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Old June 6th 18, 05:08 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the
universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of
extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm
comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang
concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current
apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant
and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe
for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? !


At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago.

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Old June 7th 18, 08:31 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Mark Earnest wrote on 06/06/18 19:47:
On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:59:32 PM UTC-5 wrote:
The universe is obviously infinite.

The notion of across implies one boundary to another, which is
nonesense since there can't be any boundaries.

If you're looking at something billions of light years away, then
it's almost guaranteed to be long gone by the time you see it !


How do you know the universe is infinite? I say the universe is a
certain size and no bigger. If it all came from the Big Bang it has
to be a certain size.


Yes, the Universe *is* a certain size and no bigger!!

Oh, look, the Universe *is bigger* and a certain size and no bigger!!

What it is surrounded by is infinite.

Yeap, infinite nothingness ... which the Universe will eventually occupy
as well!!

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Old June 7th 18, 01:23 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the
universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of
extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm
comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang
concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current
apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant
and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe
for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? !


At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago.



Faulty logic.



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Old June 7th 18, 01:56 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the
universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of
extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm
comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang
concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current
apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant
and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe
for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? !


At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago.



Faulty logic.


Millions of scientists world wide do not think so.
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Old June 7th 18, 02:07 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Whisper[_2_]
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On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the
universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of
extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm
comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang
concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current
apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant
and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe
for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? !

At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago.



Faulty logic.


Millions of scientists world wide do not think so.


Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe.

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Old June 7th 18, 03:22 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Mark Earnest[_2_]
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On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 8:07:58 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the
universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of
extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm
comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang
concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current
apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant
and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe
for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? !

At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago.



Faulty logic.


Millions of scientists world wide do not think so.


Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe.



O.K. If you are going to take a stand against all the scientists I can only encourage you. The scientists do understand very little.
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Old June 8th 18, 05:32 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Whisper wrote on 07/06/18 23:07:
On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the
universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of
extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm
comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang
concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current
apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant
and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe
for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? !

At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must
have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago.

Faulty logic.


Millions of scientists world wide do not think so.


Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe.

Correct!! But they would still know many times more than any of us,
here, I would expect!!

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Daniel
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Old June 8th 18, 11:26 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On 8/06/2018 2:32 PM, Daniel60 wrote:
Whisper wrote on 07/06/18 23:07:
On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the
universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of
extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm
comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if
it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang
concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current
apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume
constant
and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe
for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? !

At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must
have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago.

Faulty logic.

Millions of scientists world wide do not think so.


Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe.

Correct!! But they would still know many times more than any of us,
here, I would expect!!




Four fifths of **** all is still **** all.

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Old June 9th 18, 11:41 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Whisper wrote on 08/06/18 20:26:
On 8/06/2018 2:32 PM, Daniel60 wrote:
Whisper wrote on 07/06/18 23:07:
On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi
wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a
concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here.
Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but
understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the
infinite character of the universe, even if it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the
Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption,
that the current apparent increasing distances between
galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back
13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g.
that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ?
!

At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another
they must have been together at some point about 10-15
billion years ago.

Faulty logic.

Millions of scientists world wide do not think so.

Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe.

Correct!! But they would still know many times more than any of us,
here, I would expect!!


Four fifths of **** all is still **** all.

Yeap, but four fifths is a hell of a lot more than your, and my, (maybe)
one fifth!!

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Old June 21st 18, 07:16 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 3:26:49 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
On 8/06/2018 2:32 PM, Daniel60 wrote:
Whisper wrote on 07/06/18 23:07:
On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the
universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of
extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm
comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if
it is
difficult or impossible to visualize.

What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang
concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current
apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume
constant
and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe
for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? !

At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must
have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago.

Faulty logic.

Millions of scientists world wide do not think so.

Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe.

Correct!! But they would still know many times more than any of us,
here, I would expect!!




Four fifths of **** all is still **** all.

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