most or all of our luke warm butts are already covered by
:: things like the tax-and-spend policies of the last
:: 6 presidents, from what I can gather. How is that supposed
:: to protect our sovereignity, as well as our promise market
:: potential, when we get the same old, scripted NWO policy
:: passed on through at least 2 generations?
::
: As I've said before, apparently you will believe in anything
: published by our government, including that part about having
: walked on the moon. If you're that easily snookered and dumb-
: founded past the point of not return, then what's
: the difference?
:
A lot of what gets researched by NASA, also gets sequestered
within the ranks of the military industrial establishment,
just in case someone decides that some pro-territorial U.S.
Force requires it more than a non-territorial one.
:::
::: If and when ETs kick our butts, it will not matter what
::: flag waves because, it'll only be stuffed up the ass of folks
::: much like yourself, that which could care less about the
::: past, present or future.
:::
:: I see, every alien out there seeks to destroy our kind,
:: because people like "Brad Guth" has already established
:: our co-dependency with whoever seeks to dominate
:: the species. How convenient.
::
:: And all along I thought you were an American.
::
:: Sheez.
:
: Could you possibly be any more off-world negative or simply
: out-of-context? (Hitler wasn't even as dumb and dumber naysay
: as yourself, and to think that he along with his Semitic
: friends almost got in charge of the entire world)
:
: In other words, you'll believe anything published by our
: government, and apparently in your world there's no such
: thing as a government that lies or much less a bad Yid.
:
At some point in time, doesn't it really seem that the
enthusiasm for a national hero that we're being told (aka,
McCain) gets so contagious that nations "are on a roll"
with the rest of the world in tow. At this time, are we
as a sovereign people aware of who the "collectors" are
that may one day seek repayment of our national debt?

You can count me out on that one.

American
:
: . - Brad Guth

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Old February 9th 08, 03:05 PM posted to sci.space.history, sci.space.policy
eyeball
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Default Science Channel Lunokhod program

Yes Brad you're right,and we're wrong.You convinced us of the
coverup.Now what can we ever do about it?
On Feb 9, 12:27Â*am, BradGuth wrote:
So, now you can't even honestly count those obvious pixels, much less
deductively connect any of those pixels as long as there's any slim
chance that I'm actually right about there having been intelligent
other life existing/coexisting on Venus.

Is thy why there's always this Usenet deadness or pretentious denial
whenever I bring up Venus (aka Guth Venus)?
. - Brad Guth



American wrote:
On Feb 7, 12:32�pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 7, 6:02 am, American wrote:


On Feb 7, 7:36 am, BradGuth wrote:


: 1) I don't do internet movie crap.
:
No, you just do internet picture crap.


What's "internet picture crap" about a 36 confirming radar look per
pixel image?


What the hell do you consider as offering a good digital image?


Is not an extremely large tarmac along with a good number of other
large artificial features sufficient?


Don't you even so much as believe in the regular laws of physics?


Isn't the best available science that's peer replicated worth squat?


:
: 2) If you had something specific to say that had anything to
: do with sharing the truth, you'd have said it. �Obviously you
: have nothing to say, and not even an honest question to ask.
:
Yes, I do have many questions, but my questions are just
not the type that your colonial, moon type mindsets are
worth the effort.


Face it Brad, the moon itself sucks as a base of operations
for anything except as an observation post. What the hell
are we as a species supposed to learn from it? That it's
worth spending as much as a *trillion* for taking samples
of moondust? That we're far enough from the earth in order
to subvert communications with any private enterprise
seeking to conquer the entire mapping of the solar system?


I agree that our physically dark and gamma plus X-ray saturated moon
sucks, but it's by far offering the best outpost potential in town, at
least the moon's L1 is worth at trillions per year in sheer profits if
it only had my LSE-CM/ISS.


All of these technologies border on being scientifically
heretical, given the potential that actually exists for space
exploration - be it Apollo-like, Elon Musk-like, Branson-like,
or even Rutan-like.


By "Apollo-like", you'd have to mean as based upon lies and a mutually
perpetrated cold-war that cost us trillions of our hard earned loot
per decade to pull off.


This is in no way to diminish from what these space pioneers
have already accomplished. They are laying the groundwork
for future space-entrepreneurialism to reign in the creation
of new promise markets.


In a way, we need competition from the Russians, and
maybe even the Chinese - but most "earthlings" have
absolutely NO IDEA of the potential that space exploration
offers to us.


I agree with that last honest set of notions. �However, most Americans
are simply born-again liars and dumbfounded into denial of their being
in denial, so therefore nothing actually matters other than self
greed, arrogance and insurmountable bigotry that has faith-based us
into the nearest toilet.


Worried about global warming? Then I think it's time to
get out of here. Worried about Armageddon? Then it's
time to get out of here.


I've been there and done that at least a hundred times. �No one in
charge really cares, and of those which could help instead go out of
their all-knowing way in order to topic/author stalk, bash and impose
as much banishment as they can muster. �And you know damn good and
well who is most in charge, don't you.


You see, Brad, if we value ourselves as a species that
was supposed to inherit some promise from the Creator,
then we must continue to find, explore, and conquer
new territory of that promise in the name of the Creator
of Heaven and Earth.


But most of us have been systematically snookered to death and
dumbfounded past the point of no return, much like yourself.


We're being watched - probably to make sure that we
make the right technological moves in this direction,
but socialism is at an all time high - it's as if some of us
are too "scared" to venture out on our own, without
dragging the creature comforts of the entire earth
with us. That smacks of too much self indulgence.
The glory of God should be revealed THROUGH us,
not IN US.


That's true. �We're a rather pathetic species of the extremely wussy
kind, and as such we'll believe in most anything our corrupt
government tells us, even if it's a well proven set of lies upon lies,
and there are dead bodies of mostly innocent folks lying all over the
place makes no difference.


:
: 3) Could you give us a link to an external page of whatever
: facts and honest interpretations as having been created
: and/or contributed to by "American"?
:
What? Then I would be giving up some of what I feel
is more important to the future of interstellar communication
than market manipulation. Go figure.


I've already figured that you're another lost cause, as well as
perhaps too dumb and dumber to go figure out much of anything that's
not already Old Testament scripted.


BTW what laser beam frequency and modulation are you using for
accomplishing that interstellar communications?


: Obviously you and others of your silly kind are not even
: the least bit real, because you continually hide behind
: anything that'll cover your butt.
:
Most or all of our luke warm butts are already covered by
things like the tax-and-spend policies of the last 6 presidents,
from what I can gather. How is that supposed to protect
our sovereignity, as well as our promise market potential,
when we get the same old, scripted NWO policy passed
on through at least 2 generations?


As I've said before, apparently you will believe in anything published
by our government, including that part about having walked on the
moon. �If you're that easily snookered and dumbfounded past the point
of not return, then what's the difference?


:
: If and when ETs kick our butts, it will not matter what
: flag waves because, it'll only be stuffed up the ass of folks
: much like yourself, that which could care less about the
: past, present or future.
:
I see, every alien out there seeks to destroy our kind,
because people like "Brad Guth" has already established
our co-dependency with whoever seeks to dominate
the species. How convenient.


And all along I thought you were an American.


Sheez.


Could you possibly be any more off-world negative or simply out-of-
context? (Hitler wasn't even as dumb and dumber naysay as yourself,
and to think that he along with his Semitic friends almost got in
charge of the entire world)


In other words, you'll believe anything published by our government,
and apparently in your world there's no such thing as a government
that lies or much less a bad Yid.
. - Brad Guth


On Feb 7, 12:32 pm, BradGuth wrote:
:: On Feb 7, 6:02 am, American wrote:
: On Feb 7, 7:36 am, BradGuth wrote:
:
:: 1) I don't do internet movie crap.
::
:: No, you just do internet picture crap.
:
: What's "internet picture crap" about a 36 confirming radar
: look per pixel image?
:
It's eye-for-an-eye, using the Guth Old Testament method.
Those movie images were not exactly the perfectly planned
"map" that the Guth Venus images were, but they were a darn
good focus on the best intelligent life that the blackest
of space had to offer. So what ARE you up to with noticing,
developing, or extrapolating an intelligent presence on
places like Venus? What IS it about Venus that is so gosh
darn attractive, that would provide a rendezvous point for
the rest of the solar system, as well as the rest of the
galaxy? Does it have to do with mining the metallic asteroids?
If it does, then I'm game - but we're talking more than just
a remake of the Apollo years - we're talking about changing
the mindset of the entire country.


The "mask" on foreign affairs has to do with protecting
our own interests as a God-fearing people, when the public
perception becomes that of INCLUSIVITY with the luke-warm
pundits of liberalism. Our own military is in danger of
falling prey to the interests of outsiders, if the national
debt has to get refinanced through private interest.
There can be no private interest at stake here if, and when,
payback time comes.


What part of the NWO is paying for this? The conflicting
interest here manifests as a false reality when lukewarm
Republicans must act as if they're on the defensive,
when the truly conservative elements within the party
have the ability to grasp what the Holy Spirit is saying
to all of us as a nation, and in exercising their free
speech, become targets of the very party that we've
helped to establish at the grass roots level.


Who must become the alternative candidate to Mitt Romney,
if both McCain and Romney share opinions that we need to
continue funding the protection of not only our energy
(dependent) interests, but also as a foreign power problem
diversion (namely, Russian and Chinese arms sent to places
like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria) aimed against Israel?
:
: What the hell do


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eyeball wrote:
Yes Brad you're right, and we're wrong. You convinced us of the
coverup. Now what can we ever do about it?


Coverup, oversight or just plain old systematic banishment by the
mainstream status quo, as imposed upon all outsiders doesn't matter,
since either or all of the above clearly applies.

We can start off by focusing our best talents and limited resources
upon Venus.

This doesn't mean that we need to go there in person, even though with
a sufficient degree of applied technology would make the geothermally
toasty environment of Venus humanly doable as long at that effort
included a well insulated and thermally compensated rigid airship as
their interplanetary shuttle.

In the mean time, I'd like to see a Magellan-II as having roughly a 10
fold improved resolution, or better yet is just to send our existing
shuttle bay SAR imaging capability on its way, along with a few of
those robotic rigid airship probes that could cruise efficiently for
months on end, operating below those acidic clouds and reporting back
to the orbiting mothership, or perhaps even of something placed within
Venus L2 might be worth doing.
.. - Brad Guth
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Old February 24th 08, 03:11 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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On Feb 7, 6:25 am, eyeball wrote:
On Feb 7, 9:03 am, BradGuth admitted:http://www.seoconsultants.com/links/...no-clue-2x.gif


Where exactly are those USSR/Russian R&D prototype landers of
Lunokhod, in as much as such nifty AI/robotic fly-by-rocket expertise
that you'd think would have been somewhere recorded as performing
their R&D thing on film, if not being made available for local
demonstrations as is.

I guess they'd lost all of their documentation and of whatever spendy
R&D prototypes in the same manner that our NASA managed to loose all
700 boxes of our Apollo mission documentation, as well as we still
can't seem to demonstrate a viable prototype fly-by-rocket lander. In
fact, there's still an ongoing official NASA X-Prize for anyone that
can reliably accomplish such, of which has nothing to do with the
other Google/NOVA X-Prize of privately accomplishing the first one-way
fly-by-rocket lunar lander and robotic rover (I'm not at all sure a
prize of $300 million would be sufficient to cover the basic R&D and
deployment cost, much less if limited to $30 million, unless most
everything spendy was donated).
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