Empiricism Was Not Well-Liked in the Past

In a search for books on a completely different topic on the Internet Archive, I
happened to come across, as one of my results, this book

https://archive.org/details/newmaterialismdi00bealiala

rejoicing in the title

The New Materialism: Dictatorial Scientific Utterances and the Decline of Thought

At least one frequent poster in this newsgroup might possibly enjoy the book,
although numerous others here also, apparently, believe that thought has gone
into a decline because the utterance by the scientific community that
anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions are leading to undesirable warming of the
global climate is being uncritically accepted by many...

John Savard

Quadibloc wrote:
In a search for books on a completely different topic on the Internet Archive, I
happened to come across, as one of my results, this book

https://archive.org/details/newmaterialismdi00bealiala

rejoicing in the title

The New Materialism: Dictatorial Scientific Utterances and the Decline of Thought

At least one frequent poster in this newsgroup might possibly enjoy the book,
although numerous others here also, apparently, believe that thought has gone
into a decline because the utterance by the scientific community that
anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions are leading to undesirable warming of the
global climate is being uncritically accepted by many...

John Savard

Yes the whole paper has a familiar ring to it.

If only he could have listened to Brian Cox in the Infinite Monkey Cage!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b02ykcwh

On 6/13/2015 10:25 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
In a search for books on a completely different topic on the Internet Archive, I
happened to come across, as one of my results, this book

https://archive.org/details/newmaterialismdi00bealiala

rejoicing in the title

The New Materialism: Dictatorial Scientific Utterances and the Decline of Thought

At least one frequent poster in this newsgroup might possibly enjoy the book,
although numerous others here also, apparently, believe that thought has gone
into a decline because the utterance by the scientific community that
anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions are leading to undesirable warming of the
global climate is being uncritically accepted by many...

John Savard

Alas, it has always been this way

Lavoisier, aka the father of modern chemistry, recognized this in his
highly regarded "Preface" to Elements of Chemistry".

Hume discussed the general case in his discussion on "The Academical
Principle"

Both of these men were "around" at the beginning of the age of
enlightenment....The decline started very shortly thereafter...

On Saturday, 13 June 2015 20:55:45 UTC+2, David Staup wrote:

Both of these men were "around" at the beginning of the age of
enlightenment....The decline started very shortly thereafter...

Are you not one of the perpetrators of mass delusion regarding the prostrate fawning to some over-creative, imaginary deity. One with a unique [and very unlikely] interest in but a small fraction of the babbling hordes of one particular mudball? One amongst an almost infinite number of other mudballs. All [allegedly] modelled with Her own bare hands with such an apparent lack of innate talent. So many trials, without even one [known] success, strongly suggests that fallibility is, by far, Her strongest suit. It might even lead to a charge of downright laxness or lack of real purpose. i.e. The deity quickly became bored after the first few mudballs and thus, the supposed creativity, rapidly became forced, unrelenting or [dare I say it] even slapdash? Or, some other fantastical variation on dwarves, elves and fairies which precludes all responsibility for one's own actions and responsibilities towards others on a dying world.

Creativity is, by default, the beginning of the end. The only important question is what do you do with your allotted time not spent on your muddied knees? So much to be accomplished. So little time spent usefully. Take away sleep, meals, toilet and bathroom visits, travelling from A to a lesser b, basic cleaning and grooming tasks and it all adds up to yet another wasted opportunity to fix the obvious design flaws in this little mudball.

So little can be accomplished from a kneeling position, particularly with one's eyes closed to all reason, that is is usually reserved for slaves and servants. Normally in backward dictatorships of the past but there are those, even today, who enjoy a nice bit of anxious fawning. No man, nor deity remotely worthy of respect, would ever have another so deliberately crippled into inaction to save themselves from the sky falling. If god had really needed yes men She would surely have given women the task of building and running the entire universe? They are the only ones too sensible to be taken in by the snake oil salesmen of the local branch of the latest [and greatest] afterlife insurance, pyramid scam.

What possible use is a yes man when you need the real truth about anything at all? If your god asked you if her bum looked big in this universe would She be satisfied with an ingratiating lie? It's no wonder the universe is so badly built! She couldn't even get the rings right on one tiny planet circling one insignificant star amongst countless billions of others. How many other hidden faults are we going to find as we lift up our heads, brush off our muddy knees and finally open our eyes to the most humongous cock-up ever imagined?

On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 10:25:26 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
In a search for books on a completely different topic on the Internet Archive, I
happened to come across, as one of my results, this book

https://archive.org/details/newmaterialismdi00bealiala

rejoicing in the title

The New Materialism: Dictatorial Scientific Utterances and the Decline of Thought

At least one frequent poster in this newsgroup might possibly enjoy the book,
although numerous others here also, apparently, believe that thought has gone
into a decline because the utterance by the scientific community that
anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions are leading to undesirable warming of the
global climate is being uncritically accepted by many...

John Savard

The US came out of WWII convinced that it was charged with running the world by divine right. It was a ruinous mindset.

Today we lock up more people than any other country. Overcharging by prosecutors has nearly nullified the right to jury trial. Unusually high bails are being used to suppress dissent. Nearly all the wealth (85%) is in the hands of only one fifth of the people. And that money buys a substantial number of governors, legislator and presidential candidates. That money not only buys votes, it simultaneously works to suppress the popular vote and (via gerrymandering) to make it as pointless as possible.Meanwhile, it conspires to privatize everything possible so that it can, effectively, tax it for personal gain.

While we were somnolent and acquiescing to this gradual new order, many of our institutions became vitiated and hollowed out. Higher education is one of those. Half who go to college, including a quarter of grads, have made a big mistake; they will never monetize the experience and, even if they don't go into debt, the financial drain largely consigns them to the 75% of Americans who have essentially no net worth. Equally insidious, per the WSJ, most colleges today don't require any courses in history, economics or foreign language while, at median, American college grads suck at math, ranking only 12th of 16 for math. Fewer and fewer can get into real business schools that require high GMAT scores.

On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:11:17 -0700 (PDT), Uncarollo2
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On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 10:25:26 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
In a search for books on a completely different topic on the Internet Archive, I
happened to come across, as one of my results, this book

https://archive.org/details/newmaterialismdi00bealiala

rejoicing in the title

The New Materialism: Dictatorial Scientific Utterances and the Decline of Thought

At least one frequent poster in this newsgroup might possibly enjoy the book,
although numerous others here also, apparently, believe that thought has gone
into a decline because the utterance by the scientific community that
anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions are leading to undesirable warming of the
global climate is being uncritically accepted by many...

John Savard

The US came out of WWII convinced that it was charged
with running the world by divine right. It was a ruinous mindset.

Total nonsense. Other crap deleted.


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On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 8:16:23 AM UTC-5, Lord Vath wrote:

On Saturday, June 13, 2015 at 10:25:26 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
In a search for books on a completely different topic on the Internet Archive, I
happened to come across, as one of my results, this book

https://archive.org/details/newmaterialismdi00bealiala

rejoicing in the title

The New Materialism: Dictatorial Scientific Utterances and the Decline of Thought

At least one frequent poster in this newsgroup might possibly enjoy the book,
although numerous others here also, apparently, believe that thought has gone
into a decline because the utterance by the scientific community that
anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions are leading to undesirable warming of the
global climate is being uncritically accepted by many...

John Savard

The US came out of WWII convinced that it was charged
with running the world by divine right. It was a ruinous mindset.

Total nonsense. Other crap deleted.


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You're right! Lord Vath is total nonsense. Lord Vath deleted!

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 1:11:19 AM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Nearly all the wealth (85%) is in the hands of only one fifth of the people.

Are YOU part of that "one fifth?"

Equally insidious, per the WSJ, most colleges today don't require any courses
in history, economics or foreign language edit

That's probably just as well since most of that course work is useless for finding a job. Native speakers of a foreign language are more likely to be hired for a job requiring that language anyway, AEBE.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:23:06 -0700 (PDT), wrote
this crap:

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 at 1:11:19 AM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:

Nearly all the wealth (85%) is in the hands of only one fifth of the people.

Are YOU part of that "one fifth?"

Equally insidious, per the WSJ, most colleges today don't require any courses
in history, economics or foreign language edit

That's probably just as well since most of that course work is useless
for finding a job.

Seriously, after I left college and was hired as an engineer, I found
that most of my courses were useless. Actually the most benefit I got
from college was ROTC.



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On 6/18/15 8:23 AM, wrote:
That's probably just as well since most of that course work is useless for finding a job.
Where did you get the idea that college is about finding a job?