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Usually I do not answer to such useless stuff.
But I have to mention here : 1) I do own POINCARE´s collected papers 1.1 ) contrary to MAD SCIENTIST I have read them 2) the author of the stuff written above does not seem to know what is written in P´s papers otherwise he would abstain from attributing the equation E = mc² to Poincare´. 3) I can only recommend to read P´s paper La dynamique de´l electron dealing with relativity But for this undertaking the great critziser would have to read French which is obviously something very useless for a critizising genius 4) it is true that precursors of Einstein derived similar equations ( HASENÖHRL did so ) but these contained always a factor ( 2/3 or 3/2 or 1/2 ) besides mc². 5) No scientist can be a founder and complete a theory at the same time. Not even Newtton was capable of that. 6) it is well known that LORENTZ proposed the famous contraction before Einstein. 7) So, what is this all about - a question about priorities ? Posed by an ignoramus ? 8) only equals should critizise one another so try to be greater than Einstein ( or Poincare´) 9) POINCARE´detested EINSTEIN´s work and would have strongly cried out if Einstein had taken anything from him. He just waited for such a thing. P. prevented that in France any papers on relativity were accepted for doctoral theses. Think about that. 10) Before critizising one should know a bit about the history of science. Besides studying the original papers I can strongly recommend the ARCHIVES FOR THE HISTORY OF THE EXAXT SCIENCES ( Founder TRUSEDELL ) |
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herbert wrote: Usually I do not answer to such useless stuff. Then why bother answering me. I just quoted the article and just because I posted it doesn't translate into me believing it word for word. But I have to mention here : 1) I do own POINCARE´s collected papers Good for you, but do you understand them is another question altogether. 1.1 ) contrary to MAD SCIENTIST I have read them When did I say you didn't read them? When did I say I read them? And why don't you write to the author of the paper and argue with him. 2) the author of the stuff written above does not seem to know what is written in P´s papers otherwise he would abstain from attributing the equation E = mc² to Poincare´. Ok, but it wasn't just Poincare that he said Einstein plagiarized from. 3) I can only recommend to read P´s paper La dynamique de´l electron dealing with relativity You have all the writings of Poincare? But for this undertaking the great critziser would have to read French which is obviously something very useless for a critizising genius You mean to say no one has translated his papers? OK 4) it is true that precursors of Einstein derived similar equations ( HASENÖHRL did so ) but these contained always a factor ( 2/3 or 3/2 or 1/2 ) besides mc². Rather coy admission that Einstein plagiarized. 5) No scientist can be a founder and complete a theory at the same time. Not even Newtton was capable of that. Another rather coy admission that Einstein plagiarized. 6) it is well known that LORENTZ proposed the famous contraction before Einstein. Whoever said it wasn't well known? 7) So, what is this all about - a question about priorities ? Posed by an ignoramus ? Its about the 'icon' status of Einstein. You may own Poincare's papers, but you seem to have little grasp of basic English. 8) only equals should critizise one another so try to be greater than Einstein ( or Poincare´) Hahahahaha..... now scientists are beyond 'reproach' because they are 'above the masses'. What's next a bar code on everyone's forehead except the scientists. Freedom for the few....as in Communism. 9) POINCARE´detested EINSTEIN´s work and would have strongly cried out if Einstein had taken anything from him. He just waited for such a thing. P. prevented that in France any papers on relativity were accepted for doctoral theses. Think about that. That doesn't prove anything. How do you know Poincare did say something but was silenced in the West. 10) Before critizising one should know a bit about the history of science. Before critizising a paper, one should understand the point of the paper and Poincare is not the only one who understood the famous equation that a lowly 'clerk' managed to come up with. Besides studying the original papers I can strongly recommend the ARCHIVES FOR THE HISTORY OF THE EXAXT SCIENCES ( Founder TRUSEDELL ) Does that include the history of how Tesla's papers were stolen and archived in a secret vault and how his patents were also stolen? I doubt it. |
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"Mad Scientist" wrote in message et.cable.rogers.com... herbert wrote: Usually I do not answer to such useless stuff. Then why bother answering me. Because you posted crap, and so Herbert's post corrects it, and shows it for the crap it is. I just quoted the article and just because I posted it doesn't translate into me believing it word for word. Then why did you post it in the first place? Or is it you just like the sound of your own voice? I realise you will claim you were expressing an opinion. Do you often express opinions you don't actually beleive in? Can we assume that you don't actually beleive anything you post? But I have to mention here : 1) I do own POINCARE´s collected papers Good for you, but do you understand them is another question altogether. 1.1 ) contrary to MAD SCIENTIST I have read them When did I say you didn't read them? When did I say I read them? And why don't you write to the author of the paper and argue with him. Just admit you hadn't read them, you had not investigated or checked what you were posting, and you never check your sources. 2) the author of the stuff written above does not seem to know what is written in P´s papers otherwise he would abstain from attributing the equation E = mc² to Poincare´. Ok, but it wasn't just Poincare that he said Einstein plagiarized from. 3) I can only recommend to read P´s paper La dynamique de´l electron dealing with relativity You have all the writings of Poincare? But for this undertaking the great critziser would have to read French which is obviously something very useless for a critizising genius You mean to say no one has translated his papers? OK 4) it is true that precursors of Einstein derived similar equations ( HASENÖHRL did so ) but these contained always a factor ( 2/3 or 3/2 or 1/2 ) besides mc². Rather coy admission that Einstein plagiarized. 5) No scientist can be a founder and complete a theory at the same time. Not even Newtton was capable of that. Another rather coy admission that Einstein plagiarized. So are you saying you beleive Einstein plagiarised? Or is it that you just cannot iunderstand basic science? 6) it is well known that LORENTZ proposed the famous contraction before Einstein. Whoever said it wasn't well known? 7) So, what is this all about - a question about priorities ? Posed by an ignoramus ? Its about the 'icon' status of Einstein. You may own Poincare's papers, but you seem to have little grasp of basic English. Wheras you haven't even a basic grasp of logic. 8) only equals should critizise one another so try to be greater than Einstein ( or Poincare´) Hahahahaha..... now scientists are beyond 'reproach' because they are 'above the masses'. What's next a bar code on everyone's forehead except the scientists. Freedom for the few....as in Communism. 9) POINCARE´detested EINSTEIN´s work and would have strongly cried out if Einstein had taken anything from him. He just waited for such a thing. P. prevented that in France any papers on relativity were accepted for doctoral theses. Think about that. That doesn't prove anything. How do you know Poincare did say something but was silenced in the West. 10) Before critizising one should know a bit about the history of science. Before critizising a paper, one should understand the point of the paper and Poincare is not the only one who understood the famous equation that a lowly 'clerk' managed to come up with. Besides studying the original papers I can strongly recommend the ARCHIVES FOR THE HISTORY OF THE EXAXT SCIENCES ( Founder TRUSEDELL ) Does that include the history of how Tesla's papers were stolen and archived in a secret vault and how his patents were also stolen? I doubt it. Oh, so now you beleive Tesla's stuff is in a sekrit vault? If it's sekrit, how come you can claim there is one, fool? |
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Einstien stood on the shoulders of great thinkers. He put their thoughts
together with excellent math,and clarity. GR,and the equivalent principle I give him alone great credit for. Keep in mind he should have received three Nobels. Keep in mind he was told not to make a fool out of himself mentioning SR,or GR by the Nobel committee Bert |
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Read this month's Scientific American,and it will amaze you how very
cleaver thinker Einstein was. He even invented a refrigerator with no moving parts. His thinking influenced such devices as solar energy.GPS units,digital cameras,lasers,DVD players,and lots more. Einstein's thinking literally opened doors for us. Bert |
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Read this month's Scientific American,and it will amaze you how very
cleaver thinker Einstein was. He even invented a refrigerator with no moving parts. His thinking influenced such devices as solar energy.GPS units,digital cameras,lasers,DVD players,and lots more. Einstein's thinking literally opened doors for us. Bert |
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nightbat wrote
G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote: Read this month's Scientific American,and it will amaze you how very cleaver thinker Einstein was. He even invented a refrigerator with no moving parts. His thinking influenced such devices as solar energy.GPS units,digital cameras,lasers,DVD players,and lots more. Einstein's thinking literally opened doors for us. Bert nightbat Give a link so they can follow-up on the net Bert. Here's mine so the readers can get more info about all the interesting articles. See:http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomfr...archive.org%2F Ha, ha, and my " Black Comet " on the net opened all the barn doors wide open. ponder on, the nightbat |
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message ... Read this month's Scientific American,and it will amaze you how very cleaver thinker Einstein was. He even invented a refrigerator with no moving parts. His thinking influenced such devices as solar energy.GPS units,digital cameras,lasers,DVD players,and lots more. Einstein's thinking literally opened doors for us. Bert No moving parts? How do you get the stuff out if theres no door? --------------------------------------- Please don't feed the Troll http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killf..._troll_faq.htm |
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Hi nightbat don't know how to create a "link" You being a
county folk you iknow more about barn doors. being a Wal-Mart big city person I only know of seeing eye doors that work on the principle of Einstein"s "photo electric effect" Bert |
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