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You can see any star from across the universe...
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote:
Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
Mark Earnest wrote on 06/06/18 19:47:
On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 at 2:59:32 PM UTC-5 wrote: The universe is obviously infinite. The notion of across implies one boundary to another, which is nonesense since there can't be any boundaries. If you're looking at something billions of light years away, then it's almost guaranteed to be long gone by the time you see it ! How do you know the universe is infinite? I say the universe is a certain size and no bigger. If it all came from the Big Bang it has to be a certain size. Yes, the Universe *is* a certain size and no bigger!! Oh, look, the Universe *is bigger* and a certain size and no bigger!! What it is surrounded by is infinite. Yeap, infinite nothingness ... which the Universe will eventually occupy as well!! -- Daniel |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote: Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. Faulty logic. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote: Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. Faulty logic. Millions of scientists world wide do not think so. |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote:
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote: On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote: Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. Faulty logic. Millions of scientists world wide do not think so. Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 8:07:58 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote:
On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote: On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote: Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. Faulty logic. Millions of scientists world wide do not think so. Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe. O.K. If you are going to take a stand against all the scientists I can only encourage you. The scientists do understand very little. |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
Whisper wrote on 07/06/18 23:07:
On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote: On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote: Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. Faulty logic. Millions of scientists world wide do not think so. Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe. Correct!! But they would still know many times more than any of us, here, I would expect!! -- Daniel |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
On 8/06/2018 2:32 PM, Daniel60 wrote:
Whisper wrote on 07/06/18 23:07: On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote: On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote: Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. Faulty logic. Millions of scientists world wide do not think so. Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe. Correct!! But they would still know many times more than any of us, here, I would expect!! Four fifths of **** all is still **** all. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
Whisper wrote on 08/06/18 20:26:
On 8/06/2018 2:32 PM, Daniel60 wrote: Whisper wrote on 07/06/18 23:07: On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote: On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote: Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. Faulty logic. Millions of scientists world wide do not think so. Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe. Correct!! But they would still know many times more than any of us, here, I would expect!! Four fifths of **** all is still **** all. Yeap, but four fifths is a hell of a lot more than your, and my, (maybe) one fifth!! -- Daniel |
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You can see any star from across the universe...
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 3:26:49 AM UTC-7, Whisper wrote:
On 8/06/2018 2:32 PM, Daniel60 wrote: Whisper wrote on 07/06/18 23:07: On 7/06/2018 10:56 PM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:23:37 AM UTC-5, Whisper wrote: On 7/06/2018 2:08 AM, Mark Earnest wrote: On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:27:23 AM UTC-5, casagi wrote: Our understandings may differ, but we can relate to a concept of the universe, as demonstrated right here. Infinite by a kind of extrapolated induction, but understandable in that sense. I'm comfortable with the infinite character of the universe, even if it is difficult or impossible to visualize. What I find much more difficult or unreasonable, is the Big Bang concept. It seems to be based on the assumption, that the current apparent increasing distances between galaxies, can be assume constant and extrapolated back 13.8 biillion years. Can anyone really believe for e.g. that all the galaxies just spranf from a single point ? ! At the rate the galaxies are moving away from one another they must have been together at some point about 10-15 billion years ago. Faulty logic. Millions of scientists world wide do not think so. Most scientists admit they know **** all about the universe. Correct!! But they would still know many times more than any of us, here, I would expect!! Four fifths of **** all is still **** all. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com Universe space is 2.7 K everywhere.Bert |
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