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Old January 26th 12, 08:16 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/

moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the
money is coming from......
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Old January 26th 12, 11:44 PM posted to sci.space.policy
jacob navia[_5_]
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Le 26/01/12 20:16, bob haller a écrit :
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/

moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the
money is coming from......


Since he will abolish all legislation forbidding child work, as
he said, probably he will put the kids to do it

:-)

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Old January 27th 12, 03:48 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Brian Thorn[_2_]
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:16:31 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/

moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the
money is coming from......


What do you mean 'no mention?' He specifically said he'd set aside 10%
of NASA's annual budget to pay for prizes to the first company to
build a moonbase by 2020. I would only amend his prize by saying that
the bounty declines 5% every year after 2020 until the job is done.

God help me, I might have to vote for Newt.

Brian
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Old January 27th 12, 03:54 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:44:42 +0100, jacob navia
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Le 26/01/12 20:16, bob haller a écrit :
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/

moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the
money is coming from......


Since he will abolish all legislation forbidding child work, as
he said, probably he will put the kids to do it


He wasn't very clear in that topic, what he was trying to say was that
instead of kids roaming the streets after school because they can't
get jobs, they should be allowed to get jobs. It is a slippery slope,
but at least he's putting ideas out there to do something, ideas other
than the spectacularly failed social programs of the last 50 years.

In any case, his space prize concept doesn't tell anyone how to do the
job, they just win the prize money when the job is done.

Brian
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Old January 27th 12, 04:54 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Jan 26, 10:14*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/


moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the
money is coming from......


But ... but ... I swear that noted sage Bobbert explained to us how
all Republican candidates had pledged to end Manned Space!

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
*truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson


that doesnt mean much of anything. he says nothing of paying for
it..... and in any case congress must cut entitlements, which make a
new program impossible
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Old January 27th 12, 05:11 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Brian Thorn[_2_]
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:54:04 -0800 (PST), bob haller
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But ... but ... I swear that noted sage Bobbert explained to us how
all Republican candidates had pledged to end Manned Space!


that doesnt mean much of anything. he says nothing of paying for
it..... and in any case congress must cut entitlements, which make a
new program impossible


Bob, with all due respect... Pull your head out of your ass. Blindly
ignoring facts that don't suit you is what you're famous for around
here, but you have gone completely nutjob this time. Pretty much every
news story about Gingrich's space plan over the last 48 hours has
explained how he'd pay for it.

http://news.discovery.com/space/newt...sa-120126.html

"Gingrich wants to pioneer space without a huge standing government
bureaucracy and with investments by private industry. To help lure
companies and research organizations to space, Gingrich proposes to
spend 10 percent of NASA's budget, which is currently $17.8 billion,
for prizes for an array of competitions."

Try actually reading about a subject before you start spouting off
about it.

Brian
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Old January 27th 12, 05:38 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Bob Haller
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On Jan 27, 11:11*am, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:54:04 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

But ... but ... I swear that noted sage Bobbert explained to us how
all Republican candidates had pledged to end Manned Space!

that doesnt mean much of anything. he says nothing of paying for
it..... and in any case congress must cut entitlements, which make a
new program impossible


Bob, with all due respect... Pull your head out of your ass. Blindly
ignoring facts that don't suit you is what you're famous for around
here, but you have gone completely nutjob this time. Pretty much every
news story about Gingrich's space plan over the last 48 hours has
explained how he'd pay for it.

http://news.discovery.com/space/newt...ns-nasa-120126...

"Gingrich wants to pioneer space without a huge standing government
bureaucracy and with investments by private industry. To help lure
companies and research organizations to space, Gingrich proposes to
spend 10 percent of NASA's budget, which is currently $17.8 billion,
for prizes for an array of competitions."

Try actually reading about a subject before you start spouting off
about it.

Brian


that wouldnt be enough money even to begin a robust program.

what they should do is make all off world profits tax free for 10
years. since without the tax forgiveness the profits would of never
occured

when this story first broke there was no info on funding it
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Old January 28th 12, 03:28 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Brian Thorn[_2_]
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:38:27 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

"Gingrich wants to pioneer space without a huge standing government
bureaucracy and with investments by private industry. To help lure
companies and research organizations to space, Gingrich proposes to
spend 10 percent of NASA's budget, which is currently $17.8 billion,
for prizes for an array of competitions."

Try actually reading about a subject before you start spouting off
about it.


that wouldnt be enough money even to begin a robust program.


Says who, you in all your worldly expertise?

Take a look at what SpaceX has done for less than a billion of their
own cash and maybe a little more than that in contracts for DoD and
NASA. Two rockets, one spacecraft upgradable to manned flight, and one
of the rockets being upgraded to a 120,000+ lbs. launcher.

Brian
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Old January 28th 12, 04:11 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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"bob haller" wrote in message
...
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/

moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the
money is coming from......



He said ...exactly where the money would be coming from
a few months ago. By....eliminating NASA! And giving
the money to the private sector.

You space folks are so gullible.


Replace NASA with incentives to private sector

Q: What role should the government play in future space exploration?

GINGRICH: I'm a big fan of going into space and I worked to get the shuttle
program to survive at one point. But NASA has become a case study in why
bureaucracy can't innovate. If you take all the money we've spent at NASA
since we landed on the moon and you had applied that money for incentives to
the private sector, we would today probably have a permanent station on the
moon, and a new generation of lift vehicles. And instead, what we've had is
bureaucracy after bureaucracy and failure after failure. We're at the
beginning of a whole new cycle of extraordinary opportunities. And,
unfortunately, NASA is standing in the way of it, when NASA ought to be
getting out of the way and encouraging the private sector.

PAWLENTY: I don't think we should eliminate the space program.

GINGRICH: I didn't say end the space program. I said you could get into
space faster & more effectively, if you decentralized it & got it out of
Washington.

Source: 2011 GOP primary debate in Manchester NH , Jun 13, 2011


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Old January 28th 12, 03:20 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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"Brian Thorn" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:44:42 +0100, jacob navia
wrote:

Le 26/01/12 20:16, bob haller a écrit :
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/

moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the
money is coming from......


Since he will abolish all legislation forbidding child work, as
he said, probably he will put the kids to do it


He wasn't very clear in that topic, what he was trying to say was that
instead of kids roaming the streets after school because they can't
get jobs, they should be allowed to get jobs. It is a slippery slope,
but at least he's putting ideas out there to do something, ideas other
than the spectacularly failed social programs of the last 50 years.



His solutions typically begin by eliminating the respective govt
agency and givng the money to his friends and political
supporters. From the EPA to Education, he's never met
a govt agency he isn't willing to plunder.

Was everyone here born yesterday?



In any case, his space prize concept doesn't tell anyone how to do the
job, they just win the prize money when the job is done.



You're forgetting that NASA won't be around for the competition
is Newt has his way.



Brian



 




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