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Old January 19th 07, 07:30 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,rec.org.mensa
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NASA's plan to establish a permanent Moon Base on the Moon's South Pole
is proof that we are in Outer Space to stay. I wonder if they will
have 'Moon Women' to make the layover a bit more satisfactory.


In purple wigs and silver miniskirts, no doubt.

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Old January 20th 07, 12:43 AM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,rec.org.mensa
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Mike Combs wrote:
"tomcat" wrote in message
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NASA's plan to establish a permanent Moon Base on the Moon's South Pole
is proof that we are in Outer Space to stay. I wonder if they will
have 'Moon Women' to make the layover a bit more satisfactory.



In purple wigs and silver miniskirts, no doubt.


And statues of Kirk looking important.



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Old January 22nd 07, 07:44 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,rec.org.mensa
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"Mike Combs" wrote in message
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"tomcat" wrote in message
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NASA's plan to establish a permanent Moon Base on the Moon's South Pole
is proof that we are in Outer Space to stay. I wonder if they will
have 'Moon Women' to make the layover a bit more satisfactory.


In purple wigs and silver miniskirts, no doubt.


Actually, on having another look, I have to modify this. They only wore the
miniskirts while off duty. While on, it was revealingly-snug silver tights.

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Old January 22nd 07, 09:05 PM posted to sci.space.shuttle,sci.space.policy,rec.org.mensa
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Pat Flannery wrote:
Ian Woollard wrote:

And the insulation needed on large hydrogen tanks doesn't scale
up with increased size, so the vehicle may well be more efficients.



In fact, if you can figure out a way to tank it up within a couple of
minutes before takeoff, it may not need much insulation at all; since
it's going to be able to reenter the atmosphere its exterior will be
insulated already, and the total flight time from takeoff till it's out
of the atmosphere will only be a few minutes.
If you really wanted to cutback on insulation while at the same time
increasing the payload to orbit, then the thing to do would be to
piggyback it on a large aircraft and only fuel it at high altitude to
prevent ice build-up on its exterior.
This has been looked at by others designing reusable orbital vehicles.

Or you leave the insulation behind at launch. The shuttle ET starts to
do that, but not intentionally.

Picture the new Ares V launcher, in a giant condom, sponsored by London
Rubber Company. Just before launch, a needle is used to pierce the
condom which slides off taking all the ice with it.

Apollo on viagra!

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Old January 23rd 07, 04:27 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.shuttle,rec.org.mensa
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Picture the new Ares V launcher, in a giant condom, sponsored by London
Rubber Company. Just before launch, a needle is used to pierce the
condom which slides off taking all the ice with it.

Apollo on viagra!


I've asked, and apparently they haven't a clue as to how many tonnes of
their GLOW was involved with their nearly 30% inert package to start
with.

Oddly today, the very best of a highly composite rocket with hardly half
the inert mass needs all of 80:1 just for accomplishing GSO.

Aparently with merely a 60:1 ratio of rocket/payload, as Apollo mission
intended, whereas a few extra tonnes of whatever ice doesn't matter.
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