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Old October 30th 06, 08:06 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jim Klein
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Question,

If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
taking a Civil Service Exam. ?

Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
?

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.

Krupp has been director for 33 years.

I have three phrases for this,

Boss Tweed

Tamany Hall

Disgusting Abuse of Power

Jim Klein

Guide, GO 1966-1968
Part Time Photographer 1970-1974





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Old October 30th 06, 08:39 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Simmons
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:06:14 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.


The City of LA did not provide all of the $93 million for the renovation
work. They provided $26.4 million. The county provided more through a
bond measure approved by the voters, the state provided a little and the
rest came from private donations including about $30 million raised by
Friends of the Observatory, $1 million from Leanoard Nimoy and more.

Many of us believe that Griffith Observatory is important enough to
renovate and improve whether it returns all of the expenditure in a short
time or not. The original donor of the funds for the observatory felt the
same way and his investment has paid off many times over in non-monetary
ways.

Mike Simmons
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Old October 30th 06, 10:00 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Jim Klein wrote:
Question,

If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
taking a Civil Service Exam. ?

Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
?

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.

Krupp has been director for 33 years.

I have three phrases for this,

Boss Tweed

Tamany Hall

Disgusting Abuse of Power

Jim Klein

Guide, GO 1966-1968
Part Time Photographer 1970-1974





James E. Klein


Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com

Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121




This makes three times you have posted material attacking various
people in leadership positions at the Griffitn Observatory.

I don't even know where the Griffith Observatory is but it sounds too
me as though you must have been fired for incompetence and now you're
****ing and moaning about the people who fired you.

Go tell it to the chaplain -- maybe he'll give a ****.

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Old October 30th 06, 10:30 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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One of the good sized donors was Mr. Spock from S.T. Himself.


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"Mike Simmons" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:06:14 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.


The City of LA did not provide all of the $93 million for the renovation
work. They provided $26.4 million. The county provided more through a
bond measure approved by the voters, the state provided a little and the
rest came from private donations including about $30 million raised by
Friends of the Observatory, $1 million from Leanoard Nimoy and more.

Many of us believe that Griffith Observatory is important enough to
renovate and improve whether it returns all of the expenditure in a short
time or not. The original donor of the funds for the observatory felt the
same way and his investment has paid off many times over in non-monetary
ways.

Mike Simmons



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Old October 30th 06, 11:07 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
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"Starlord" wrote in news:rs-
:

One of the good sized donors was Mr. Spock from S.T. Himself.



Mike mentioned that.

Klazmon.
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Old October 30th 06, 11:35 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jan Owen[_1_]
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"Mike Simmons" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:06:14 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.


The City of LA did not provide all of the $93 million for the renovation
work. They provided $26.4 million. The county provided more through a
bond measure approved by the voters, the state provided a little and the
rest came from private donations including about $30 million raised by
Friends of the Observatory, $1 million from Leanoard Nimoy and more.

Many of us believe that Griffith Observatory is important enough to
renovate and improve whether it returns all of the expenditure in a short
time or not. The original donor of the funds for the observatory felt the
same way and his investment has paid off many times over in non-monetary
ways.

Mike Simmons


Thanks for the REAL info, Mike...

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Old October 31st 06, 12:19 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jim Klein
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I quite in 1975 because I could not work for of the crooked people who
were running both it and the department of parks and recreation.

I was not fired.

Never been fired from any job in my life.

They tried to fire the secretary when she blew the wistle on Kaufman
for dipping his fingers into the petty cash fund, but they were not
able to do so so. Then they put Kaufman on a one year paid leave or
absence after which Krupp was moved in.

Sounds like you are a Kruppy.

You can believe anything you want to believe about the place. Then
again, you were not there, I was.

So the citizens are not out the whole 93 mil. Considering the lack of
infrastructure in L.A., I'd say they could have used the money better
patching pot holes in the street or hiring more police.

Jim




Jim Klein wrote:
Question,

If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
taking a Civil Service Exam. ?

Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
?

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.

Krupp has been director for 33 years.

I have three phrases for this,

Boss Tweed

Tamany Hall

Disgusting Abuse of Power

Jim Klein

Guide, GO 1966-1968
Part Time Photographer 1970-1974





James E. Klein


Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com

Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121




This makes three times you have posted material attacking various
people in leadership positions at the Griffitn Observatory.

I don't even know where the Griffith Observatory is but it sounds too
me as though you must have been fired for incompetence and now you're
****ing and moaning about the people who fired you.

Go tell it to the chaplain -- maybe he'll give a ****.


James E. Klein


Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com

Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
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Old October 31st 06, 04:11 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jim Klein
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There are a lot of really bad vibes at the G. O. and have been for
many years.

Probably because of the worker's ghost that is burried in the
building, during the cement pour of 1933. A worker disappeared during
the original construction and the place has been in a state of unrest
ever since.

There have been reports of hauntings, generally after 10 pm, on Monday
nights since 1933. The City of L.A. has been covering it up ever
since.

Krupp has been in contact with the Druids trying to get rid of the
ghost but to no avail. There have been many reported "happenings" at
the G. O. The place has been in a state of psychic unrest for many
years.

Why do you think they closed it for so many years? It certainly was
not to paint the place. There have been over 20 seers there trying to
get rid of the evil spirits there. They finally gave up.

The observatory always closes at exactly 10 pm. This keeps the pubic
from frinding out about the G. O.'s dark secrets.

On October 31, 1971 while I was the part time photographer, I
personally saw the ghost in the hall of science. It floated above the
Solar telescope window. It was very upset and it spoke to me. It was
very scary.

I had a witness with me but she refuses to testify.

Jim the photographer, G. O. 1970-1975



Jim Klein wrote:

Question,

If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
taking a Civil Service Exam. ?

Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
?

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.

Krupp has been director for 33 years.

I have three phrases for this,

Boss Tweed

Tamany Hall

Disgusting Abuse of Power

Jim Klein

Guide, GO 1966-1968
Part Time Photographer 1970-1974





James E. Klein


Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com

Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121


James E. Klein


Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com

Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
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Old October 31st 06, 04:17 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Matthew Ota[_1_]
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There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
his tenure there.
As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
complain.

Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.

It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."

Matthew Ota
totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
admirer.

Jim Klein wrote:
Question,

If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
taking a Civil Service Exam. ?

Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
?

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.

Krupp has been director for 33 years.

I have three phrases for this,

Boss Tweed

Tamany Hall

Disgusting Abuse of Power

Jim Klein

Guide, GO 1966-1968
Part Time Photographer 1970-1974





James E. Klein


Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com

Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121


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Old October 31st 06, 04:32 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jim Klein
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"Matthew Ota" wrote:

There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
his tenure there.
As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
complain.


Bull ****. Now is exactly the time to tell the god's honst truth about
how he has mistreated his employees.

Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.


Go buy an astronomy text book and learn to read and do integral
calculus dip ****.

It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."


Krupp made so many people miserable and if I ever find out who lit his
hamburger candle, I will take that person out to a 4 star dinner at
the restauraunt of their choice.

Matthew Ota
totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
admirer.


You sir, are a fool and a jerk. The city of LA has been using the G.O.
to launder illegal money for years and propably will continue to do so
when our grand childeren are living in LA.

But then again, I might be wrong. Who is to say ?

Jim Klein wrote:
Question,

If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
taking a Civil Service Exam. ?

Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
?

The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.

Krupp has been director for 33 years.

I have three phrases for this,

Boss Tweed

Tamany Hall

Disgusting Abuse of Power

Jim Klein

Guide, GO 1966-1968
Part Time Photographer 1970-1974





James E. Klein


Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com

Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121


James E. Klein


Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com

Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
 




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