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gingrich wants florida votes
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/
moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the money is coming from...... |
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Le 26/01/12 20:16, bob haller a écrit :
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/ moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the money is coming from...... Since he will abolish all legislation forbidding child work, as he said, probably he will put the kids to do it :-) |
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:16:31 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote: http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/ moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the money is coming from...... What do you mean 'no mention?' He specifically said he'd set aside 10% of NASA's annual budget to pay for prizes to the first company to build a moonbase by 2020. I would only amend his prize by saying that the bounty declines 5% every year after 2020 until the job is done. God help me, I might have to vote for Newt. Brian |
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:44:42 +0100, jacob navia
wrote: Le 26/01/12 20:16, bob haller a écrit : http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/ moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the money is coming from...... Since he will abolish all legislation forbidding child work, as he said, probably he will put the kids to do it He wasn't very clear in that topic, what he was trying to say was that instead of kids roaming the streets after school because they can't get jobs, they should be allowed to get jobs. It is a slippery slope, but at least he's putting ideas out there to do something, ideas other than the spectacularly failed social programs of the last 50 years. In any case, his space prize concept doesn't tell anyone how to do the job, they just win the prize money when the job is done. Brian |
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On Jan 26, 10:14*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote: http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/ moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the money is coming from...... But ... but ... I swear that noted sage Bobbert explained to us how all Republican candidates had pledged to end Manned Space! -- "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the *truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Thomas Jefferson that doesnt mean much of anything. he says nothing of paying for it..... and in any case congress must cut entitlements, which make a new program impossible |
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:54:04 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote: But ... but ... I swear that noted sage Bobbert explained to us how all Republican candidates had pledged to end Manned Space! that doesnt mean much of anything. he says nothing of paying for it..... and in any case congress must cut entitlements, which make a new program impossible Bob, with all due respect... Pull your head out of your ass. Blindly ignoring facts that don't suit you is what you're famous for around here, but you have gone completely nutjob this time. Pretty much every news story about Gingrich's space plan over the last 48 hours has explained how he'd pay for it. http://news.discovery.com/space/newt...sa-120126.html "Gingrich wants to pioneer space without a huge standing government bureaucracy and with investments by private industry. To help lure companies and research organizations to space, Gingrich proposes to spend 10 percent of NASA's budget, which is currently $17.8 billion, for prizes for an array of competitions." Try actually reading about a subject before you start spouting off about it. Brian |
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On Jan 27, 11:11*am, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:54:04 -0800 (PST), bob haller wrote: But ... but ... I swear that noted sage Bobbert explained to us how all Republican candidates had pledged to end Manned Space! that doesnt mean much of anything. he says nothing of paying for it..... and in any case congress must cut entitlements, which make a new program impossible Bob, with all due respect... Pull your head out of your ass. Blindly ignoring facts that don't suit you is what you're famous for around here, but you have gone completely nutjob this time. Pretty much every news story about Gingrich's space plan over the last 48 hours has explained how he'd pay for it. http://news.discovery.com/space/newt...ns-nasa-120126... "Gingrich wants to pioneer space without a huge standing government bureaucracy and with investments by private industry. To help lure companies and research organizations to space, Gingrich proposes to spend 10 percent of NASA's budget, which is currently $17.8 billion, for prizes for an array of competitions." Try actually reading about a subject before you start spouting off about it. Brian that wouldnt be enough money even to begin a robust program. what they should do is make all off world profits tax free for 10 years. since without the tax forgiveness the profits would of never occured when this story first broke there was no info on funding it |
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:38:27 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote: "Gingrich wants to pioneer space without a huge standing government bureaucracy and with investments by private industry. To help lure companies and research organizations to space, Gingrich proposes to spend 10 percent of NASA's budget, which is currently $17.8 billion, for prizes for an array of competitions." Try actually reading about a subject before you start spouting off about it. that wouldnt be enough money even to begin a robust program. Says who, you in all your worldly expertise? Take a look at what SpaceX has done for less than a billion of their own cash and maybe a little more than that in contracts for DoD and NASA. Two rockets, one spacecraft upgradable to manned flight, and one of the rockets being upgraded to a 120,000+ lbs. launcher. Brian |
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gingrich (speaks with forked-tongue)
"bob haller" wrote in message ... http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/ moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the money is coming from...... He said ...exactly where the money would be coming from a few months ago. By....eliminating NASA! And giving the money to the private sector. You space folks are so gullible. Replace NASA with incentives to private sector Q: What role should the government play in future space exploration? GINGRICH: I'm a big fan of going into space and I worked to get the shuttle program to survive at one point. But NASA has become a case study in why bureaucracy can't innovate. If you take all the money we've spent at NASA since we landed on the moon and you had applied that money for incentives to the private sector, we would today probably have a permanent station on the moon, and a new generation of lift vehicles. And instead, what we've had is bureaucracy after bureaucracy and failure after failure. We're at the beginning of a whole new cycle of extraordinary opportunities. And, unfortunately, NASA is standing in the way of it, when NASA ought to be getting out of the way and encouraging the private sector. PAWLENTY: I don't think we should eliminate the space program. GINGRICH: I didn't say end the space program. I said you could get into space faster & more effectively, if you decentralized it & got it out of Washington. Source: 2011 GOP primary debate in Manchester NH , Jun 13, 2011 g |
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"Brian Thorn" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:44:42 +0100, jacob navia wrote: Le 26/01/12 20:16, bob haller a écrit : http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1201/25gingrich/ moonbase by 2020 he must be dreaming, and no mention of where the money is coming from...... Since he will abolish all legislation forbidding child work, as he said, probably he will put the kids to do it He wasn't very clear in that topic, what he was trying to say was that instead of kids roaming the streets after school because they can't get jobs, they should be allowed to get jobs. It is a slippery slope, but at least he's putting ideas out there to do something, ideas other than the spectacularly failed social programs of the last 50 years. His solutions typically begin by eliminating the respective govt agency and givng the money to his friends and political supporters. From the EPA to Education, he's never met a govt agency he isn't willing to plunder. Was everyone here born yesterday? In any case, his space prize concept doesn't tell anyone how to do the job, they just win the prize money when the job is done. You're forgetting that NASA won't be around for the competition is Newt has his way. Brian |
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