Worthy of survival

Citizen Bob wrote:
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:29:32 -0500, Bob Kolker
wrote:

Your buddies at NASA

I don't know anyone at NASA - never did except for a brief summer job.

If it weren't for NASA there would be a lot more white-collar crime.
Those bright engineers have to be kept busy. NASA is no different from
the Egyptian pharaos building pyramids.

And when anyone goes to Egypt today, what is the first place they want
to see? Sure isn't anything that they are doing today.


But ultimately the reason for its existence is to service the
Military.

NASA is not supposed to be. But if it has folks like Kolker, who
blindly support the DOD, into thinking it is, then fine.

Eric



--

"Nothing in the world can take the place of perseverence. Talent
will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education
will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and
determination alone are omnipotent."
--Calvin Coolidge

Bob Kolker wrote:
Citizen Bob wrote:

But ultimately the reason for its existence is to service the
Military.

That sounds like the only legal justification for funding the agency.

Right, you just keep believing that.

Now, tell me the justification of NOAA and then tell me where that is
in the Constitution. Be very careful how you answer because I am about
to catch you in a trap of your own making.

Eric


Bob Kolker

Fred J. McCall wrote:
(Citizen Bob) wrote:

:Fascists come with the office, not the man who occupies it. Absolute
ower corrupts once honest men absolutely. That's why throughout
:recorded history, govt has been the root of all evil. Anyone who
:doesn't believe that GW Bush knew in advance about 911 is naive beyond
:description. And he was one of the most honest men ever to become
:President.
:
:NASA is a thinly-disguised defense project. You have completely left
:that fundamental component out of your diatribes. Positioning a manned
:weapons system in space is crucial to modern warfare.
:
:You didn't really expect the govt to confide in you regarding the real
urposes of NASA, did you?

Given the preceding, you're obviously merely insane.

Goodbye.

plonk

Way too early, Fred. Didn't you want to elaborate on that real purpose?
I mean he must KNOW. Why not let him divulge it?

Eric


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

Bob Kolker wrote:
Clell Harmon wrote:

Of course you might be right. Just like the old learned men who
said that we'd never get to the moon, break the sound barrier, That a
man's blood would boil at speeds over 40 mph, and that steam ships could
never carry enough fuel to cross the Atlantic.

Yeah. We got to the moon 37 years ago and we have not been back since
1972. Big ****ing Deal. What came of it? A few laser reflectors on the
surface and the print of an astronauts boot. Some legacy.

Yes it is! We did it and when someone else does it, it'll make our
initial accomplishment even more great.

Eric


Bob Kolker

Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:
: 3. If we must go further Out the moon is an ideal supply shed and
: assembly area. It has a much shallower gravity well than does earth.
:
:So does Mars and Mars has an atmosphere, the Moon doesn't.

Yes, and that's another reason to prefer the Moon to Mars. Mars
doesn't have enough atmosphere to be useful (around 6-8 mBar at
surface) but it's enough to get in the way and degrade optical work.

But maybe plants will grow given the CO2? What is the inherent
advantage to optics on Mars over the Moon? None? Then why bring it up?

Eric


--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

Bob Kolker wrote:
Citizen Bob wrote:

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:43:57 -0500, Bob Kolker
wrote:


Eric Chomko wrote:

And also the father of psychoanalysis.

Which is a fraud, a scam and a psuedoscience.

Oh Doktor Freud, Herr Doktor Freud
How we wish you had been differently employed
Instead of fiddling with neurosis
You could have cured sclerosis
Oh what a waste Herr Doktor Freud.


Freud was a physician, a neurologist, before he became a psychiatrist.

He was mistreated in France because he was Jewish, so he found a way
to get even with the Frogs - invent this scheme whereby he can declare
that they are all crazy.

He didn't live in France. He lived in Wien (Vienna), the capital city of
the Austro-Hungarian empire. We went to Paris to study with Charcot in
the treatment of hysterical symptoms. Charcot was using hypnosis to
treat hysterical symptoms and from that service with Charcot, Freud
invented his notion of the subconscious mind.

Yes it is true that Freud suffered from the effects of anti-semitism in
the A.H. empire as many Jews did. Einstein ultimately suffered the same
kind of abuse in Germany and had to leave. Be this as it may, it does
not excuse or explain how Herr Doktor Freud became the guru and poobah
of a cult. His circle of adherents and acolytes to his theories of the
subconscious mind (empirically untestable) became his Very Own Gang and
he did not tolerate any sort of disagreements from "his" people. That is
how a bitter split arose between him and his followers and Adler and
Jung. Freud for a set of complex reasons used his talent to create a
quasi-religion and cult from which the world still suffers.

Well tell me, how does the id, ego and superego all fit into this on a
global scale?


The fact that the Frogs are crazy went a long way in helping Freud
establish his theories. He would have been driving a taxi in any other
culture for lack of work.

Not only the Frogs, but the Vienese. The Jews who lived in Vienna very
often become neurotic and the goyim were not far behind. It was the
goyim who welcomed Hitler with open arms and cheering when the Anschluss
happened. If you want to see a dark vision of the life of those times
read -Metapmorphisis- by Franz Kafka a Jungerian Hew.


Kafka had a for famous story didn't he?

Eric

Bob Kolker

Rand Simberg wrote:
On 19 Oct 2006 10:23:53 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:

No, we didn't. Many Arabs remain in Israel, and are treated better
there than in any Arab regime (including the ability to vote and be in
the Knesset).

I'd like to hear that from a Arab resident than from an American with
Jewish ancestry.

Who cares what you'd like to hear, or from whom?

You, because you responded.


It's an objective fact.

You are going to claim that all Arabs in Israel feel the same way? Even
stupid, even for you.


Of those who left, it was because the other Arab
nations told them to pack up and get out, on the promise that they'd
be able to come back after the war, when all the Jews had been killed
or thrown out. It didn't work out that well, in 1948, 1956, or (worst
of all) 1967. They continue to keep the refugees in camps as a pawn
in their ongoing war against Israel, instead of simply integrating
them into their society.

Integrating? How does a Muslim integrate into a Jewish state?

The way they have. There is complete freedom of religion in Israel,
unlike most of the rest of the Middle East.

Then why does everyone call Israel a Jewish state?

There is no such thing as a "Palestinian." They're just Arabs.

Yes, I think it is the "just Arabs" comment that tends to **** them
off. Then there is the addition of not being worth the fingernail of a
Jew (actually said by a rabbi), that doesn't help as well.

Do you somehow how feel that 17 million Jews are worth the same or more
than 1.3 billion Muslims, all else being equal?

No, you moron.

C'mon Rand, expand on
your "just Arabs" comment.

There's no need.

punt

That's what you really mean.

Eric

Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote:

:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "Eric Chomko" wrote:
:
: :
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : "Eric Chomko" wrote:
: :
: : :
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : (Citizen Bob) wrote:
: : :
: : : :On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:22:04 GMT, Fred J. McCall
: : : wrote:
: : : :
: : : ::"To establish Post Offices and post Roads"
: : : :
: : : ::Yeah, the Post Office needs Interstate highways. LOL.
: : : :
: : : :A 'post road' would be any road used to transport mail. Is it your
: : : :claim that mail between cities has never traveled on an Interstate
: : : :highway?
: : : :
: : : :I just love your perverted logic.
: : :
: : : You apparently wouldn't know 'logic' is someone rammed some up your
: : : ass so it was right in front of your eyes.
: : :
: : : :Try it this way: If the govt never built Interstate highways, the Post
: : : :Office would have to use private ones. Your perverted logic is to
: : : :assume that there would be no highways if the govt did not build them.
: : :
: : : I see. So you can't read OR reason.
: : :
: : : I guess that finishes that.
: : :
: : : ::****ing troll.
: : : :
: : : :Yes, you are. Now go read the bloody thing before you say any more
: : : :stupid things.
: : : :
: : : :yawn
: : :
: : : Doesn't it hurt your asshole when you open your mouth that wide, what
: : : with your head being impacted and all?
: : :
: : oes your mother know you act like this? Wait, I bet like Tom DeLay,
: : :you don't even speak to your mother, right?
: :
: : If my mother had had any children as stupid as you are she would have
: : drowned them at birth.
: :
: :Your mother is a duck? That's what ducks do...
:
: Your mother is stupider than a duck? Well, at least we know where you
: get it from.
:
:My mother was third in her class (Magna Cum Laude), ...

There were three ducks in your mother's class?

Nope, a whole university of human beings.


:... so you have nothing
:there. Did your mother even go to college, McClod?

Yes, dear boy, and she did it in Europe a long time ago, back when
college actually meant something.

It still means something like it did whn my mother went 55 years ago.

: : So, did your parents have any children that lived?
: :
: :All of them and doing well...
:
: That's good. They deserve some successes after you.
:
:You have no idea...

snicker

Yeah, you do that a lot. You retarded?

: o your children even speak to you?
:
: What makes you think I have children, El Chimpo?
:
:Yes, refreshing. The thought of you procreating is unnerving.

I don't think about you procreating at all. It doesn't surprise me,
though, that you are the sort of pervert who would think about me.

Yep, another fool that confuses sex with procreation. Are you a fundi,
McClod?

: Of course, you could return the favour and wonder why I think you have
: parents, too.
:
:Huh, well one was Cadet Colonel of the ROTC and the other Magna Cum
:Laude, and all I got was a lowly Computer Science degree from the same
:university.

Oh, I see. You were a legacy and the school was obligated to get you
through....

Nope, I got myself through, three times. 2 BSs and 1 MS. I have nearly
200 credit hours. Do you even have 120?

:P.S. Eactly how much salt water did you swallow while you were in the
:Navy?

Is that supposed to mean something? No doubt you fantasize about a
'taste test' to get an answer....

:P.S.S. My mom's favorite president is Jefferson, and writer, Nietzsche.
:I mention it because YOU like to quote both.

You trying to fix me up with your mother, now?

You wouldn't qualify to be her garbage man.

Eric

--
"Adrenaline is like exercise, but without the excessive gym fees."
-- Professor Walsh, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"

On 23 Oct 2006 10:03:00 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:


Rand Simberg wrote:
On 19 Oct 2006 10:23:53 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:

No, we didn't. Many Arabs remain in Israel, and are treated better
there than in any Arab regime (including the ability to vote and be in
the Knesset).

I'd like to hear that from a Arab resident than from an American with
Jewish ancestry.

Who cares what you'd like to hear, or from whom?

You, because you responded.


It's an objective fact.

You are going to claim that all Arabs in Israel feel the same way?

No.

Integrating? How does a Muslim integrate into a Jewish state?

The way they have. There is complete freedom of religion in Israel,
unlike most of the rest of the Middle East.

Then why does everyone call Israel a Jewish state?

Because it is. It's possible to have freedom of religion in a Jewish
state.

Rand Simberg wrote:
On 17 Oct 2006 10:04:35 -0700, in a place far, far away, "Eric Chomko"
made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:

Do you believe every single 9/11 highjacker did what they did for
purely religious reasons? 72 virgins all in the name of Allah?

Yes.

Yep, all your enenies think alike where all your friends are
individuals.

No, you moron. Go argue with whoever is putting the voices in your
head, instead of pretending I said something I didn't.

Argue? You must first possess an intellect to argue. Throwing your
opinion around like a kid does stones is what you do. You're a fraud.

Eric