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Old January 29th 18, 06:43 AM posted to sci.space.history
Stuf4
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

Fact: NASA uses racist clocks.


People are blind to many forms of racism. With a legacy of hundreds of years,
racism is steeped into our culture so deeply that many forms go unchecked.
People continue to use these heavily tainted aspects with no thought at all
about the roots of where these things came from.

As evidenced on this forum, people do not care that the Apollo 16 landing site
has been branded with racist symbolism. People care even less that the clocks
that NASA uses continue to promote a racist legacy.

There are other examples beside clocks and Stone Mountain. We could play 'Spot
the Racism', if anyone was game.

Here's one that was pointed out earlier...
Astronaut Jan Davis flying her "WASP" pennant, her alma mater Georgia Tech:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/99...89be0f559b.jpg

As for the clocks, no one complains about it. The voices of the people who care
has been squashed so thoroughly that their voice is not even heard anymore.

Anyone interested in more examples? Here is a list of NASA aircraft:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NASA_aircraft

There are several examples of officially sanctioned racism by NASA right there.
It continues through to today. And nobody cares.


It has been recently suggested that certain issues are Off Topic for this forum.
But these things being highlighted here span from today all the way back to the
very beginnings of NASA and earlier. So I see them to be quite fitting for
discussion among those with an interest in space history.

~ CT
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Old January 29th 18, 03:29 PM posted to sci.space.history
Dean Markley
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 12:43:12 AM UTC-5, Stuf4 wrote:
Fact: NASA uses racist clocks.


People are blind to many forms of racism. With a legacy of hundreds of years,
racism is steeped into our culture so deeply that many forms go unchecked.
People continue to use these heavily tainted aspects with no thought at all
about the roots of where these things came from.

As evidenced on this forum, people do not care that the Apollo 16 landing site
has been branded with racist symbolism. People care even less that the clocks
that NASA uses continue to promote a racist legacy.

There are other examples beside clocks and Stone Mountain. We could play 'Spot
the Racism', if anyone was game.

Here's one that was pointed out earlier...
Astronaut Jan Davis flying her "WASP" pennant, her alma mater Georgia Tech:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/99...89be0f559b.jpg

As for the clocks, no one complains about it. The voices of the people who care
has been squashed so thoroughly that their voice is not even heard anymore.

Anyone interested in more examples? Here is a list of NASA aircraft:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NASA_aircraft

There are several examples of officially sanctioned racism by NASA right there.
It continues through to today. And nobody cares.


It has been recently suggested that certain issues are Off Topic for this forum.
But these things being highlighted here span from today all the way back to the
very beginnings of NASA and earlier. So I see them to be quite fitting for
discussion among those with an interest in space history.

~ CT


What is wrong with you?
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Old January 30th 18, 05:36 AM posted to sci.space.history
Stuf4
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

From Dean Markley:
On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 12:43:12 AM UTC-5, Stuf4 wrote:
Fact: NASA uses racist clocks.


People are blind to many forms of racism. With a legacy of hundreds of years,
racism is steeped into our culture so deeply that many forms go unchecked.
People continue to use these heavily tainted aspects with no thought at all
about the roots of where these things came from.

As evidenced on this forum, people do not care that the Apollo 16 landing site
has been branded with racist symbolism. People care even less that the clocks
that NASA uses continue to promote a racist legacy.

There are other examples beside clocks and Stone Mountain. We could play 'Spot
the Racism', if anyone was game.

Here's one that was pointed out earlier...
Astronaut Jan Davis flying her "WASP" pennant, her alma mater Georgia Tech:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/99...89be0f559b.jpg

As for the clocks, no one complains about it. The voices of the people who care
has been squashed so thoroughly that their voice is not even heard anymore.

Anyone interested in more examples? Here is a list of NASA aircraft:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NASA_aircraft

There are several examples of officially sanctioned racism by NASA right there.
It continues through to today. And nobody cares.


It has been recently suggested that certain issues are Off Topic for this forum.
But these things being highlighted here span from today all the way back to the
very beginnings of NASA and earlier. So I see them to be quite fitting for
discussion among those with an interest in space history.


What is wrong with you?



Ok, that's 2 people who aren't interested in hearing how clocks are racist.

As for what exactly "is wrong", I myself am of the opinion that it is the racism that is the problem, not the person who is wanting to shine a light on the racism.

I had first pointed this out maybe two decades ago. Not here on this forum, but over on a forum that used this same practice. They were a lot more receptive to having this called to their attention. And I'm highlighting this over here now because it fits with the essential theme of the discussion in the wake of John Young's death this month...

Improving sensitivity to issues that people just didn't care about for many many years. Generally known as "progress".

So what's wrong with me? I care about progress. I care about improving the human condition. I refuse to ignore that Stone Mountain has a poisonous legacy, and that horribly negative aspects of that has been transplanted up on the Moon. Etc.

It is clear that Fred, Jeff, and apparently you, would prefer to keep your heads buried in the sand over stuff like this. Given that I am a minority of 1 here who is wanting progress on these things, it is easy to dismiss me as being the problem. There are many who wanted to dismiss Martin Luther King as the problem.

....but that didn't happen. The minority opinion gained momentum and support. People switching from the majority side. The oppressive side.

And for anyone who is curious about the clock situation, it is an entrenched oppression of what has been recently categorized as a "******** country" in a "******** continent".

This is not limited to NASA. It is quite possible that you own clocks and watches express this same racism. There are millions of people who support this practice, giving no thought at all to the black-skinned people who this has impacted.


(The situation with those aircraft is not about black peoples. But I see that issue to be just as important. Or perhaps more important.)

~ CT
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Old January 30th 18, 03:42 PM posted to sci.space.history
Dean Markley
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 11:36:47 PM UTC-5, Stuf4 wrote:
From Dean Markley:
On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 12:43:12 AM UTC-5, Stuf4 wrote:
Fact: NASA uses racist clocks.


People are blind to many forms of racism. With a legacy of hundreds of years,
racism is steeped into our culture so deeply that many forms go unchecked.
People continue to use these heavily tainted aspects with no thought at all
about the roots of where these things came from.

As evidenced on this forum, people do not care that the Apollo 16 landing site
has been branded with racist symbolism. People care even less that the clocks
that NASA uses continue to promote a racist legacy.

There are other examples beside clocks and Stone Mountain. We could play 'Spot
the Racism', if anyone was game.

Here's one that was pointed out earlier...
Astronaut Jan Davis flying her "WASP" pennant, her alma mater Georgia Tech:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/99...89be0f559b.jpg

As for the clocks, no one complains about it. The voices of the people who care
has been squashed so thoroughly that their voice is not even heard anymore.

Anyone interested in more examples? Here is a list of NASA aircraft:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NASA_aircraft

There are several examples of officially sanctioned racism by NASA right there.
It continues through to today. And nobody cares.


It has been recently suggested that certain issues are Off Topic for this forum.
But these things being highlighted here span from today all the way back to the
very beginnings of NASA and earlier. So I see them to be quite fitting for
discussion among those with an interest in space history.


What is wrong with you?



Ok, that's 2 people who aren't interested in hearing how clocks are racist.

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Old January 31st 18, 05:11 AM posted to sci.space.history
Stuf4
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

From Dean Markley:
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Look, racist clocks have nothing to do with Space History. It's that simple. Multiple folks here have pointed out that your threads are off topic. Understand now?


One year ago your position on Debbie Reynolds was that she did not have any connection to space history ...even after the connection was pointed out.

But there is the possibility that someone here ...if not today, then perhaps at some point in the future... might be open-minded enough to consider what has to be said about this clock problem. And the other stuff too.

~ CT
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Old January 31st 18, 01:55 PM posted to sci.space.history
Dean Markley
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 11:11:22 PM UTC-5, Stuf4 wrote:
From Dean Markley:
snip
Look, racist clocks have nothing to do with Space History. It's that simple. Multiple folks here have pointed out that your threads are off topic. Understand now?


One year ago your position on Debbie Reynolds was that she did not have any connection to space history ...even after the connection was pointed out.

But there is the possibility that someone here ...if not today, then perhaps at some point in the future... might be open-minded enough to consider what has to be said about this clock problem. And the other stuff too.

~ CT


Well sure, give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time and he'll eventually bang out all of Shakespeare's plays.
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Old February 1st 18, 02:51 AM posted to sci.space.history
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

Stuf4 wrote:


Fact: NASA uses racist clocks.


Fact: You're an insane racist.


It has been recently suggested that certain issues are Off Topic for this forum.


Yes. Insanity has no place here and this isn't a 'forum'.


--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
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Old February 1st 18, 03:06 AM posted to sci.space.history
Fred J. McCall[_3_]
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

Stuf4 wrote:

From Dean Markley:
On Monday, January 29, 2018 at 12:43:12 AM UTC-5, Stuf4 wrote:
Fact: NASA uses racist clocks.


People are blind to many forms of racism. With a legacy of hundreds of years,
racism is steeped into our culture so deeply that many forms go unchecked.
People continue to use these heavily tainted aspects with no thought at all
about the roots of where these things came from.

As evidenced on this forum, people do not care that the Apollo 16 landing site
has been branded with racist symbolism. People care even less that the clocks
that NASA uses continue to promote a racist legacy.

There are other examples beside clocks and Stone Mountain. We could play 'Spot
the Racism', if anyone was game.

Here's one that was pointed out earlier...
Astronaut Jan Davis flying her "WASP" pennant, her alma mater Georgia Tech:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1e/99...89be0f559b.jpg

As for the clocks, no one complains about it. The voices of the people who care
has been squashed so thoroughly that their voice is not even heard anymore.

Anyone interested in more examples? Here is a list of NASA aircraft:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NASA_aircraft

There are several examples of officially sanctioned racism by NASA right there.
It continues through to today. And nobody cares.


It has been recently suggested that certain issues are Off Topic for this forum.
But these things being highlighted here span from today all the way back to the
very beginnings of NASA and earlier. So I see them to be quite fitting for
discussion among those with an interest in space history.


What is wrong with you?


Ok, that's 2 people who aren't interested in hearing how clocks are racist.


OK, that's everyone but you who aren't interested in your insane
idiocy about 'racist' clocks.


As for what exactly "is wrong", I myself am of the opinion that it is the racism that is the problem, not the person who is wanting to shine a light on the racism.


But you're insane, so your opinion doesn't carry much weight.


I had first pointed this out maybe two decades ago. Not here on this forum, but over on a forum that used this same practice. They were a lot more receptive to having this called to their attention.


Then you should go back to whatever loony bin that was and leave us
sane people alone.


Improving sensitivity to issues that people just didn't care about for many many years. Generally known as "progress".


Being so 'sensitive' that you're literally insane is generally known
as "being a loony ninny". You should quit it.


So what's wrong with me?


You're a loony racist ninny.


--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
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Old February 1st 18, 07:24 AM posted to sci.space.history
Stuf4
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Default More Examples of Current NASA Racism: Clocks, etc

From Dean Markley:
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 11:11:22 PM UTC-5, Stuf4 wrote:
From Dean Markley:
snip
Look, racist clocks have nothing to do with Space History. It's that simple. Multiple folks here have pointed out that your threads are off topic. Understand now?


One year ago your position on Debbie Reynolds was that she did not have any connection to space history ...even after the connection was pointed out.

But there is the possibility that someone here ...if not today, then perhaps at some point in the future... might be open-minded enough to consider what has to be said about this clock problem. And the other stuff too.


Well sure, give a monkey a typewriter and infinite time and he'll eventually bang out all of Shakespeare's plays.


Actually, curiously enough, this time thing actually ties in to Shakespeare. And to Apollo. You may know the connection between Shakespeare and Apollo.

The racist clocks connect Shakespeare to Apollo to NASA. And by way of the racism, returning full circle to John Young's legacy at the Apollo 16 landing site.

~ CT
 




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