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Old April 5th 07, 01:07 AM posted to cam.misc,sci.physics,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove

As long as you don't run yourself out of ice cold beer and pizza, I
don't see all that much of a problem.

As long as you've got way more spare/renewable energy at your disposal
than you could possibly know what to do with, and having that nifty
thermal suit made by Ovglove, where's the big-ass insurmountable
problem with taking that hot-foot of a toasty stroll on Venus?

CO2--CO/O2 is not hardly a technical problem, hasn't been for a good
decade or more.

Pure H2O as easily extracted from those somewhat cool nighttime acidic
clouds (above the S8 layer) is simply another mission positive win-
win.

The 65 kg/m3 worth of buoyancy as working along with the 90.5% gravity
is offering a couple of other nifty factors that'll work rather well
for your composite rigid airship (just like on behalf of those
Venusian composite rigid airships).

If you're any damn good at PhotoShop, goto:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
or best you start with your very own look-see at the following
official image site:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif

The 36 look per pixel of that GIF image format starts getting
interesting at being 3X resampled, and then giving it all the best
PhotoShop or whatever else you can muster, although the original GIF
1:1 image was actually good enough for my PhotoShop configured brain
to deductively interpret upon what's most likely artificial as opposed
to what's perfectly natural. 36 looks per pixel is offering a lot of
truthworthy image data to start with, so it's a good one to stick with
rather than dealing with their individual 75 meter/pixel versions as
having combined but four looks per pixel.

Don't try to process the entire image unless you've got one heck of a
nifty PC or MAC. Try clipping out only the small portion of the total
image that's roughly a third up from the bottom and just to the right
of center, as we're talking about utilizing less than 10% or perhaps
even as little as 5% of that primary GIF image, and to process upon
just that much shouldn't traumatise your memory or performance PC or
MAC.

I'll review each of your results, that by rights should become a whole
lot better than mine. Obviously anyone can over/under force those
PhotoShop refinements, well past the point of no return, so don't do
that. My extremely old version of PhotoShop can't accomplish much
better than 8X resampling without losing ground, and besides, we don't
actually require much better than 6X for most others to see most
clearly what I'd interpreted from the original 1:1 format.

Thanks once again to 'tomcat' for also having posted this updated page
of Venus images.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

It's image No.17 from the top left being the one that so happens to
include the robust, sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH
Venus'.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif
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Old April 5th 07, 01:50 AM posted to cam.misc,sci.physics,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
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On Apr 4, 5:10 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck
wrote:
In article .com,

wrote:
As long as


you keep posting this nonsense, we won't stop laughing


You're quick, and silly at the same time, arnt you.
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Old April 5th 07, 02:09 AM posted to cam.misc,sci.physics,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Venus is not too hot to touch with the Ovglove

Phineas T Puddleduck wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:

As long as


you keep posting this nonsense, we won't stop laughing


He'll never understand.

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Old April 5th 07, 03:34 AM posted to cam.misc,sci.physics,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
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Too bad that "cam.misc" is basically another wussy NG that can't
possibly think for itself. They too must be deathly afraid of those
Jewish MIB, as well as afraid of more than a few of their very own
shadows.

Looking at their index of topics is nearly always indicating at
something above 10th grade. However, reading through some of those
topic replies is indicating at times less than 5th grade intelligence.

I see they have their very own Third Reich version of "PLEASE DO NOT
FEED THE TROLL". It must be their anti-truth enforcement. Hijackings
and otherwise forced tagging the original topic is about what I'd
expect of a 5th grader.

Obviously "cam.misc" group is getting itself stealth moderated on
behalf of being 100% pro GW Bush, and otherwise remaining pro upon
damn near anything Jewish, as much as otherwise being anti upon most
anything that's the least bit Jewish negative.

What would happen if those Venusian ETs were Jewish, or perhaps
Muslim?

Silly me, I was expecting some perfectly good arguments on behalf of
our doing Venus.
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Old April 5th 07, 05:33 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.usenet.kooks
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wrote:

Too bad that "cam.misc" is basically another wussy NG that can't
possibly think for itself. They too must be deathly afraid of those
Jewish MIB, as well as afraid of more than a few of their very own
shadows.

Looking at their index of topics is nearly always indicating at
something above 10th grade. However, reading through some of those
topic replies is indicating at times less than 5th grade intelligence.

I see they have their very own Third Reich version of "PLEASE DO NOT
FEED THE TROLL". It must be their anti-truth enforcement. Hijackings
and otherwise forced tagging the original topic is about what I'd
expect of a 5th grader.

Obviously "cam.misc" group is getting itself stealth moderated on
behalf of being 100% pro GW Bush, and otherwise remaining pro upon
damn near anything Jewish, as much as otherwise being anti upon most
anything that's the least bit Jewish negative.

What would happen if those Venusian ETs were Jewish, or perhaps
Muslim?

Silly me, I was expecting some perfectly good arguments on behalf of
our doing Venus.


Poor Brad; so misunderstood, so oppressed.

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Old April 5th 07, 05:38 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.usenet.kooks
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In article ,
Art Deco wrote:

Silly me, I was expecting some perfectly good arguments on behalf of
our doing Venus.


Poor Brad; so misunderstood, so oppressed.


Photoshop: Not just for airbrushing porn, eh Brad?

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"Yes, you're right of course, NB. And they get very useless very quickly.
I shall do my best to ignore them, as you wish."
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Old April 5th 07, 07:05 PM posted to cam.misc,sci.physics,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy
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OOPS! Now I've gone and insulted the Ovgolve cult of mindless
morons. Sorry about that.

Perhaps Venus is simply too freaking hot to touch, even with the
Ovglove.

Within an average of having been losing 20.5 w/m2, this represents
that some areas of the Venus surface are perhaps worth less than a w/
m2, with other areas radiating at perhaps 200 w/m2, and of course more
than a few active mud, lava and gas vents contributing their energy at
many thousands of watts per square meter.

So, the Ovglove applications are at best spotty, and along with the IR
CCD or most likely using of some other thermally tolerant instrument
of such technology at hand, there's no good reason to think of our
having to walk on those extra toasty locations where the heat of
what's geothermally forced is excessively pushing the limits of those
EVA Ovglove suits as intended and thus configured for keeping their
folks cool.

Technically it is much tougher to get rid of surplus heat than it is
for insulating yourself from the cold. However, the double IR/FIR
environment of our daytime moon that's physically dark and nasty in
more ways than passive heat, such as for benefiting those sorts of
robust robotic instruments that'll have to survive the solar IR plus
all of the locally reflected IR and of the secondary/recoil worth of
the mid and far infrared(FIR), should more than apply to this
application of such robotics and perhaps a few brave souls safely
accomplishing Venus. In fact the moon's secondary/recoil worth of
what's near, mid and far infrared combined is likely worth every bit
as much as the solar influx, though fortunately our Venus surface by
season of nighttime is without solar IR to begin with, and even by day
there's not all that much solar IR that ever reaches that S8 and
acidic h2o cloud protected surface.

There's obviously more to behold and appreciate about all the NIR, MIF
and FIR spectrums of our universe than there is from our biologically
limited if not evolution deprived visual spectrum (there are bugs,
more than a few other significant species including birds that
actually see much better than us humans)
http://www.ipac.caltech.edu/Outreach...irregions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared

Our seeing by night while exploring or otherwise doing our business of
depositing or extracting whatever from Venus is not the least bit of a
compromise, or is it outside of most any thermal environment spec.
Cruising Venus by way of a suitable composite rigid airship is just
downright nifty, and rather energy efficient to boot.
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Old April 6th 07, 03:16 PM posted to sci.physics,sci.astro,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.fan.art-bell,alt.usenet.kooks
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On Apr 5, 10:33 am, Art Deco wrote:
wrote:
Too bad that "cam.misc" is basically another wussy NG that can't
possibly think for itself. They too must be deathly afraid of those
Jewish MIB, as well as afraid of more than a few of their very own
shadows.


Looking at their index of topics is nearly always indicating at
something above 10th grade. However, reading through some of those
topic replies is indicating at times less than 5th grade intelligence.


I see they have their very own Third Reich version of "PLEASE DO NOT
FEED THE TROLL". It must be their anti-truth enforcement. Hijackings
and otherwise forced tagging the original topic is about what I'd
expect of a 5th grader.


Obviously "cam.misc" group is getting itself stealth moderated on
behalf of being 100% pro GW Bush, and otherwise remaining pro upon
damn near anything Jewish, as much as otherwise being anti upon most
anything that's the least bit Jewish negative.


What would happen if those Venusian ETs were Jewish, or perhaps
Muslim?


Silly me, I was expecting some perfectly good arguments on behalf of
our doing Venus.


Poor Brad; so misunderstood, so oppressed.


Art Deco viewed his latest pickup as too hot to handle:

http://westvillage.punt.nl/upload/april2006/cake.jpg

 




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