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Old June 8th 10, 10:48 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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Default Rename Space Solar Power to " Wireless Power Transmission"!

On 6/10/2010 6:09 PM, John M wrote:


The awesome potential of a 'global system of wireless power transmission'
should perk up the ears of almost anyone. Anyone that cares about almost
anything.


Even Tesla would approve, I'm sure of it!



Space-Based Solar Power As an Opportunity
for Strategic Security

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

"For the DoD specifically, beamed energy from space in quantities
greater than 5 MWe has the potential to be a disruptive game changer
on the battlefield. SBSP and its enabling wireless power transmission
technology could facilitate extremely flexible "energy on demand" for
combat units and installations across an entire theater, while
significantly
reducing dependence on vulnerable over-land fuel deliveries. SBSP
could also enable entirely new force structures and capabilities such
as ultra long-endurance airborne or terrestrial surveillance or combat
systems to include the individual soldier himself. More routinely, SBSP
could provide the ability to deliver rapid and sustainable humanitarian
energy to a disaster area or to a local population undergoing
nation-building activities. SBSP could also facilitate base "islanding"
such that each installation has the ability to operate independent of
vulnerable ground-based energy delivery infrastructures. In addition
to helping American and allied defense establishments remain relevant
over the entire 21st Century through more secure supply lines, perhaps
the greatest military benefit of SBSP is to lessen the chances of conflict
due to energy scarcity by providing access to a strategically secure
energy supply."
http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/library/nsso.htm


Then you have to lug around the rolled-up rectenna with you as your
force's position changes in time of combat.
If you are in a fixed position, you can use conventional diesel
generators to provide power, and not have to worry about the big
rectenna or solar power satellite being damaged by enemy action.
You could really be up the crick without a paddle if they took out a
satellite and your whole power supply suddenly died.
Back in the 1950's the Army actually came up with a completely
off-the-wall concept for using nuclear energy to power whole convoys of
vehicles. A lead vehicle would carry a portable nuclear reactor in it,
and wires would lead back to tanks and trucks that trailed it, they
themselves being powered by diesel-electric drive systems.
When on the move as a convoy, they would use electrical power sent to
them via the wires from the front reactor vehicle, and once on-position
generate their own electrical power via their diesel engines.
The plan was quickly dropped once it was realized that the destruction
of the lead reactor vehicle or the train of wiring that connected it to
the vehicles following it could leave the whole convoy deep in enemy
territory with insufficient diesel fuel to get back to friendly territory.
The solution was obvious; the convoy needed to carry enough diesel fuel
with it to both get into and out of enemy territory with no electrical
power from the reactor vehicle if necessary...at which point the reactor
vehicle became superfluous, and the vehicles could run on straight
diesel power with both a weight and complexity savings over the
diesel-electric drive.
I will say one thing for the plan though... it would take one mighty
brave Soviet soldier to shoot a vehicle with a nuclear reactor in it
with an RPG-7 and see what happened next. :-D

Pat
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Old June 8th 10, 07:10 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)[_1043_]
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Pat Flannery wrote:
I will say one thing for the plan though... it would take one mighty
brave Soviet soldier to shoot a vehicle with a nuclear reactor in it
with an RPG-7 and see what happened next. :-D


I don't think anyone ever accused Soviet soldiers of not having balls.


Pat


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Old June 9th 10, 09:10 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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Default Rename Space Solar Power to " Wireless Power Transmission"!

On 6/8/2010 10:10 AM, Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote:
I will say one thing for the plan though... it would take one mighty
brave Soviet soldier to shoot a vehicle with a nuclear reactor in it
with an RPG-7 and see what happened next. :-D


I don't think anyone ever accused Soviet soldiers of not having balls.


If I shot at that thing I would make sure I was upwind of it.
Knowing the Soviets, they would probably show the soldiers pictures of
the ting and tell them to destroy it if they saw one...neglecting to
mention that there was a reactor inside of it.

Pat
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Old June 9th 10, 03:41 PM posted to sci.space.policy
David Spain
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Default Rename Space Solar Power to " Wireless Power Transmission"!

John M wrote:


The awesome potential of a 'global system of wireless power transmission'
should perk up the ears of almost anyone. Anyone that cares about almost
anything.


Even Tesla would approve, I'm sure of it!


John you describe yourself primarily as 'an advocate'. I find this comment
extremely amusing consider the world is full of 'advocates' that for multiple
decades have been trying to prove a link between EM radiation from power lines
and cancer. And in the last decade several 'interest groups' have been
furiously involved in funding studies that attempt to prove a link between the
minuscule amount of EM radiation coming from a cell phone and cancer.

Now you advocate upping the ante by orders of magnitude. Good luck with that
one....

Dave
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Old June 9th 10, 05:35 PM posted to sci.space.policy
David Spain
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Default Rename Space Solar Power to " Wireless Power Transmission"!

Pat Flannery wrote:
On 6/9/2010 6:41 AM, David Spain wrote:

John you describe yourself primarily as 'an advocate'. I find this
comment
extremely amusing consider the world is full of 'advocates' that for
multiple decades have been trying to prove a link between EM radiation
from power lines and cancer.


The bees know:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_wguy/2...ch_wguy_tc2385


Bees should take a lesson from subway drivers when it comes to texting while
flying...

Dave

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Old June 9th 10, 08:27 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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Default Rename Space Solar Power to " Wireless Power Transmission"!

On 6/9/2010 6:41 AM, David Spain wrote:

John you describe yourself primarily as 'an advocate'. I find this comment
extremely amusing consider the world is full of 'advocates' that for
multiple decades have been trying to prove a link between EM radiation
from power lines and cancer.


The bees know:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_wguy/2...ch_wguy_tc2385

Pat
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Old June 11th 10, 03:09 AM posted to sci.space.policy
John M
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Default Rename Space Solar Power to " Wireless Power Transmission"!



The awesome potential of a 'global system of wireless power transmission'
should perk up the ears of almost anyone. Anyone that cares about almost
anything.


Even Tesla would approve, I'm sure of it!



Space-Based Solar Power As an Opportunity
for Strategic Security

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

"For the DoD specifically, beamed energy from space in quantities
greater than 5 MWe has the potential to be a disruptive game changer
on the battlefield. SBSP and its enabling wireless power transmission
technology could facilitate extremely flexible "energy on demand" for
combat units and installations across an entire theater, while significantly
reducing dependence on vulnerable over-land fuel deliveries. SBSP
could also enable entirely new force structures and capabilities such
as ultra long-endurance airborne or terrestrial surveillance or combat
systems to include the individual soldier himself. More routinely, SBSP
could provide the ability to deliver rapid and sustainable humanitarian
energy to a disaster area or to a local population undergoing
nation-building activities. SBSP could also facilitate base "islanding"
such that each installation has the ability to operate independent of
vulnerable ground-based energy delivery infrastructures. In addition
to helping American and allied defense establishments remain relevant
over the entire 21st Century through more secure supply lines, perhaps
the greatest military benefit of SBSP is to lessen the chances of conflict
due to energy scarcity by providing access to a strategically secure
energy supply."
http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/library/nsso.htm


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Old June 11th 10, 05:27 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Rename Space Solar Power to " Wireless Power Transmission"!

On Jun 8, 2:48*am, Pat Flannery wrote:
On 6/10/2010 6:09 PM, John M wrote:





The awesome potential of a 'global system of wireless power transmission'
should perk up the ears of almost anyone. Anyone that cares about almost
anything.


Even Tesla would approve, I'm sure of it!


Space-Based Solar Power As an Opportunity
for Strategic Security


EXECUTIVE SUMMARY


"For the DoD specifically, beamed energy from space in quantities
greater than 5 MWe has the potential to be a disruptive game changer
on the battlefield. SBSP and its enabling wireless power transmission
technology could facilitate extremely flexible "energy on demand" for
combat units and installations across an entire theater, while
significantly
reducing dependence on vulnerable over-land fuel deliveries. SBSP
could also enable entirely new force structures and capabilities such
as ultra long-endurance airborne or terrestrial surveillance or combat
systems to include the individual soldier himself. More routinely, SBSP
could provide the ability to deliver rapid and sustainable humanitarian
energy to a disaster area or to a local population undergoing
nation-building activities. SBSP could also facilitate base "islanding"
such that each installation has the ability to operate independent of
vulnerable ground-based energy delivery infrastructures. In addition
to helping American and allied defense establishments remain relevant
over the entire 21st Century through more secure supply lines, perhaps
the greatest military benefit of SBSP is to lessen the chances of conflict
due to energy scarcity by providing access to a strategically secure
energy supply."
http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/library/nsso.htm


Then you have to lug around the rolled-up rectenna with you as your
force's position changes in time of combat.
If you are in a fixed position, you can use conventional diesel
generators to provide power, and not have to worry about the big
rectenna or solar power satellite being damaged by enemy action.
You could really be up the crick without a paddle if they took out a
satellite and your whole power supply suddenly died.
Back in the 1950's the Army actually came up with a completely
off-the-wall concept for using nuclear energy to power whole convoys of
vehicles. A lead vehicle would carry a portable nuclear reactor in it,
and wires would lead back to tanks and trucks that trailed it, they
themselves being powered by diesel-electric drive systems.
When on the move as a convoy, they would use electrical power sent to
them via the wires from the front reactor vehicle, and once on-position
generate their own electrical power via their diesel engines.
The plan was quickly dropped once it was realized that the destruction
of the lead reactor vehicle or the train of wiring that connected it to
the vehicles following it could leave the whole convoy deep in enemy
territory with insufficient diesel fuel to get back to friendly territory..
The solution was obvious; the convoy needed to carry enough diesel fuel
with it to both get into and out of enemy territory with no electrical
power from the reactor vehicle if necessary...at which point the reactor
vehicle became superfluous, and the vehicles could run on straight
diesel power with both a weight and complexity savings over the
diesel-electric drive.
I will say one thing for the plan though... it would take one mighty
brave Soviet soldier to shoot a vehicle with a nuclear reactor in it
with an RPG-7 and see what happened next. :-D

Pat


Name it after Nikola Tesla, because unlike Einstein, Tesla alone
invented it.

~ BG
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Old June 11th 10, 05:32 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Rename Space Solar Power to " Wireless Power Transmission"!

On Jun 9, 12:27*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
On 6/9/2010 6:41 AM, David Spain wrote:

John you describe yourself primarily as 'an advocate'. I find this comment
extremely amusing consider the world is full of 'advocates' that for
multiple decades have been trying to prove a link between EM radiation
from power lines and cancer.


The bees know:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_wguy/2...uy/ytech_wguy_...

Pat


Bee wings are nearly quarter-wave dipole antenna at cell phone
frequencies. Go figure why they're not all dead.

~ BG
 




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