Insane global warmers want to do the equivalent of vocanic eruptions, poison the atmosphere with sulfur dioxide

On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:19:38 -0800 (PST), wrote:

However it turns out the big, mature trees remove increasingly larger amounts of CO2 the bigger they get.

Irrelevant to me. I don't cut down big mature trees for firewood. I
take standing dead aspen and mistletoe infected ponderosa. This thins
the forest, allowing the remaining trees to thrive. It's healthy usage
and is part of the carbon cycle. It's appropriate to my own local
environment, which is an indicator that things are being done right.

On Saturday, 28 February 2015 06:15:09 UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:

Irrelevant to me. I don't cut down big mature trees for firewood. I
take standing dead aspen and mistletoe infected ponderosa. This thins
the forest, allowing the remaining trees to thrive. It's healthy usage
and is part of the carbon cycle. It's appropriate to my own local
environment, which is an indicator that things are being done right.

Local collection of firewood would seem the absolutely ideal, low climate impact form of home heating in rural situations with sparse housing. Except, for the soot particles it generates indoors and out. Plus the smoke which plagues countless neighbours and neighbourhoods. The subject of noise from poorly silenced chainsaws used for many hours every day of the year. Plus the tractor-powered, log splitters used in completely innappropriate, built-up areas is quite another, but intimately related problem.

Now factor in all those unwilling to pay for properly dried, prepared logs from professionally organised forestry outlets. There are many who prefer to buy and burn [both are illegal] industrial and demolition waste to save a few more Kroner for more beer and to afford to run several more cars.

Welcome to Denmark. Where countless neighbours suffer the effects of stinking smoke and endless noise [both indoors and out] of cut-price woodburning even in the middle of major cities. Not to mention the misery of living with sociopathically selfish neighbours and completely pointless environmental laws and completely toothless, local "environmental" authorities.

More people move home in Denmark because of neighbour's activities than for any other reason. Tens of thousands of rural homes are empty and completely unsaleable, for years on end, because of neighbour's activities. There is even a call to demolish rural homes to avoid a rural housing market crash. Or even for them to be sold cheaply to immigrants. Whom, it seems, will have no natural, nor legal rights, to breathe clean air. Nor to enjoy the peace and quiet of the [wood and waste burning] Danish countryside. cough-cough-cough-cough-cough-cough-cough-cough-cough-cough-cough!

On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 12:15:09 AM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:19:38 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:

However it turns out the big, mature trees remove increasingly larger amounts of CO2 the bigger they get.

Irrelevant to me. I don't cut down big mature trees for firewood. I
take standing dead aspen and mistletoe infected ponderosa. This thins
the forest, allowing the remaining trees to thrive. It's healthy usage
and is part of the carbon cycle. It's appropriate to my own local
environment, which is an indicator that things are being done right.

Tautology.

On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 2:49:52 AM UTC-5, Chris.B wrote:

Local collection of firewood would seem the absolutely ideal, low climate impact form of home heating in rural situations with sparse housing.

The key words being "rural" and "sparse." Yet a wood-burning, rural-dwelling human who partakes heavily of products and services that depend on an industrial infrastructure can hardly call himself green.

http://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/dead_trees_have_value_too

The devil is in the details.

Sparse housing implies fewer humans. For comparison, the current fertility rate of the average Bangladeshi woman is 2.2, whereas the fertility rate for Tipper Gore was 4.0.

see: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 23:49:51 -0800 (PST), "Chris.B"
wrote:

Local collection of firewood would seem the absolutely ideal, low climate impact form of home heating in rural situations with sparse housing. Except, for the soot particles it generates indoors and out. Plus the smoke which plagues countless neighbours and neighbourhoods. The subject of noise from poorly silenced chainsaws used for many hours every day of the year. Plus the tractor-powered, log splitters used in completely innappropriate, built-up areas is quite another, but intimately related problem.

Indeed. The best solution to any problem is likely to depend on local
circumstances. We are very rural, and wood fires are nearly ideal
(modern stoves, with catalytic converters, release remarkably little
in the way of pollutants, although here, it wouldn't really matter
given the extremely low housing density). But most cities have laws
preventing the burning of wood for heat, and for good reason.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:14:05 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 12:15:09 AM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:19:38 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:

However it turns out the big, mature trees remove increasingly larger amounts of CO2 the bigger they get.

Irrelevant to me. I don't cut down big mature trees for firewood. I
take standing dead aspen and mistletoe infected ponderosa. This thins
the forest, allowing the remaining trees to thrive. It's healthy usage
and is part of the carbon cycle. It's appropriate to my own local
environment, which is an indicator that things are being done right.

Tautology.

Oh look. Another word he doesn't know how to use in a sentence.

On Saturday, 28 February 2015 17:06:20 UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:14:05 -0800 (PST), wrote:.

Tautology.

Oh look. Another word he doesn't know how to use in a sentence.

Tautology: The study of tightness of Snell's purse strings.

A purse: A rather small, secure bag in which Snell keeps his manners, his brain, his disposable wealth and [allegedly] his heart.
[Usually worn concealed to avoid any chance of detection.]

On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 11:06:20 AM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:14:05 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:

On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 12:15:09 AM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:19:38 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:

However it turns out the big, mature trees remove increasingly larger amounts of CO2 the bigger they get.

Irrelevant to me. I don't cut down big mature trees for firewood. I
take standing dead aspen and mistletoe infected ponderosa. This thins
the forest, allowing the remaining trees to thrive. It's healthy usage
and is part of the carbon cycle. It's appropriate to my own local
environment, which is an indicator that things are being done right.

Tautology.

Oh look. Another word he doesn't know how to use in a sentence.

peterson wrote:

"It's appropriate to my own local
environment, which is an indicator that things are being done right."

"Appropriate" and "being done right" mean the same thing, therefore your statement was a tautology.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tautology

"a statement in which you repeat a word, idea, etc., in a way that is not necessary"

On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 5:29:42 AM UTC-5, Chris.B wrote:
On Saturday, 28 February 2015 17:06:20 UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:14:05 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:.

Tautology.

Oh look. Another word he doesn't know how to use in a sentence.

Tautology: The study of tightness of Snell's purse strings.

A purse: A rather small, secure bag in which Snell keeps his manners, his brain, his disposable wealth and [allegedly] his heart.
[Usually worn concealed to avoid any chance of detection.]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tautology

Now, did you have something constructive to add or have you a "vendetta?"

On Sunday, 1 March 2015 15:12:32 UTC+1, wrote:

Now, did you have something constructive to add or have you a "vendetta?"

Always the Napoleon. Never the scullery maid.

Paranoia: An exaggerated sense of self importance regarding the perceived danger to one's ego.