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Old October 1st 09, 10:43 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 30, 6:31*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Sep 29, 12:20*pm, BradGuth wrote:



It seems our weak force of gravity attraction to the Sirius star/solar
system is obviously so much greater than say icy Sedna, and yet others
here keep insisting that we're not in the least bit gravity tidal associated
to that impressive star system. *What gives?


Sirius and us(our solar system) are very much indeed inseparable, at
least according to those regular laws of physics pertaining to the
mainstream accepted notions of Newtonian gravity and orbital mechanics
that seems more than sufficient for everything else we’re told to
accept, and especially if little Sedna can be turned around at a tidal
radii of 1.459e14 m that’s worth merely 2.975e13 N, whereas Sirius at
8.6 light years and worth 1.417e17 N (20 thousand fold stronger tidal
radii), and to think that we’ve been gaining on this 3.5 solar mass of
Sirius by 7.6 km/sec, plus most likely and unavoidably accelerating
towards our next close cosmological encounter.


However, it’s pretty much all nothing but another mainstream infowar,
of media damage-control by way of a mainstream tactical disinformation
gauntlet of carefully orchestrated lies and conditional physics, plus
deceptions and systematic obfuscation is apparently what it’s all
about. *When I’ve merely expected of others to share information and
to otherwise constructively ponder and contribute to this topic and
many similar ones before, all we ever got at best was a stone cold
shoulder, and otherwise mostly negativity and banishment, as well as
from a certain racist and kosher bigotry spouting potty-mouth rabbi
none the less. *However, the laws of physics are seldom if ever
politically correct or otherwise faith-based, and as such they simply
do not lie, and even the best available science doesn’t support many
of those established mainstream notions of excluding anything and
everything that rocks a given faith-based boat.


Gravity Force of Attraction (orbital tidal radius)
*http://www.1728.com/gravity.htm
*http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/ca...alculator.html


The cosmic molecular cloud of what created Sirius, as being worth at
least 1.25e6 solar masses, while at a center to center distance of 100
ly and using our solar system mass of 2.05e30 kg for that same era, we
get the following results for 100 ly (9.46053e17 m), 50 ly (4.7303e17
m) and 10 ly (9.46053e16 m).
*2.05e30 kg *and *2.5e36 kg *at 100 ly = 3.819e20 Newtons
*2.05e30 kg *and *2.5e36 kg *at * 50 ly = 1.528e21 N
*2.05e30 kg *and *2.5e36 kg *at * 10 ly = 3.819e22 N


current (sun ~ earth) gravitational force of attraction:
*1.989e30 and 5.974e24 kg at 1.496e11 m = 3.541e22 N


current (sun ~ mars) gravitational force of attraction:
*1.989e30 and 6.418e23 kg at 2.2794e11 m = 1.639e21 N


current (sun ~ pluto) gravitational force of attraction:
*1.989e30 and 1.305e22 kg at 5.906e12 m = 4.964e16 N


current (solar system) ~ Sedna/average gravitational attraction:
*2.02e30 and 4.7e21 kg at 7.867e13 m = 1.023e14 N


current (solar system) ~ Sedna/aphelion gravitational attraction:
*2.02e30 and 4.7e21 kg at 1.459e14 m = 2.975e13 N


current (solar system) ~ Sirius gravitational force of attraction:
*2.02e30 and 6.9615e30 kg at 8.1365e16 m = 1.417e17 N


Not to further nitpick, however there’s also 2005-VX3 / damocloid
(asteroid) of 112 km diameter as perhaps worth at most 1.47e18 kg,
that’s hanging all the way out to 2275.5 AU (3.4e14 m) that’s worth
merely 1.71e9 N, and even it’s not going away from our solar system's
tidal radius. *That’s representing a Sirius/XV3 ratio of nearly 83e6:1
greater tidal radii hold on us, not to mention that we seem to be
headed back towards Sirius at 7.6 km/s and unavoidably accelerating,
exactly as any elliptical Newtonian orbital trek should.


Being that a molecular cloud that's worthy of perhaps at the very
least 1.25e6 solar masses is going to have a diameter of nearly 100
light years, as such I might suggest that we use the 50 ly parameter
for the adjusted distance from the core density of such a molecular
cloud, as for mutually binding into us at the weak gravity force of
1.528e21 N. *Of course by doubling that distance cuts this tidal
binding force of radial gravitational attraction down to a forth,
whereas even at 500 ly it’s still worthy of 1.528e19 N, and at the
1.25e7 solar masses brings that 500 ly distance right back up to being
worth 1.528e20 N.


The cosmic creation of the Sirius star/solar system was by no means
any small matter of a wussy little molecular cloud. *This was an
extremely large cloud and subsequent nearby stellar birthing event of
relatively recent times (250~300 MBP), and as such it would have been
something entirely visible to the naked human eyes of that era (not
that any intelligent human via Darwin or intelligent proto-design of
humans even existed at that time, although Ed Conrad’s “Man of Coal”
seems to be within that era), and as of most recently transforming the
red supergiant phase of Sirius B into a white dwarf required a
substantial helium flashover (slow nova) about as close as you can
safely get, if not a little too close.


By way of reading from what others claiming to know more than most
anyone else (must be Einstein clones), it seems they’d have no
problems with suggesting the 1e6:1 cosmic molecular cloud ratio of
having been worth 1.25e7 solar masses that created the Sirius star/
solar system, and if still using 2.05e30 kg mass for that of our solar
system of that same era results in yet another 10 fold increased force
of attraction for that same 50 ly distance, representing 1.528e22 N
(nearly half of the sun~earth attraction), and 99.9999% of this 1e6:1
molecular cloud that’s oddly nowhere to be found, by rights should
have greatly affected our solar system.


Try to remember that this wasn’t a one brief kind of a cosmic drive-by
shooting, but most likely worth at least a million years of persistent
gravity pull before that massive molecular cloud ever having cranked
out those impressive Sirius stars, and for at least another million
some odd years of having blown everything else (99.999% of that
molecular cloud) far away. *Once again, how can this kind of nearby
cosmic event and of such horrific original mass not have affected our
solar system?


This one about our being unavoidably attracted and tidal influenced
via the impressive Sirius star/solar system shouldn’t be so hard to
answer, but then our resident wizards seem rather unable, and/or
unwilling to share and share alike without involving a great deal of
their kosher mainstream damage-control of obfuscation and if need be
bloodshed.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


The ratio of 8.3e7:1 is how much greater our solar system remains
attracted to the existing Sirius star/solar system, than 2005-VX3 /
damocloid (asteroid) of 112 km diameter is attracted to our sun. *This
Sirius:XV3 ratio of 8.3e7:1 is just another Newtonian matter of fact
that you can take to the bank.

The Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll) are most likely still in
charge of what drives the global environment, as least to a much
greater extent than given credit by those of us in charge of what the
general public ever gets to learn about.


All that I'm suggesting at this point is that our solar system and
that of our frail terrestrial environment that's currently thawing us
out remains linked by tidal gravity forces and UV illumination to the
relatively massive Sirius star system, and otherwise we're unavoidably
affected by the 2e20N/sec of tidal forces associated with holding onto
that physically massive and otherwise dark moon of ours.

There's a slim chance that Earth ever belonged to Sirius B, though we
have a much greater odds of our moon/Selene and the planet Venus were
once part of that Sirius B solar system before it went nova (helium
flashover) and reverted down to that little white dwarf.

As further proof that I'm more often right than not, just have a look
at my
kosher shadows of rabbi Saul and his lovechild Hagar. As why
otherwise would they be trying so hard at applying their Zionist/Nazi
methods of topic/author stalking and bashings upon anyone that doesn't
agree with their version of the Old Testament and their subsequent
unpoliced faith-based policies?

~ BG
  #72  
Old October 4th 09, 11:27 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

Not to continually nitpick, however there’s also 2005-VX3 / damocloid
(asteroid) of 112 km diameter as perhaps worth at most 1.47e18 kg,
that’s hanging all the way out to 2275.5 AU (3.4e14 m) that’s worth
merely 1.71e9 N, and even it’s not going away from our solar system's
tidal radius grip. That’s representing a Sirius/XV3 ratio of nearly
83e6:1 greater tidal radii hold on us, not to mention that we seem to
be headed back towards Sirius at 7.6 km/s and unavoidably
accelerating, exactly as any elliptical Newtonian orbital trek should.

That interstellar Newtonian tidal association that's 8.3e7:1 greater
than represented by the 2005-VX3 / damocloid(asteroid), as such is not
hardly insignificant.

There's simply no reasonable way of others arguing that our solar
system has not been dominated by that nearby Sirius star/solar system.

~ BG


On Sep 21, 7:02*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:


Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Even though gravity is an extremely weak force, when there's enough
matter associated within a given star/solar system to affect another
star/solar system, and it's especially so if such mass is sufficiently
nearby and already heading towards one another, as is the case with us
and Sirius.

Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
  #73  
Old October 5th 09, 01:16 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Oct 4, 3:27*pm, BradGuth wrote:
Not to continually nitpick, however there’s also 2005-VX3 / damocloid
(asteroid) of 112 km diameter as perhaps worth at most 1.47e18 kg,
that’s hanging all the way out to 2275.5 AU (3.4e14 m) that’s worth
merely 1.71e9 N, and even it’s not going away from our solar system's
tidal radius grip. *That’s representing a Sirius/XV3 ratio of nearly
83e6:1 greater tidal radii hold on us, not to mention that we seem to
be headed back towards Sirius at 7.6 km/s and unavoidably
accelerating, exactly as any elliptical Newtonian orbital trek should.

That interstellar Newtonian tidal association that's 8.3e7:1 greater force
than represented by the 2005-VX3 / damocloid(asteroid), as such is not
hardly insignificant.

There's simply no reasonable way of others arguing that our solar
system has not been dominated by that nearby Sirius star/solar system.

*~ BG

On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:


Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Even though gravity is an extremely weak force, when there's enough
matter associated within a given star/solar system to affect another
star/solar system, and it's especially so if such mass is sufficiently
nearby and already heading towards one another, as the case with us
and Sirius.

*Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


The Cosmological Ice Ages are pretty much done for, at least as far as
any expanding polar ice caps taking us along with our physically dark
moon into yet another global deep freeze. However, keep asking
yourself, why the Jewish mindset (as represented and otherwise
defended by rabbi Saul Levy) is always so gosh darn naysay/opposed to
those pesky regular laws of Newtonian and orbital physics.

Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
http://www.alaskapublishing.com
http://www.guarddogbooks.com
  #74  
Old October 5th 09, 06:34 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 21,544
Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

Not to continually nitpick, however there’s also 2005-VX3/damocloid
(asteroid) of 112 km diameter as perhaps worth at most 1.47e18 kg,
that’s hanging all the way out to 2275.5 AU (3.4e14 m) that’s worth
merely 1.71e9 N, and even it’s not going away from our solar system's
tidal radius grip. Now that’s representing a Sirius/XV3 ratio of
nearly 8.3e7:1 greater tidal radii hold on us, not to mention that we
seem to be headed back towards Sirius at 7.6 km/s and unavoidably
accelerating, exactly as any elliptical Newtonian orbital trek should.

That interstellar Newtonian tidal association that's 8.3e7:1 greater force
than represented by the 2005-VX3 / damocloid(asteroid), as such is not
hardly insignificant. There's simply no reasonable way of others arguing
that our solar system has not been dominated by that nearby Sirius
star/solar system.
~ BG


On Aug 24, 11:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


On Jul 6, 6:55 am, BradGuth wrote:
Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Even though gravity is an extremely weak force, when there's enough
matter associated within a given star/solar system to affect another
star/solar system, and it's especially so if such mass is sufficiently
nearby and already heading towards one another, as the case with us
and Sirius, not to mention when that star system was worth 12.5 Ms,
and before then a vast molecular cloud worth 12.5e6 Ms.


Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Those "Cosmological Ice Ages" are pretty much done for, at least as
far as any expanding polar ice caps taking us along with our
physically dark moon into yet another global deep freeze. However,
keep asking yourself, why the Jewish mindset (as having been
officially represented and otherwise defended by rabbi Saul Levy) is
always so gosh darn naysay/opposed to those pesky regular laws of
Newtonian and orbital physics (as though there's something anti-
semitic going on).

I can't always speak on behalf of Henry Kroll, but for the most part
he has been on the investigative track of deductively understanding
our environment and otherwise first hand experiencing the local
changes in Alaska weather, and of course noticing the progressive loss
of slow ice (glaciers) over his extensive Alaskan lifetime. Kroll is
also better informed than most about the various species of humans
that seemed to have dropped into our world out of nowhere, and either
having failed to survive or simply vanished just as mysteriously.
Kroll is also a for real honest to God survivalist, and not just
providing for himself but for an entire family plus relatives and
multiple friends (some of which might even owe their lives to the
honest efforts of Henry), and you've probably eaten some of the fish
caught by the Kroll clan, though you should also try their Alaskan
moose and bear meat (some of which came right off their front porch).

Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
http://www.alaskapublishing.com
http://www.guarddogbooks.com

  #75  
Old October 6th 09, 05:22 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Oct 5, 10:34*am, BradGuth wrote:
Not to continually nitpick, however there’s also 2005-VX3/damocloid
(asteroid) of 112 km diameter as perhaps worth at most 1.47e18 kg,
that’s hanging all the way out to 2275.5 AU (3.4e14 m) that’s worth
merely 1.71e9 N, and even it’s not going away from our solar system's
tidal radius grip. *Now that’s representing a Sirius/XV3 ratio of
nearly 8.3e7:1 greater tidal radii hold on us, not to mention that we
seem to be headed back towards Sirius at 7.6 km/s and unavoidably
accelerating, exactly as any elliptical Newtonian orbital trek should.



That interstellar Newtonian tidal association that's 8.3e7:1 greater force
than represented by the 2005-VX3 / damocloid(asteroid), as such is not
hardly insignificant. * There's simply no reasonable way of others arguing
that our solar system has not been dominated by that nearby Sirius
star/solar system.
*~ BG
On Aug 24, 11:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)
All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.
In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.
On Jul 6, 6:55 am, BradGuth wrote:
Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.
In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.
First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.
In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.
Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.
Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html
The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html
Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.

  #76  
Old October 15th 09, 02:54 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 21, 7:02*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:



Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Even though gravity is an extremely weak force, when there's enough
matter associated with a given star/solar system to place an affect
another nearby star/solar system, and it's especially so if such mass
is as nearby as our solar system and Sirius as already heading
elliptically towards one another, as is the case with us and Sirius.


Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll)

The example ratio of 8.3e7:1 is how much greater our solar system
remains via Newtonian force, as having been attracted to the existing
Sirius star/solar system, than otherwise associated with 2005-VX3
being the item (damocloid/asteroid) of 112 km diameter that’s forever
attracted to our sun. This Sirius:XV3 ratio of 8.3e7:1 is just
another Newtonian matter of objective and peer accepted fact that you
and others can take to the bank (unless it’s a kosher bank, in which
case you're not allowed to deposit anything that’s not of their
mainstream faith-based approval, because according to their long
standing policy and subsequent rules applied to everyone else, Eden/
Earth is always alone and supposedly all there is for accommodating
any complex biodiversity, and everything about our environment is
strictly terrestrial and somehow having nothing whatsoever to do with
human or external factors because, apparently their Eden/Earth has
been given unlimited and renewable resources of everything we need as
is, except for an inflated price).

Gravity Force of Attraction (orbital tidal radius)
http://www.1728.com/gravity.htm
http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/ca...alculator.html

Individual mass and velocity are of course significant and the most
dominate of trajectory factors, and then it gets especially complex
whenever there's more than two given bodies of mass to consider that
are each in proper motion to one another. This however doesn't
exclude our interacting with the Sirius star system, or otherwise
obfuscate/exclude what the weak force of gravity and the subsequent
laws of Newtonian orbital mechanics has to say.

~ BG
  #77  
Old October 17th 09, 06:48 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Oct 15, 6:54*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:02*am, BradGuth wrote:



On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:


Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Even though gravity is an extremely weak force, when there's enough
matter associated with a given star/solar system to place an affect
another nearby star/solar system, and it's especially so if such mass
is as nearby as our solar system and Sirius as already heading
elliptically towards one another, as is the case with us and Sirius.


Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll)

The example ratio of 8.3e7:1 is how much greater our solar system
remains via Newtonian force, as having been attracted to the existing
Sirius star/solar system, than otherwise associated with 2005-VX3
being the item (damocloid/asteroid) of 112 km diameter that’s forever
attracted to our sun. *This Sirius:XV3 ratio of 8.3e7:1 is just
another Newtonian matter of objective and peer accepted fact that you
and others can take to the bank (unless it’s a kosher bank, in which
case you're not allowed to deposit anything that’s not of their
mainstream faith-based approval, because according to their long
standing policy and subsequent rules applied to everyone else, Eden/
Earth is always alone and supposedly all there is for accommodating
any complex biodiversity, and everything about our environment is
strictly terrestrial and somehow having nothing whatsoever to do with
human or external factors because, apparently their Eden/Earth has
been given unlimited and renewable resources of everything we need as
is, except for an inflated price).

Gravity Force of Attraction (orbital tidal radius)
*http://www.1728.com/gravity.htm
*http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/ca...alculator.html

Individual mass and velocity are of course significant and the most
dominate of trajectory factors, and then it gets especially complex
whenever there's more than two given bodies of mass to consider that
are each in proper motion to one another. *This however doesn't
exclude our interacting with the Sirius star system, or otherwise
obfuscate/exclude what the weak force of gravity and the subsequent
laws of Newtonian orbital mechanics has to say.


How many planets like Venus did Sirius B originally have?

~ BG
  #78  
Old October 17th 09, 03:58 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Oct 17, 1:48*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Oct 15, 6:54*am, BradGuth wrote:





On Sep 21, 7:02*am, BradGuth wrote:


On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:


Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.

  #79  
Old October 17th 09, 10:16 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Do those laws of physics really function differently while on the
moon? (according to our Apollo missions, apparently so) As perhaps
otherwise something like the newish planet of Venus and even our
physically dark Selene/moon that may have belonged to Sirius B, with
conceivably our Venus having been what those Dogon implied as Sirius C
was perhaps not actually that of any third star, and otherwise the
remaining Sirius star system wobble being caused by whatever Sirius D
of .057 Ms (roughly 60 Mj) represents their true origin of where the
geologically newish Venus and our Selene/moon came from either Sirius
B or conceivably Sirius D that may have been a third star. At this
juncture we simply have too many unknowns and little if any talent or
resources focused upon the nearby Sirius star/solar system, so for the
moment there’s no objective proof-positive either way.

http://www.icr.org/article/3394/
“Using experimentally-determined diffusion coefficients for hydration
of olivine, water diffusion profiles were calculated for all three
crystallographic axes of an olivine grain at a temperature of
1245±45ºC for various durations, with an initial water content of ~312
weight parts per million (wt ppm) and a final water content of 0 wt
ppm at its rim. Thus it was possible to approximate the ascent rate of
the mantle xenoliths and, by extension, their host basalt. The
calculated ascent rates ranged from 1.9 hours at 1290ºC to 3.4 hours
at 1245ºC and 6.3 hours at 1200ºC. Furthermore, FTIR analyses across
cracks in the olivine grains did not exhibit any perturbations of the
hydrogen profiles, so hydrogen diffusion from the grain rims occurred
predominantly prior to the cracking of the grains near the earth's
surface or after the eruption of the host basalt. Therefore, these
mantle xenoliths must have reached the earth's surface in a matter of
only several hours.”

What part of zero ppm (“water content of 0 wt ppm at its rim”) do we
still not fully understand, and try to remember that this crystal dry
lunar environment is offering a near ideal vacuum, and even originally
its surface shouldn’t have offered at most more then 0.1 bar unless it
was covered in a thick layer of ice (as otherwise it’s not exactly
solid or much less liquid h2o friendly).

If there’s any surface basalt as loose rock and dust that contains
water, unless it were otherwise deposited by meteors and comets, as
such would tend to impose and/or reinforce my ongoing interpretation
that our Selene/moon was once upon a time covered by a very thick
layer of ice. As otherwise there shouldn’t but few if any ppm worth
of water to behold unless going deep, because the element or molecule
water needs pressure in order to coexist within basalt, and
unfortunately the one common thing our Selene/moon doesn’t offer is
pressure. So, unless we’re talking about going several km deep into
that thick and robust crust, there’s not going to bel all that much
h2o to behold.

If our moon were made extensively of Earth, then it’s crust and
surface of lose rock and dust should be similar in measurable ways to
that of terrestrial basalts.
http://bulletin.geoscienceworld.org/...ract/85/9/1485
“Chlorine, Sulfur, and Water in Magmas and Oceans”

However, it seems our currently naked Selene/moon is one of
considerable sodium and otherwise saturated and/or deposited in many
other unusually dark and heavy elements, including UV reactive
minerals, as well as those even heavier elements of radioactive and
their unavoidable secondary isotopes.

So, where’s the other 99.9% of our spendy LRO and LCROSS science that
obviously does not necessarily support our previous Apollo science or
mission physics?

Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”



On Oct 15, 6:54*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:02*am, BradGuth wrote:


On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:


Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Even though gravity is an extremely weak force, when there's enough
matter associated with a given star/solar system to place an affect
another nearby star/solar system, and it's especially so if such mass
is as nearby as our solar system and Sirius as already heading
elliptically towards one another, as is the case with us and Sirius.


Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll)

The example ratio of 8.3e7:1 is how much greater our solar system
remains via Newtonian force, as having been attracted to the existing
Sirius star/solar system, than otherwise associated with 2005-VX3
being the item (damocloid/asteroid) of 112 km diameter that’s forever
attracted to our sun. *This Sirius:XV3 ratio of 8.3e7:1 is just
another Newtonian matter of objective and peer accepted fact that you
and others can take to the bank (unless it’s a kosher bank, in which
case you're not allowed to deposit anything that’s not of their
mainstream faith-based approval, because according to their long
standing policy and subsequent rules applied to everyone else, Eden/
Earth is always alone and supposedly all there is for accommodating
any complex biodiversity, and everything about our environment is
strictly terrestrial and somehow having nothing whatsoever to do with
human or external factors because, apparently their Eden/Earth has
been given unlimited and renewable resources of everything we need as
is, except for an inflated price).

Gravity Force of Attraction (orbital tidal radius)
*http://www.1728.com/gravity.htm
*http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/ca...alculator.html

Individual mass and velocity are of course significant and the most
dominate of the trajectory factors, and then it gets especially complex
whenever there's more than two given bodies of mass to consider that
are each in proper motion to one another. *This however doesn't
exclude our interacting with the Sirius star system, or otherwise
obfuscate/exclude what the weak force of gravity and the subsequent
laws of Newtonian orbital mechanics has to say.


There's no possibly way we're not dominated by what the nearby and
still extremely vibrant Sirius star/solar system represents, much less
of what it used to represent before having lost so much of its
original mass, and before then of what the molecular cloud of 12.5e6
Ms represented.

~ BG
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Old October 17th 09, 10:32 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Oct 17, 7:58*am, American wrote:
On Oct 17, 1:48*am, BradGuth wrote:



On Oct 15, 6:54*am, BradGuth wrote:


On Sep 21, 7:02*am, BradGuth wrote:


On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:


Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Even though gravity is an extremely weak force, when there's enough
matter associated with a given star/solar system to place an affect
another nearby star/solar system, and it's especially so if such mass
is as nearby as our solar system and Sirius as already heading
elliptically towards one another, as is the case with us and Sirius..


Cosmological Ice Ages (by Henry Kroll)


The example ratio of 8.3e7:1 is how much greater our solar system
remains via Newtonian force, as having been attracted to the existing
Sirius star/solar system, than otherwise associated with 2005-VX3
being the item (damocloid/asteroid) of 112 km diameter that’s forever
attracted to our sun. *This Sirius:XV3 ratio of 8.3e7:1 is just
another Newtonian matter of objective and peer accepted fact that you
and others can take to the bank (unless it’s a kosher bank, in which
case you're not allowed to deposit anything that’s not of their
mainstream faith-based approval, because according to their long
standing policy and subsequent rules applied to everyone else, Eden/
Earth is always alone and supposedly all there is for accommodating
any complex biodiversity, and everything about our environment is
strictly terrestrial and somehow having nothing whatsoever to do with
human or external factors because, apparently their Eden/Earth has
been given unlimited and renewable resources of everything we need as
is, except for an inflated price).


Gravity Force of Attraction (orbital tidal radius)
*http://www.1728.com/gravity.htm
*http://www.wsanford.com/~wsanford/ca...alculator.html


Individual mass and velocity are of course significant and the most
dominate of trajectory factors, and then it gets especially complex
whenever there's more than two given bodies of mass to consider that
are each in proper motion to one another. *This however doesn't
exclude our interacting with the Sirius star system, or otherwise
obfuscate/exclude what the weak force of gravity and the subsequent
laws of Newtonian orbital mechanics has to say.


How many planets like Venus did Sirius B originally have?


*~ BG- Hide quoted text -


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to the legend of the Dogon,
given by Dr. Louis Turi:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2006/03/21

The "planetary" star system isn't quite identified as being that of
Sirius B, but I am inclined to believe that perhaps, according to
story given by:

http://www.sirianrevelations.net/star_a_b.shtml

"Although the scientific community has not confirmed the existence
*of *Sirius C, the Dogon knew of it by the name, Enome Ya, and they
*described it too as revolving around Sirius A.

*Of the planets that orbited Anu, one did not achieve ascension when
*the star, which remains in the fourth dimension, did not: that planet
*is Nebiru, the home of the Annunaki.

*Nebiru was flung out of Sirius, was captured by our sun, and
*ricocheted back to Sirius and it is to this day caught between the
*two star systems, on an elliptical journey that takes approximately
*3,600 years to complete."

American


There is a Sirius C, or possibly it's Sirius D because Sirius C turned
out as becoming our planet Venus. Whatever is causing the wobble from
a 0.057 Ms item is still invisible to most astronomy instruments. It
could even turn out being a small neutron star or possibly a black
hole, although brown-dwarf or extremely large planet seems more
likely.

Rogue or elliptical trekking items between our sun and Sirius should
also be within the cards of what's technically possible, although the
much greater combined Sirius mass will always dominate.

~ BG
 




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