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"Ami Silberman" wrote in message ... Well, you know next to nothing about D&D. What are some of these "real consequences for innocent bystanders"? Other than occasional soft-drink spills and a penchant of gamers to fail to clean up after themselves, I can't say that I've seen any. (All the "Satanic Murder" stories etc. have been pretty well debunked.) I've seen as many people drop out of school or disrupt their love lives with bridge, model rocketry, and sports as I have with role-playing games, and I've been playing them for close to 30 years now. Hey, I think I gained weight playing D&D.. That's one side effect. As for those "Satanic Murder" stories go... as my grandfather pointed out 15-20 years back... just because screwed up people play D&D doesn't mean D&D caused them to be screwed up. He realized that correlation is not causation. Actually, I think my aunt and uncle and my cousin's friend's parents should thank me for introducing their kids to D&D. Where else would they have learned about some of the concepts of ecology, physics, math, logic, etc that I introduced into the game. Ami Silberman wrote: |
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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:19:34 -0400, "Ami Silberman" wrote: Well, you know next to nothing about D&D. ...Actually, Tunnels & Trolls was a lot more fun. Especially when you consider that only D6's were used, and it was easy to get involved in massive dice roll wars with 44-oz cups full of cheap gambling dice thrown on tables that required 2-3 minutes to determine whether or not you just beat the **** out of your opponent enough to earn a right to tumble in the furs for a night with his favorite mistress :-) Friend of mine developed an undead game... any battle role was a d4, d6, d10 and I think a d20. All had their place and it made combat fairly quick and easy. |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 03:28:36 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote: Friend of mine developed an undead game... any battle role was a d4, d6, d10 and I think a d20. All had their place and it made combat fairly quick and easy. ....Best version of D&D I've ever seen, tho, was the one where a golf ball was done up as one of Lou Zocchi's hundred-sided dice. You went out on the course, played nine holes, and each hit of the ball determined which monster you fought. If you survived, you played on to finish the hole, which determined how much treasure & XP you gained which was also modified by how much under or over par you scored for that hole. It was the only version of D&D I've ever seen where you got exercise while playing ;-) OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 03:26:39 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote: As for those "Satanic Murder" stories go... as my grandfather pointed out 15-20 years back... just because screwed up people play D&D doesn't mean D&D caused them to be screwed up. He realized that correlation is not causation. ....What we found back in my college days, when UAGS took over most of the older buildings on Wednesday nights, was that RPGs tend to allow the really whacked-out societal rejects the opportunity to interact with others without having to be part of real life society. The problem there is that once they're allowed into the game, they tend to either dominate it and/or ruin it for the normal people because normal people don't take RPG playing seriously. Which, IMHO, is one of the reasons EverCrack is so popular. These loony-toons can now perform the same faux life activities without actually physically having to deal with people in real-life environments. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:22:44 -0400, "Scott Hedrick"
wrote: PAD took delight in saying that, the day after Gene was dropped in the hole, Arnold was given a box and told he'd be escorted off the property. ....According to Vardaman, it went more like this. The day they reported to work after the funeral, nobody was speaking to them at all. They suspected something was up, but couldn't figure out what. The mailroom hadn't even sent up his mail as they did every morning, and nobody was returning his calls. The two went to lunch, came back and were stopped by security who informed them they had five minutes to pack their things. Then, after they packed up what they could, Arnold wasn't allowed to take the box because it was suspected he was walking off with Paranoidmount property. After one of the guards agreed to take two minutes to look through the box, Arnold was allowed to leave with what apparently was his personal belongings in a much emptier box. According to one report, he'd had a first-season TNG dustbuster phaser, a couple of other nondescript Feinberger-type props, a lot of early draft scripts, and some other minor props, all no doubt intended for sale at conventions. ....Last I saw, the powertripping scumbag was hawking Trekkie bait & other paraphenalia on one of the Home Shopping channels, and was still as obnoxious as ever. I kept hoping PAD would call in during the call-in portion of the show so he could laugh at his current predicament. OM -- "No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society - General George S. Patton, Jr |
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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
... You *claim* to know better, but you seem to be unable to demonstrate that you know better. This indicates a troll. To me, it indicates a Maxson unit in drag and excessive makeup. -- Alan Erskine We can get people to the Moon in five years, not the fifteen GWB proposes. Give NASA a real challenge |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 10:37:00 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
wrote: "Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... You *claim* to know better, but you seem to be unable to demonstrate that you know better. This indicates a troll. To me, it indicates a Maxson unit in drag and excessive makeup. I'm splitting hairs here, but to me, a troll is someone who posts nonsense only because he/she enjoys watching the resulting mayhem. I suspect LaDonna sincerely believes what she's saying. It's been amazing to watch her arrogantly assert things that are so blatantly wrong. I haven't been following all that closely, but didn't she say you could hot-fire hypergolic thrusters without any fuel? The only thing I engaged her in was the question of whether or not the crew died so that we would have the right to post on usenet, as she repeatedly asserted. I actually was hoping she'd come up with a rational argument. It's probably not that difficult, if you want to be very broadly philosophical about it. If she studies hard, she could someday aspire to become a troll Dale |
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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote in message news I kept hoping PAD would call in during the call-in portion of the show so he could laugh at his current predicament. I've written a couple of moderately successful books, and a string of articles. I'm a writer. PAD is in a category by himself, approaching Asimov in capacity. When PAd says he's a writer, a light shines from above and a chorus chimes. The dude types 120 words per minute. I saw him at a convention, where he was going to read a chapter from what turned out to be "Imzadi". He'd written it the night before. The next day, he was going to read the next chapter (and did), which he wrote after partying until well into the morning. The chapters printed were almost word for word what he'd read. He was heavier then, and had a pony tail. As he pointed out, he doesn't exactly look like professional secretary material, but at 120 words per minute, he'll never lack for a job. Saw him at DragonCon 2001. He's a bit lighter and lost the ponytail. He's every bit the professional he was. Unlike certain investigator wannabes around here, he does his homework and cites his sources. |
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