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Old June 30th 19, 07:03 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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According to:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-tech-advances


"the Chief Technical Officer (CTO) of the Naval Aviation Enterprise personally
wrote a letter addressed to the examiner claiming that the U.S. needs the patent
as the Chinese are already “investing significantly” in these aerospace
technologies that sound eerily similar to the UFOs reported by Navy pilots in now
well-known encounters. This raises the question, are the Chinese developing or
even already flying craft leveraging similar advanced technology and is the Navy
now scrambling to catch up?"


"the unorthodox circumstances surrounding the approval of this patent have us
wondering why the Chief Technology Officer of the U.S. Naval Aviation Enterprise,
Dr. James Sheehy, personally vouched for the legitimacy of this beyond-
revolutionary aerospace technology in the Navy’s appeal to the USPTO. Sheehy
assured the patent examiner in charge of this application that the aircraft
propulsion method described in the patent is indeed possible or will be soon based
on experiments and tests NAWCAD has already conducted."


Are we on the verge of a revolutionary advance in propulsion technology? Or is
this some sort of military disinformation campaign?

If the latter, what would be the purpose of such a campaign?
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Old July 1st 19, 06:03 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 30/06/2019 4:03 pm, wrote:
According to:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-tech-advances


"the Chief Technical Officer (CTO) of the Naval Aviation Enterprise personally
wrote a letter addressed to the examiner claiming that the U.S. needs the patent
as the Chinese are already “investing significantly” in these aerospace
technologies that sound eerily similar to the UFOs reported by Navy pilots in now
well-known encounters. This raises the question, are the Chinese developing or
even already flying craft leveraging similar advanced technology and is the Navy
now scrambling to catch up?"


"the unorthodox circumstances surrounding the approval of this patent have us
wondering why the Chief Technology Officer of the U.S. Naval Aviation Enterprise,
Dr. James Sheehy, personally vouched for the legitimacy of this beyond-
revolutionary aerospace technology in the Navy’s appeal to the USPTO. Sheehy
assured the patent examiner in charge of this application that the aircraft
propulsion method described in the patent is indeed possible or will be soon based
on experiments and tests NAWCAD has already conducted."


Are we on the verge of a revolutionary advance in propulsion technology? Or is
this some sort of military disinformation campaign?

If the latter, what would be the purpose of such a campaign?


I posted on this in sci.physics, copied below.

It's very technical. The PTO did actually do its best to reject the
patent, pointing out that the energies and magnetic fields required are
orders of magnitudes higher than currently achievable, and that the the
magnetic field requirement is multiples of that produced by a neutron star.

The Navy concedes that it cannot be currently be built, but appear to be
concerned about work the Chinese are doing in this area (I kid you not).
See

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfewrm16u9...81%29.pdf?dl=0

Ultimately, it seems to have been granted on the basis that the patent
office cannot prove that it won't work, in the face of theoretical work
that suggests that it can, but which clearly has not actually been
tested because of the energies and magnetic fields involved. There is an
appeal to quantum mechanics, but no mention of the fact that the lack of
reconciliation of quantum mechanics with gravity means we know that that
something has to break at some point.


The documents related to the application can be read at

https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair

Use application number

15/141270

Go to the Image File Wrapper tab. Be prepared to waste a lot of time.

In the mean time, I have a free-energy device that I'd like the Navy to
fund.

Sylvia.

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Old July 1st 19, 06:16 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:03:51 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:


In the mean time, I have a free-energy device that I'd like the Navy to
fund.

Sylvia.



Well, the military's already been funding Zero Point energy, so why not?

http://siriusdisclosure.com/wp-conte...int-Energy.pdf
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Old July 2nd 19, 04:01 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 1/07/2019 3:16 pm, wrote:
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:03:51 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:


In the mean time, I have a free-energy device that I'd like the Navy to
fund.

Sylvia.



Well, the military's already been funding Zero Point energy, so why not?

http://siriusdisclosure.com/wp-conte...int-Energy.pdf


Extracting energy from the Casimir effect? Has scam written all over it.

Sylvia.
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Old July 2nd 19, 06:35 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 8:01:53 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 1/07/2019 3:16 pm, wrote:
On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 10:03:51 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:


In the mean time, I have a free-energy device that I'd like the Navy to
fund.

Sylvia.



Well, the military's already been funding Zero Point energy, so why not?

http://siriusdisclosure.com/wp-conte...int-Energy.pdf


Extracting energy from the Casimir effect? Has scam written all over it.

Sylvia.




Gotta do something to keep up with those Chinese(?) "Tic-tac" UFOs.

https://www.history.com/shows/uniden...on-1/episode-1

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Old July 14th 19, 08:36 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Interesting tidbit:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7cn15z


In discussing UFOs with the Italians, Luis Elizondo (at about the 6:40/41:06 point
of the video) says we still don't know what they are, but we we have a much better
understanding of how they work. Now these weird patents are popping up.

Hmmmmmmmm.
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Old August 6th 19, 04:25 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On 6/30/2019 2:03 AM, wrote:
According to:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-tech-advances

Some hard data from the FAS for the tin-foil hat crowd...

https://fas.org/sgp/othergov/invention/stats.html


I take nothing from this, other than the military likes to keep secrets.
Note higher number of "John Doe" Secrecy Orders. For these poor
schmoes, all I can do is point them here...

http://soundbible.com/grab.php?id=1830&type=mp3


Dave
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Old August 10th 19, 11:35 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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Bernie Sanders is promising to declassify the government's UFO files:

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) pledged in an interview released Tuesday that he
will tell the American public anything he learns about aliens or UFOs if elected
president next year."

See:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ens-if-elected



But I wonder if he'd have any better luck than Barry Goldwater did:

"Former presidential candidate and Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater tried, on
multiple occasions in the late 1960’s and 70’s, to gain access to certain areas
of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base but was denied access where, he alleged, the
Air Force was hiding evidence regarding flying saucers.

“I think the government does know [about UFOs]," Goldwater said in a 1994 radio
interview. "I can’t back that up, but I think that at Wright-Patterson field, if
you could get into a certain place, you’d find out what the Air Force and the
government knows about UFOs.”

“I called Curtis LeMay [Goldwater's running mate and former Air Force General]
and I said, ‘General, I know we have a room at Wright-Patterson where you put
all this secret stuff. Could I go in there?’ I’ve never heard him get mad, but
he got madder than hell at me, cussed me out, and said, ‘Don’t ever ask me that
question again!’”"

See:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/w...demand-answers
 




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