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  #11  
Old March 30th 11, 06:36 AM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Mar 29, 8:36*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 29, 7:14*pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Mar 29, 6:45*pm, bob haller wrote:


On Mar 29, 6:36*pm, Brian Thorn wrote:


On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:56:29 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:


Consumers worldwide will avoid buying japanes made goods from japan
for fear they may be buying radioactive merchandise. Even if all
expoorts are tested sales will be poor


Most people don't know what's Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Taiwanese,
etc. anymore.


Brian


this will bring country of origin to big note


What a bunch of nonsense over a non-crisis. *The long term
consequences will be nearly zero. *Do some reading before you guys
post such BS.


I challenge your statement.

Long term issues

Customers acceptance of products from a area thats radioactive
espically with pluntonium. people will fear they are getting a glow in
the dark whatever.

higher cancer rates worldwide, if they go up after this lawyers will
win big time suing tokyo power and the country for allowing whats
clearly a unsafe plant

Japans nuke accident clean up costs, these will go on forever

Short and long term costs for japan and the world to close unsafe nuke
plants or those in danger areas, note thats most of the plants
worldwide

Long term added costs to put all spent cores in dry cask storage
quickly and get those cores away from operating plants, where their in
danger if the plant malfunctions.or attacks by terrorists

long term storage issues for nuke waste, no one will want it where
they are. Yucca mountain is a great example of not in my backyard,
although there are other issues too.

Effects to GE for building a cheap plant that failed to take into
account known safety issues. Like designing for a 18 foot sunami when
historical info indicated one twice the height was possible. It will
cost too much to build for that severity this will be fine..... bad
design decision

Now if the plant fully melts down all of these and far more

Americans will likely be encouraged or ordered to remain indoors for a
week or more.Think improvised fallout shelters.

There will be widespread panic lawness stick ups, runs on stores
hoarding traffic jams as people try to get to areas believed safer.

I hope none of this occurs but some certinally will.

Incidently news just reported 2 japanese workers got drenched with
radioactive water today. Sooner or later that plant will be entomed


Long term to most of these bogus/ghost contributors is meaningless as
long as they don't have to look at or smell rotting human flesh.
Apparently human biological mutations via radiation don't exist for
those public funded and/or covering for some faith-based cult/cabal
like their Skull and Bones that's Rothschild approved and funded.

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Old March 30th 11, 12:40 PM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
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If you're going to the trouble to move them out via sea barge, then
"sail" them out over the nearby Marianas Trench and just sink the barge.

Dave



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Old March 30th 11, 02:03 PM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
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On Mar 30, 7:40*am, David Spain wrote:
If you're going to the trouble to move them out via sea barge, then
"sail" them out over the nearby Marianas Trench and just sink the barge.

Dave


moving a leaking highly radioactive containment is goig to be
somewhere between difficult to impossible, no doubt closest to
imossible
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Old March 30th 11, 09:29 PM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Mar 30, 6:03*am, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 30, 7:40*am, David Spain wrote:

If you're going to the trouble to move them out via sea barge, then
"sail" them out over the nearby Marianas Trench and just sink the barge..


Dave


moving a leaking highly radioactive containment is goig to be
somewhere between difficult to impossible, no doubt closest to
imossible


Sad but true, it's going from seriously bad to worse. And to think
that their opera fat lady hasn't even started to sing the closing
number.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...uclear-reactor

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Old March 31st 11, 10:34 AM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
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Default Solutions to the Japanese nuclear crisis?

I think the first thing is change the decision maker because Japanese
or Asians are not good at crisis management. They delay and lie.

Creative solution can solve the problem by some one with guts not
greed.

I just worry about hesitation and greed that lead mankind to the end
of the world if the plant continue damaging the sea and all fishes
contaminated after weeks of radiation.

Fishes swim across the ocean and will contaminate other organism and
finally no foods for us. Shortage of food will finally leads to war.

Using Robots to work can be safer and a water pipe line system by
passing the heating core and leads to cooling pool can be temporarily
a solution.

cwwinson
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Old March 31st 11, 11:48 AM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Mar 31, 2:34*am, winno wrote:
I think the first thing is change the decision maker because Japanese
or Asians are not good at crisis management. They delay and lie.

Creative solution can solve the problem by some one with guts not
greed.

I just worry about hesitation and greed that lead mankind to the end
of the world if the plant continue damaging the sea and all fishes
contaminated after weeks of radiation.

Fishes swim across the ocean and will contaminate other organism and
finally no foods for us. Shortage of food will finally leads to war.

Using Robots to *work can be safer and a water pipe line system by
passing the heating core and leads to cooling pool can be temporarily
a solution.

cwwinson


It has obviously been a whole lot worse off than reported from the
very get-go. At this point it’s a no-win kind of situation, of
happenstance damage-control and taking the least evil path.

“Dangerous Levels of Radioactive Isotope Found 25 Miles From Nuclear
Plant”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/wo...an.html?src=mv

Perhaps if there were basic IR images of each reactor (easily
obtained via ground or helicopter), they'd show us petty much exactly
what the reactor vessel and spent-fuel situation is at each unit.
Since those IR images are not being made available, it must be
considerably worse then we're being told. (same reason or
dysfunctional logic of obfuscation as to why portable deployed geiger
counters that would have given us live readings posted directly to the
internet, as such also haven’t been allowed, means it’s much worse
than reported)

"Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...uclear-reactor
Reactor No.2 is in terminal meltdown. No objective evidence (not
even IR imaging) to suggest that No.3 isn’t headed down the same path
of no return, along with No.1 and even the spent fuel of No.4 and all
others soon to follow the same path of no return.

Perhaps what’s needed is more like a few dozen local pipe welders/
cutters that could make those massive reactor vessels and their spent
fuel cores ready for towing, using mile long cables and powerful ships
could drag those nasty red-hot glowing things right off their
foundations, over and through whatever else is in their way, and out
to sea.

So, at worst we’re talking about knowingly sacrificing a few dozen
brave souls in order to save millions, and as bad or immoral as that
may sound, it seems a viable trade off. Humans (mostly lower caste
civilians and those that enlist) have been knowingly sacrificed for
far less, even mutually perpetrated and/or bogus wars started and
sustained as based entirely on bogus/false data and ulterior motives
of the rich and powerful, such as over greed, bully arrogance
(including government job security), ethnic cleansing and otherwise
just for your basic hoarding and global domination rights so as to
directly benefit the rich and powerful at the demise of as many lower
caste as it takes. So how is this multiple reactor meltdown situation
any different or less worthy of human sacrifice?

At roughly twice as bad as Chernobyl, and only getting worse:
“The international team, using a measure of radioactivity called the
becquerel, found as much as 3.7 million becquerels per square meter;
the standard used at Chernobyl was 1.48 million.” The options are at
best grim.

Perhaps the price for producing plutonium and other extremely valuable
elements has finally shown its true face that looks exactly like the
grim reaper, in that 90% of what we get to pay for nuclear energy is
what creating the seriously bad stuff demands, and this has been well
known from the very beginning, that us electrical energy consumers are
basically paying for everything that’s mostly intended for the mass
production of weapons grade plutonium, plus a few other elements that
are in high demand by those which we energy consumers and tax payers
have absolutely no control over.

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Old March 31st 11, 03:04 PM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
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On Mar 31, 6:48*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 31, 2:34*am, winno wrote:





I think the first thing is change the decision maker because Japanese
or Asians are not good at crisis management. They delay and lie.


Creative solution can solve the problem by some one with guts not
greed.


I just worry about hesitation and greed that lead mankind to the end
of the world if the plant continue damaging the sea and all fishes
contaminated after weeks of radiation.


Fishes swim across the ocean and will contaminate other organism and
finally no foods for us. Shortage of food will finally leads to war.


Using Robots to *work can be safer and a water pipe line system by
passing the heating core and leads to cooling pool can be temporarily
a solution.


cwwinson


It has obviously been a whole lot worse off than reported from the
very get-go. *At this point it’s a no-win kind of situation, of
happenstance damage-control and taking the least evil path.

“Dangerous Levels of Radioactive Isotope Found 25 Miles From Nuclear
Plant”
*http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/wo...an.html?src=mv

*Perhaps if there were basic IR images of each reactor (easily
obtained via ground or helicopter), they'd show us petty much exactly
what the reactor vessel and spent-fuel situation is at each unit.
Since those IR images are not being made available, it must be
considerably worse then we're being told. (same reason or
dysfunctional logic of obfuscation as to why portable deployed geiger
counters that would have given us live readings posted directly to the
internet, as such also haven’t been allowed, means it’s much worse
than reported)

"Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/japan-lost-race-save-nucl...
*Reactor No.2 is in terminal meltdown. *No objective evidence (not
even IR imaging) to suggest that No.3 isn’t headed down the same path
of no return, along with No.1 and even the spent fuel of No.4 and all
others soon to follow the same path of no return.

Perhaps what’s needed is more like a few dozen local pipe welders/
cutters that could make those massive reactor vessels and their spent
fuel cores ready for towing, using mile long cables and powerful ships
could drag those nasty red-hot glowing things right off their
foundations, over and through whatever else is in their way, and out
to sea.

So, at worst we’re talking about knowingly sacrificing a few dozen
brave souls in order to save millions, and as bad or immoral as that
may sound, it seems a viable trade off. *Humans (mostly lower caste
civilians and those that enlist) have been knowingly sacrificed for
far less, even mutually perpetrated and/or bogus wars started and
sustained as based entirely on bogus/false data and ulterior motives
of the rich and powerful, such as over greed, bully arrogance
(including government job security), ethnic cleansing and otherwise
just for your basic hoarding and global domination rights so as to
directly benefit the rich and powerful at the demise of as many lower
caste as it takes. *So how is this multiple reactor meltdown situation
any different or less worthy of human sacrifice?

At roughly twice as bad as Chernobyl, and only getting worse:
“The international team, using a measure of radioactivity called the
becquerel, found as much as 3.7 million becquerels per square meter;
the standard used at Chernobyl was 1.48 million.” *The options are at
best grim.

Perhaps the price for producing plutonium and other extremely valuable
elements has finally shown its true face that looks exactly like the
grim reaper, in that 90% of what we get to pay for nuclear energy is
what creating the seriously bad stuff demands, and this has been well
known from the very beginning, that us electrical energy consumers are
basically paying for everything that’s mostly intended for the mass
production of weapons grade plutonium, plus a few other elements that
are in high demand by those which we energy consumers and tax payers
have absolutely no control over.

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Japan haas done their best to cover up what they could. Just yesterday
they finally admitted the reactors that were pumped with ocean water
are scrap.

Heck everyone knew that from the firsty salt water injection.

  #18  
Old March 31st 11, 03:13 PM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
Bob Haller
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On Mar 31, 10:04*am, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 31, 6:48*am, Brad Guth wrote:





On Mar 31, 2:34*am, winno wrote:


I think the first thing is change the decision maker because Japanese
or Asians are not good at crisis management. They delay and lie.


Creative solution can solve the problem by some one with guts not
greed.


I just worry about hesitation and greed that lead mankind to the end
of the world if the plant continue damaging the sea and all fishes
contaminated after weeks of radiation.


Fishes swim across the ocean and will contaminate other organism and
finally no foods for us. Shortage of food will finally leads to war.


Using Robots to *work can be safer and a water pipe line system by
passing the heating core and leads to cooling pool can be temporarily
a solution.


cwwinson


It has obviously been a whole lot worse off than reported from the
very get-go. *At this point it’s a no-win kind of situation, of
happenstance damage-control and taking the least evil path.


“Dangerous Levels of Radioactive Isotope Found 25 Miles From Nuclear
Plant”
*http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/wo...an.html?src=mv


*Perhaps if there were basic IR images of each reactor (easily
obtained via ground or helicopter), they'd show us petty much exactly
what the reactor vessel and spent-fuel situation is at each unit.
Since those IR images are not being made available, it must be
considerably worse then we're being told. (same reason or
dysfunctional logic of obfuscation as to why portable deployed geiger
counters that would have given us live readings posted directly to the
internet, as such also haven’t been allowed, means it’s much worse
than reported)


"Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/japan-lost-race-save-nucl...
*Reactor No.2 is in terminal meltdown. *No objective evidence (not
even IR imaging) to suggest that No.3 isn’t headed down the same path
of no return, along with No.1 and even the spent fuel of No.4 and all
others soon to follow the same path of no return.


Perhaps what’s needed is more like a few dozen local pipe welders/
cutters that could make those massive reactor vessels and their spent
fuel cores ready for towing, using mile long cables and powerful ships
could drag those nasty red-hot glowing things right off their
foundations, over and through whatever else is in their way, and out
to sea.


So, at worst we’re talking about knowingly sacrificing a few dozen
brave souls in order to save millions, and as bad or immoral as that
may sound, it seems a viable trade off. *Humans (mostly lower caste
civilians and those that enlist) have been knowingly sacrificed for
far less, even mutually perpetrated and/or bogus wars started and
sustained as based entirely on bogus/false data and ulterior motives
of the rich and powerful, such as over greed, bully arrogance
(including government job security), ethnic cleansing and otherwise
just for your basic hoarding and global domination rights so as to
directly benefit the rich and powerful at the demise of as many lower
caste as it takes. *So how is this multiple reactor meltdown situation
any different or less worthy of human sacrifice?


At roughly twice as bad as Chernobyl, and only getting worse:
“The international team, using a measure of radioactivity called the
becquerel, found as much as 3.7 million becquerels per square meter;
the standard used at Chernobyl was 1.48 million.” *The options are at
best grim.


Perhaps the price for producing plutonium and other extremely valuable
elements has finally shown its true face that looks exactly like the
grim reaper, in that 90% of what we get to pay for nuclear energy is
what creating the seriously bad stuff demands, and this has been well
known from the very beginning, that us electrical energy consumers are
basically paying for everything that’s mostly intended for the mass
production of weapons grade plutonium, plus a few other elements that
are in high demand by those which we energy consumers and tax payers
have absolutely no control over.


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Japan haas done their best to cover up what they could. Just yesterday
they finally admitted the reactors that were pumped with ocean water
are scrap.

Heck everyone knew that from the firsty salt water injection.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake
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Old March 31st 11, 03:36 PM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
Bob Haller
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On Mar 31, 10:13*am, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 31, 10:04*am, bob haller wrote:





On Mar 31, 6:48*am, Brad Guth wrote:


On Mar 31, 2:34*am, winno wrote:


I think the first thing is change the decision maker because Japanese
or Asians are not good at crisis management. They delay and lie.


Creative solution can solve the problem by some one with guts not
greed.


I just worry about hesitation and greed that lead mankind to the end
of the world if the plant continue damaging the sea and all fishes
contaminated after weeks of radiation.


Fishes swim across the ocean and will contaminate other organism and
finally no foods for us. Shortage of food will finally leads to war..


Using Robots to *work can be safer and a water pipe line system by
passing the heating core and leads to cooling pool can be temporarily
a solution.


cwwinson


It has obviously been a whole lot worse off than reported from the
very get-go. *At this point it’s a no-win kind of situation, of
happenstance damage-control and taking the least evil path.


“Dangerous Levels of Radioactive Isotope Found 25 Miles From Nuclear
Plant”
*http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/wo...an.html?src=mv


*Perhaps if there were basic IR images of each reactor (easily
obtained via ground or helicopter), they'd show us petty much exactly
what the reactor vessel and spent-fuel situation is at each unit.
Since those IR images are not being made available, it must be
considerably worse then we're being told. (same reason or
dysfunctional logic of obfuscation as to why portable deployed geiger
counters that would have given us live readings posted directly to the
internet, as such also haven’t been allowed, means it’s much worse
than reported)


"Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor"http://www.guardian..co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/japan-lost-race-save-nucl...
*Reactor No.2 is in terminal meltdown. *No objective evidence (not
even IR imaging) to suggest that No.3 isn’t headed down the same path
of no return, along with No.1 and even the spent fuel of No.4 and all
others soon to follow the same path of no return.


Perhaps what’s needed is more like a few dozen local pipe welders/
cutters that could make those massive reactor vessels and their spent
fuel cores ready for towing, using mile long cables and powerful ships
could drag those nasty red-hot glowing things right off their
foundations, over and through whatever else is in their way, and out
to sea.


So, at worst we’re talking about knowingly sacrificing a few dozen
brave souls in order to save millions, and as bad or immoral as that
may sound, it seems a viable trade off. *Humans (mostly lower caste
civilians and those that enlist) have been knowingly sacrificed for
far less, even mutually perpetrated and/or bogus wars started and
sustained as based entirely on bogus/false data and ulterior motives
of the rich and powerful, such as over greed, bully arrogance
(including government job security), ethnic cleansing and otherwise
just for your basic hoarding and global domination rights so as to
directly benefit the rich and powerful at the demise of as many lower
caste as it takes. *So how is this multiple reactor meltdown situation
any different or less worthy of human sacrifice?


At roughly twice as bad as Chernobyl, and only getting worse:
“The international team, using a measure of radioactivity called the
becquerel, found as much as 3.7 million becquerels per square meter;
the standard used at Chernobyl was 1.48 million.” *The options are at
best grim.


Perhaps the price for producing plutonium and other extremely valuable
elements has finally shown its true face that looks exactly like the
grim reaper, in that 90% of what we get to pay for nuclear energy is
what creating the seriously bad stuff demands, and this has been well
known from the very beginning, that us electrical energy consumers are
basically paying for everything that’s mostly intended for the mass
production of weapons grade plutonium, plus a few other elements that
are in high demand by those which we energy consumers and tax payers
have absolutely no control over.


*http://translate.google.com/#
*Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Japan haas done their best to cover up what they could. Just yesterday
they finally admitted the reactors that were pumped with ocean water
are scrap.


Heck everyone knew that from the firsty salt water injection.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_japan_earthquake- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


looks like entombment is coming
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss
  #20  
Old March 31st 11, 07:40 PM posted to sci.space.policy,alt.politics,sci.physics,sci.engr
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Solutions to the Japanese nuclear crisis? (Topic Rating *****)

On Mar 31, 7:04*am, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 31, 6:48*am, Brad Guth wrote:



On Mar 31, 2:34*am, winno wrote:


I think the first thing is change the decision maker because Japanese
or Asians are not good at crisis management. They delay and lie.


Creative solution can solve the problem by some one with guts not
greed.


I just worry about hesitation and greed that lead mankind to the end
of the world if the plant continue damaging the sea and all fishes
contaminated after weeks of radiation.


Fishes swim across the ocean and will contaminate other organism and
finally no foods for us. Shortage of food will finally leads to war.


Using Robots to *work can be safer and a water pipe line system by
passing the heating core and leads to cooling pool can be temporarily
a solution.


cwwinson


It has obviously been a whole lot worse off than reported from the
very get-go. *At this point it’s a no-win kind of situation, of
happenstance damage-control and taking the least evil path.


“Dangerous Levels of Radioactive Isotope Found 25 Miles From Nuclear
Plant”
*http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/wo...an.html?src=mv


*Perhaps if there were basic IR images of each reactor (easily
obtained via ground or helicopter), they'd show us petty much exactly
what the reactor vessel and spent-fuel situation is at each unit.
Since those IR images are not being made available, it must be
considerably worse then we're being told. (same reason or
dysfunctional logic of obfuscation as to why portable deployed geiger
counters that would have given us live readings posted directly to the
internet, as such also haven’t been allowed, means it’s much worse
than reported)


"Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor"http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/japan-lost-race-save-nucl...
*Reactor No.2 is in terminal meltdown. *No objective evidence (not
even IR imaging) to suggest that No.3 isn’t headed down the same path
of no return, along with No.1 and even the spent fuel of No.4 and all
others soon to follow the same path of no return.


Perhaps what’s needed is more like a few dozen local pipe welders/
cutters that could make those massive reactor vessels and their spent
fuel cores ready for towing, using mile long cables and powerful ships
could drag those nasty red-hot glowing things right off their
foundations, over and through whatever else is in their way, and out
to sea.


So, at worst we’re talking about knowingly sacrificing a few dozen
brave souls in order to save millions, and as bad or immoral as that
may sound, it seems a viable trade off. *Humans (mostly lower caste
civilians and those that enlist) have been knowingly sacrificed for
far less, even mutually perpetrated and/or bogus wars started and
sustained as based entirely on bogus/false data and ulterior motives
of the rich and powerful, such as over greed, bully arrogance
(including government job security), ethnic cleansing and otherwise
just for your basic hoarding and global domination rights so as to
directly benefit the rich and powerful at the demise of as many lower
caste as it takes. *So how is this multiple reactor meltdown situation
any different or less worthy of human sacrifice?


At roughly twice as bad as Chernobyl, and only getting worse:
“The international team, using a measure of radioactivity called the
becquerel, found as much as 3.7 million becquerels per square meter;
the standard used at Chernobyl was 1.48 million.” *The options are at
best grim.


Perhaps the price for producing plutonium and other extremely valuable
elements has finally shown its true face that looks exactly like the
grim reaper, in that 90% of what we get to pay for nuclear energy is
what creating the seriously bad stuff demands, and this has been well
known from the very beginning, that us electrical energy consumers are
basically paying for everything that’s mostly intended for the mass
production of weapons grade plutonium, plus a few other elements that
are in high demand by those which we energy consumers and tax payers
have absolutely no control over.


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Japan haas done their best to cover up what they could. Just yesterday
they finally admitted the reactors that were pumped with ocean water
are scrap.

Heck everyone knew that from the firsty salt water injection.


Exactly, although most of the primary reactor vessel and its plumbing
isn't trashed unless that seawater is turned into superheated steam
that's moving at great velocity and thus eroding and/or corroding
everything in its path.
 




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