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Wha if first satellite was an amateur one?
Interesting what if - At some point in the first-satellite days, the
Pacific Rocket Society designed a three-stage launcher with a golf- ball sized satellite housding a micro transmitter. Dr. Roy Mackal, an engineer/biologist from U of Chicago who'd some work on sounding rockets, was one of the people involved. I believe this was just after Sputnik 1, but sources I have found so far are fragmentary. It seems they meant this as a serious exercise but presumably could not find the money to build it. What if the world's first satellite had been private? Or, after Sputnik, the first satellite from the US was private? There would have been an awful lot of egg on the faces of high-ranking folks. Matt Bille |
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Wha if first satellite was an amateur one?
On Jun 19, 2:10*pm, Matt wrote:
Interesting what if - *At some point in the first-satellite days, the Pacific Rocket Society designed a three-stage launcher with a golf- ball sized satellite housding a micro transmitter. *Dr. Roy Mackal, an engineer/biologist from U of Chicago who'd some work on sounding rockets, was one of the people involved. *I believe this was just after Sputnik 1, but sources I have found so far are fragmentary. *It seems they meant this as a serious exercise but presumably could not find the money to build it. What if the world's first satellite had been private? *Or, after Sputnik, the first satellite from the US was private? There would have been an awful lot of egg on the faces of high-ranking folks. Matt Bille as a alternative it might have been far better for the world. theres a private group wanting to launch the first private sat to scan for earth crossing asteroids |
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Wha if first satellite was an amateur one?
In Matt writes:
Interesting what if - At some point in the first-satellite days, the Pacific Rocket Society designed a three-stage launcher with a golf- ball sized satellite housding a micro transmitter. Dr. Roy Mackal, an engineer/biologist from U of Chicago who'd some work on sounding rockets, was one of the people involved. I believe this was just after Sputnik 1, but sources I have found so far are fragmentary. It seems they meant this as a serious exercise but presumably could not find the money to build it. What if the world's first satellite had been private? Or, after Sputnik, the first satellite from the US was private? There would have been an awful lot of egg on the faces of high-ranking folks. I have wanted to give this proper attention, but the past month has been overwhelming for me with things like moving and marrying and honeymooning, so I'm just barely able to (I hope) resurrect this really fascinating idea for some substantive discussion. Granting the idea that the Pacific Rocket Society finds the money, time, organization, and luck to get a golf ball launched ... well, nobody at Project Vanguard is going to be too happy, but it seems to be the historic fate for Vanguard to be none too happy. If the launch is before Sputnik 1, it's general good news for the United States, at least as a public relations affair, and it ought to drain much of the (presumed; has it ever been documented?) prestige gain to the Soviet Union trusting that Sputnik goes as it did in our timeline. ``Look at that, the whole might of the Soviet Union was able to do what a group of amateurs working from America did'', that sort of thing. But the comparable sizes, and the (presumed) Soviet ability to keep launching while (I imagine) the amateurs wouldn't would make the Soviets look potentially scarier. It doesn't seem like it would alter the Sputnik Panic much, though, since the basic idea that Soviets could launch satellites and thus also ICBM's wouldn't be changed. Eisenhower might be able to argue more compellingly that this isn't that big a deal if there's successes on record for any American anything being launched, even if it is something that makes Vanguard look huge. A completely amateur satellite would seem to set the overflight precedent pretty well: no rational entity could object to *that* going overhead particularly in the face of Newtonian mechanics. One might make a case that privately-sponsored satellites could be treated as different things to government-sponsored ones, but then the overflight precedent seems --- to me, living decades after the events, and getting most of his understanding of this from pop histories that mention it as a one-line sentence somewhere in Chapter Two --- to be something both the Soviets and the Americans wanted established anyway. If the amateur satellite is launched after Sputnik 1, that's at least a symbolic load off of Vanguard. Come to it, that's a load off Vanguard in any case. Possibly in this case Von Braun and the Redstone team aren't called into action to put something up, and there's no Explorer 1 in any form that we'd recognize. It seems likely to me there'd still be the drive to organize some kind of NASA. But it'd probably be more heavily weighted toward non-Army resources, since the Redstone Arsenal wouldn't be needed as saviors of national pride. It probably would get placed into the organization --- I can't see the Vanguard project scaling up to the big new exciting stuff to be done in space after Sputnik 1, and the bigger rockets would be needed --- but it wouldn't have so much prestige and might even be dragged in kicking and screaming. Also it seems that an amateur satellite in this era would establish a pretty hard-to-refute argument against any big organized project: why not let Private Industry do it instead? That wouldn't fly if we needed, say, to get a man on the moon by the end of 1970, but just about every other project would have to fight off the claim that it just needs to find the right space enthusiast club, even if none could possibly launch anything doing the desired goal. This seems likely to kill a number of small-but-worthwhile satellite projects. On the other hand, *having* the success would make it politically or organizationally thinkable to try building small-but-worthwhile projects around amateur clubs. I'd expect most of those to get squashed in the need for funding and facilities by the top-tier projects like manned capsules and Mars probes, but the fantasy that everything could be done by rocket societies would be a long-running one among space-enthusiast circles. It's a neat idea. I want to have some better thoughts about it. -- http://nebusresearch.wordpress.com/ Joseph Nebus Current Entry: Reading the Comics, July 14, 2012 http://wp.me/p1RYhY-hE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Wha if first satellite was an amateur one?
Joeseph, thanks for the thoughts. Will have to develop this further some day...
Matt Bille author, The First Space Race |
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