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Il giorno martedì 11 febbraio 2020 03:18:10 UTC+1, Sylvia Else ha scritto:
On 9/02/2020 11:18 pm, wrote: www.asps.it/prooooot.htm How does colonising another planet help the vast majority who must remain on Earth? Sylvia. The time needed to colonize the far rocky planets will be like the Americas years and years, if not centuries ... but meanwhile new worlds will be born and the exploitation of the earth will slowly decrease. Of course we will not see the whole history of this event as the first European inhabitants of the Americas did not see it. Meanwhile, in the medium term with outposts on the Moon and on Mars we will be able to transfer many industries and water and minerals we will collect them from the other planets of the solar system without exploiting the Earth. But I repeat the most important thing about the violation of the third principle of dynamics is in its devastating effects on the other two principles.. I realized it in about 20 years increasing, with enormous difficulties the current in the circuits pnn or increasing the thrust. I repeat that for those used to Newtonian mechanics it seems crazy…. But I didn't know this even about 10 years ago and the first granted patent of the pnn dates back to about 20 years ago. It took me a long time to understand what was happening experimentally as I was completely unprepared for the change of the other 2 principles. Now I just want to experimentally demonstrate this to some industry or funder who can protect my priorities. I will certainly not be the one who will have the most benefits from PNN. |
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On 11/02/2020 7:54 pm, wrote:
Il giorno martedì 11 febbraio 2020 03:18:10 UTC+1, Sylvia Else ha scritto: On 9/02/2020 11:18 pm, wrote: www.asps.it/prooooot.htm How does colonising another planet help the vast majority who must remain on Earth? Sylvia. The time needed to colonize the far rocky planets will be like the Americas years and years, if not centuries ... but meanwhile new worlds will be born and the exploitation of the earth will slowly decrease. Of course we will not see the whole history of this event as the first European inhabitants of the Americas did not see it. Meanwhile, in the medium term with outposts on the Moon and on Mars we will be able to transfer many industries and water and minerals we will collect them from the other planets of the solar system without exploiting the Earth. But I repeat the most important thing about the violation of the third principle of dynamics is in its devastating effects on the other two principles. I realized it in about 20 years increasing, with enormous difficulties the current in the circuits pnn or increasing the thrust. I repeat that for those used to Newtonian mechanics it seems crazy…. But I didn't know this even about 10 years ago and the first granted patent of the pnn dates back to about 20 years ago. It took me a long time to understand what was happening experimentally as I was completely unprepared for the change of the other 2 principles. Now I just want to experimentally demonstrate this to some industry or funder who can protect my priorities. I will certainly not be the one who will have the most benefits from PNN. That doesn't seem to address my question at all. Sylvia. |
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Il giorno mercoledì 12 febbraio 2020 06:24:26 UTC+1, Sylvia Else ha scritto:
On 11/02/2020 7:54 pm, wrote: Il giorno martedì 11 febbraio 2020 03:18:10 UTC+1, Sylvia Else ha scritto: On 9/02/2020 11:18 pm, wrote: www.asps.it/prooooot.htm How does colonising another planet help the vast majority who must remain on Earth? Sylvia. The time needed to colonize the far rocky planets will be like the Americas years and years, if not centuries ... but meanwhile new worlds will be born and the exploitation of the earth will slowly decrease. Of course we will not see the whole history of this event as the first European inhabitants of the Americas did not see it. Meanwhile, in the medium term with outposts on the Moon and on Mars we will be able to transfer many industries and water and minerals we will collect them from the other planets of the solar system without exploiting the Earth. But I repeat the most important thing about the violation of the third principle of dynamics is in its devastating effects on the other two principles. I realized it in about 20 years increasing, with enormous difficulties the current in the circuits pnn or increasing the thrust. I repeat that for those used to Newtonian mechanics it seems crazy…. But I didn't know this even about 10 years ago and the first granted patent of the pnn dates back to about 20 years ago. It took me a long time to understand what was happening experimentally as I was completely unprepared for the change of the other 2 principles. Now I just want to experimentally demonstrate this to some industry or funder who can protect my priorities. I will certainly not be the one who will have the most benefits from PNN. That doesn't seem to address my question at all. Sylvia. Excuse me but your question translated to the years around 1492 and addressed to Colombo, Caboto, Magellano Vespucci (and others) could be: "How does colonizing the americas help the vast majority who must remain in Europe?" An answer would be: tomatoes, potatoes, tobacco :-) That is, you say in practice that it was better for Europeans to stay in Europe and not disturb the Indians? The story went differently and one day if we colonize the universe an extraterrestrial will come to tell us comically. Why did you invade us? You could have stayed on your planet. Obviously it is assumed that the wars with extraterrestrials (the new Indians) we win :-) |
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On 12/02/2020 5:51 pm, wrote:
Il giorno mercoledì 12 febbraio 2020 06:24:26 UTC+1, Sylvia Else ha scritto: On 11/02/2020 7:54 pm, wrote: Il giorno martedì 11 febbraio 2020 03:18:10 UTC+1, Sylvia Else ha scritto: On 9/02/2020 11:18 pm, wrote: www.asps.it/prooooot.htm How does colonising another planet help the vast majority who must remain on Earth? Sylvia. The time needed to colonize the far rocky planets will be like the Americas years and years, if not centuries ... but meanwhile new worlds will be born and the exploitation of the earth will slowly decrease. Of course we will not see the whole history of this event as the first European inhabitants of the Americas did not see it. Meanwhile, in the medium term with outposts on the Moon and on Mars we will be able to transfer many industries and water and minerals we will collect them from the other planets of the solar system without exploiting the Earth. But I repeat the most important thing about the violation of the third principle of dynamics is in its devastating effects on the other two principles. I realized it in about 20 years increasing, with enormous difficulties the current in the circuits pnn or increasing the thrust. I repeat that for those used to Newtonian mechanics it seems crazy…. But I didn't know this even about 10 years ago and the first granted patent of the pnn dates back to about 20 years ago. It took me a long time to understand what was happening experimentally as I was completely unprepared for the change of the other 2 principles. Now I just want to experimentally demonstrate this to some industry or funder who can protect my priorities. I will certainly not be the one who will have the most benefits from PNN. That doesn't seem to address my question at all. Sylvia. Excuse me but your question translated to the years around 1492 and addressed to Colombo, Caboto, Magellano Vespucci (and others) could be: "How does colonizing the americas help the vast majority who must remain in Europe?" An answer would be: tomatoes, potatoes, tobacco :-) That is, you say in practice that it was better for Europeans to stay in Europe and not disturb the Indians? The story went differently and one day if we colonize the universe an extraterrestrial will come to tell us comically. Why did you invade us? You could have stayed on your planet. Obviously it is assumed that the wars with extraterrestrials (the new Indians) we win :-) Tobacco helped? There is no reasonable expectation that a food will be found on another planet. Sylvia. |
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On Wednesday, February 12, 2020 at 3:52:26 AM UTC-5, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 12/02/2020 5:51 pm, wrote: Obviously it is assumed that the wars with extraterrestrials (the new Indians) we win :-) Tobacco helped? There is no reasonable expectation that a food will be found on another planet. … or a breathable atmosphere. |
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Le Feb/12/2020 Ã* 07:00, Jeff Findley a écritÂ*:
In article , says... The TV series "The Expanse" was one of the first science fiction series depicting "human" who grew up on mars unable to function in higher gravity of Earth without period of adaptation. Yes. Evolution would likely also make such beings more and more different than humans. There are differing points of view on this topic, but I'm of the opinion (and some experts in the applicable fields agree) that modern medicine has virtually eliminated natural selection in humans. Using modern medical practices (vaccines, medicine, operations, advanced neonatal care, and etc), we save the lives of countless millions that would have otherwise died long before procreating. Therefore, humans have largely short-circuited evolution due to modern medical care. Evolution is much more than the elimination of deleterious genes. Take for example cystic fibrosis, an autosomal recessive disorder for which people afflicted 70 years ago typically lived less than a year. Therefore those with two copies of the deleterious gene couldn't pass it on to the (non existent) next generation. Today life expectancy is about 50 years and female patients have no problem conceiving. Males have more difficulty but can have biological children through artificial insemination. That means that the alleles that cause cystic fibrosis will become more frequent. The genetic makeup of humanity is changing. That is evolution. It used to be that those with two deleterious copies of the gene for the cystic fibrosis transmembrane conductance regulator (what causes cystic fibrosis) were not fit for survival. The environment has changed, they are now fit for survival, humanity evolves because of the environment change. Another example of evolution. Fertility rates and population growth in Africa is much higher than just about every where else in the world. That means that once again the genetic makeup of humanity is changing. In the future there will be more of the alleles which are more frequent in Africa. So, why would humans on Mars make this any different? Are humans on Mars going to abandon modern medicine? Why would they ever do that? If you change the environment (Mars is a different environment) it is likely that some traits will produce more offspring than others relatively to the previous environment. Evolution, in the biological sense, is not about a species developing abilities that someone thinks are better. It is not about becoming stronger, more intelligent, more beautiful... It is about survival of the fittest. If having alleles that cause cystic fibrosis works in your environment, you can evolve towards that. If a species is in an environment where being more intelligent makes it more fit, then it will evolve towards more intelligence. If a species is in an environment where being stupid makes you more fit, it will evolve towards stupidity. Alain Fournier |
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