Cosmos series

Having watched all episodes up to now of the Cosmos series, it is interesting how well Tyson can explain complex concepts in layman terms. He is also treading on dangerous territory.

Last night's episode was quite interesting, tying the quest for the age of the universe to the battle over lead in the environment. It was interesting because he definitely portrayed the scientist as the good guy against the moneyed interests who would be hurt by a ban of lead in gasoline, paint and a myriad of other products.

He also pointed out that the present battle over climate change and CO2 in the atmosphere has parallels with the lead battles of the past.

On top of that, he has produced consternation with his billion year old earth and evolution - all topics touched on in last night's episode. Where will it all end??

Uncadoodles

On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:25:39 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:
Having watched all episodes up to now of the Cosmos series, it is interesting how well Tyson can explain complex concepts in layman terms. He is also treading on dangerous territory.



Last night's episode was quite interesting, tying the quest for the age of the universe to the battle over lead in the environment. It was interesting because he definitely portrayed the scientist as the good guy against the moneyed interests who would be hurt by a ban of lead in gasoline, paint and a myriad of other products.



He also pointed out that the present battle over climate change and CO2 in the atmosphere has parallels with the lead battles of the past.



On top of that, he has produced consternation with his billion year old earth and evolution - all topics touched on in last night's episode. Where will it all end??



Uncadoodles

A cheap cartoon show aimed at the lowest of the low. Global warming B.S. propaganda included.

On Monday, May 5, 2014 9:54:25 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:
On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:25:39 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Having watched all episodes up to now of the Cosmos series, it is interesting how well Tyson can explain complex concepts in layman terms. He is also treading on dangerous territory.







Last night's episode was quite interesting, tying the quest for the age of the universe to the battle over lead in the environment. It was interesting because he definitely portrayed the scientist as the good guy against the moneyed interests who would be hurt by a ban of lead in gasoline, paint and a myriad of other products.







He also pointed out that the present battle over climate change and CO2 in the atmosphere has parallels with the lead battles of the past.







On top of that, he has produced consternation with his billion year old earth and evolution - all topics touched on in last night's episode. Where will it all end??







Uncadoodles



A cheap cartoon show aimed at the lowest of the low. Global warming B.S. propaganda included.

Lead is a powerful neurotoxin, especially bad for children. Why would you not want to eliminate this from the environment??

Uncadoodles

On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:14:23 AM UTC+1, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Lead is a powerful neurotoxin, especially bad for children.

Children are being railroaded by empiricists into scaling up cigarette smoking and lead content as individual pollutants into a global feature although climate is strictly founded on principles where astronomy meshes with terrestrial sciences.

The same worthless nonsense that rotations fall out of step with 24 hour days thereby losing the basic planetary fact which explains daily temperature fluctuations is applied to global temperatures on a generalized scale and it should genuinely shock readers into action as this is really,really bad for children and everyone else.

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/JennyChen.shtml

It is not the fact that the Earth turns at a rate of 15 degrees per hour using the recognizable Lat/Long system,it is how the value is actually arrived at that appeals to those who use they interpretative faculties as opposed to the speculative agenda they are exposed to by the fiction generating machine of empiricism.

It is not that you lot got it wrong with a 'solar vs sidereal' script,it is that you cannot appreciate what is correct that sets you apart as a destructive and disruptive cult.

On 5/5/2014 10:25 PM, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Having watched all episodes up to now of the Cosmos series, it is interesting how well Tyson can explain complex concepts in layman terms. He is also treading on dangerous territory.

Last night's episode was quite interesting, tying the quest for the age of the universe to the battle over lead in the environment. It was interesting because he definitely portrayed the scientist as the good guy against the moneyed interests who would be hurt by a ban of lead in gasoline, paint and a myriad of other products.

He also pointed out that the present battle over climate change and CO2 in the atmosphere has parallels with the lead battles of the past.

On top of that, he has produced consternation with his billion year old earth and evolution - all topics touched on in last night's episode. Where will it all end??

Uncadoodles



I've not watched all the episodes yet (recorded them) but I have the
exact same feeling as you.

I wish there would be just the science and the not so thinly veiled (to
me) other ideas that the arises in his speaking.

On 5/6/2014 12:14 AM, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Monday, May 5, 2014 9:54:25 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:
On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:25:39 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Having watched all episodes up to now of the Cosmos series, it is interesting how well Tyson can explain complex concepts in layman terms. He is also treading on dangerous territory.







Last night's episode was quite interesting, tying the quest for the age of the universe to the battle over lead in the environment. It was interesting because he definitely portrayed the scientist as the good guy against the moneyed interests who would be hurt by a ban of lead in gasoline, paint and a myriad of other products.







He also pointed out that the present battle over climate change and CO2 in the atmosphere has parallels with the lead battles of the past.







On top of that, he has produced consternation with his billion year old earth and evolution - all topics touched on in last night's episode. Where will it all end??







Uncadoodles



A cheap cartoon show aimed at the lowest of the low. Global warming B.S. propaganda included.

Lead is a powerful neurotoxin, especially bad for children. Why would you not want to eliminate this from the environment??

Uncadoodles



Because I send a lot of it downrange on a regular basis. It's great
sport too !

Last time I checked, lead was already a part of our environment...

On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:02:05 AM UTC-6, AM wrote:

Last time I checked, lead was already a part of our environment...

So? Human technological use of lead vastly increases the amount that people are exposed to.

However, it must be admitted this drives up the cost of eyepieces.

John Savard

On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:00:39 AM UTC-6, AM wrote:

I wish there would be just the science and the not so thinly veiled (to
me) other ideas that the arises in his speaking.

Biased politics are bad, but scientific truth is always good, even when sinister forces have tried to create a phony controversy around it.

John Savard

Quadibloc (John Savard) wrote:
Biased politics are bad, but scientific truth is always good, even when
sinister forces have tried to create a phony controversy around it.

Very cleverly and ambiguously put, sir. :-)

--
Brian Tung
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On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:00:39 PM UTC+1, AM wrote:
On 5/5/2014 10:25 PM, Uncarollo2 wrote:



Having watched all episodes up to now of the Cosmos series, it is interesting how well Tyson can explain complex concepts in layman terms. He is also treading on dangerous territory.



Last night's episode was quite interesting, tying the quest for the age of the universe to the battle over lead in the environment. It was interesting because he definitely portrayed the scientist as the good guy against the moneyed interests who would be hurt by a ban of lead in gasoline, paint and a myriad of other products.



He also pointed out that the present battle over climate change and CO2 in the atmosphere has parallels with the lead battles of the past.



On top of that, he has produced consternation with his billion year old earth and evolution - all topics touched on in last night's episode. Where will it all end??



Uncadoodles







I've not watched all the episodes yet (recorded them) but I have the

exact same feeling as you.



I wish there would be just the science and the not so thinly veiled (to

me) other ideas that the arises in his speaking.

I watched an episode and I can't believe anyone in their right mind would fall for that empiricist junk propaganda -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPCG19K-AN8

Readers here in this forum have been exposed over a long period to the actual issues which surrounded the emergence of the motions of the Earth against a backdrop of astronomy which is based on predictions of astronomical events and whether the two mesh comfortably. The dunce can comfort themselves that the Church required an Earth centered universe however the courageous can look at the many topics which have intellectual heft and most of which have never been resolved,at least up to now.

The central issue of the Galileo affair was Galileo's attempt to make a very powerful political figure of the Pope look like a simpleton thereby betraying discussion the Pope had with Galileo on the technical difficulties of reconciling predictive astronomy with proof of the Earth's motions and very few venture into this arena -

"When the ordinary man hears that the Church told Galileo that he might teach Copernicanism as a hypothesis which saved all the celestial phenomena satisfactorily, but "not as being the truth," he laughs. But this was really how Ptolemaic astronomy had been taught! In its actual place in history it was not a casuistical quibble; it was the refusal (unjustified it may be) to allow the introduction of a new and momentous doctrine. It was not simply a new theory of the nature of the celestial movements that was feared, but a new theory of the nature of theory; namely, that, if a hypothesis saves all the appearances. It is identical with truth." Barfield 1957

There is a huge clash between the original reference system for the Earth's orbital motion which used the annual apparent motion of the stars behind the Sun as opposed to the reference system which was used at the time of Copernicus which factored the motion of the Sun through the zodiacal signs.

Even with 21st century graphics to split observations into apparent motions and their respective causes it is still an intricate affair yet none of you appear to be capable of handling issues which were valid topics of discussion when Copernicus outlined his scheme -

http://dbanach.com/copernicus-commentarilous.htm

This Cosmos thing is both anti-faith propaganda and indoctrinating empiricism with no Church around to promote anything close to the actual historical and technical details of discovery.