Venus EXPRESS is alive, as is the planet, as is Guth

We see that our warm and fuzzy Art Deco has absolutely no problems with
trashing ESA's Venus EXPRESS. Another Jewish thing that's obviously
coded into his incest DNA.
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Brad Guth

Brad Guth wrote:

We see that our warm and fuzzy Art Deco has absolutely no problems with

*ding*

trashing ESA's Venus EXPRESS. Another Jewish thing that's obviously
coded into his incest DNA.

Froth on, Brad.
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Brad Guth


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As rather oddly posted under "The Paranormal & Ghost Society", thereby
seemingly hocus-pocus to start off with; I tend to believe this
article is 100% of ongoing damage control, of efforts to exclude or
otherwise foil the most critical aspects of thermal and composition
readings of what the Venus EXPRESS mission was all about.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9123
Mirror jams on Venus Express spacecraft

There's nothing that's actually official from ESA as to any such "stuck
mirror". There's not even so much as an official link posted of
anything that's specifically derived from team 'Venus EXPRESS' that
reinforces this article as published by NEW SCIENTIST and copied by all
others, that's essentially as space.com owned and otherwise totally
controlled and/or moderated to death by the very same individuals that
are deeply invested into supporting everything that's NASA. It's as
though the PFS instrument manufacture is remaining as stealth as were
all of those supposed Iraqi WMD and the likes of Usama bin Laden.

NewScientist.com news service and the likes of Kelly Young are of
nothing but brown-nosed minions to the status quo, thus born-again
liars and of what's otherwise intellectually worse off than any Third
Reich. Their "disclaimer" as having been "Published by Reed Business
Information Limited" is basically nothing but another ruse from their
side of the pond.

New Scientist Limitation of liability:
"To the full extent permissible by law Reed Business information
Limited shall have no liability for any damage or loss (including,
without limitation, financial loss, loss of profits, loss of business
or any indirect or consequential loss), however it arises, resulting
from the use of or inability to use this website or any material
appearing on it or from any action or decision taken as a result of
using the website or any such material."

This basically means or represents that they can essentially publish
absolutely anything they damn well feel like, and no matters what can
not be held responsible in any way. (sounds exactly like Dick Cheney,
GW Bush and company)

BAA hasn't established what if anything the supposed PFS "stuck mirror"
that still offers us no official mechanical or any other documentation
as released from their Venus EXPRESS engineering and technical
applications team, as having to do with extracting specific pixel by
pixel thermal information from the ongoing thermal imaging process,
whereas as at worse it reduces specific target thermal resolution and
makes their imaging task somewhat less productive than what could
otherwise help in pinpointing those unusual thermal signatures of
specific geothermal hot spots. As such, it doesn't otherwise restrict
the greater capability of having established the thermal scale and
diversity that can still be sufficiently extrapolated, as to obtaining
the greater science from their recording of the mostly nighttime season
of atmospheric and cloud thermal differentials.

"PFS is designed to measure the chemical composition and temperature of
the atmosphere of Venus. It is also able to measure surface
temperature, and so search for signs of volcanic activity."

Unfortunately, it's rather technically so much easier to merely exclude
science by shutting down a given instrument reading from any given
mission if deemed appropriate by those encharge, and it certainly
wouldn't be the first nor the last time such moderation or scientific
instrument exclusion tactics have been employed. As for otherwise we'd
have been given the full mechanical specifications and drawings of that
mirror portion of their PFS instrument, so as to better appreciate as
to exactly how such absolute fools could have accomplished such an
obvious R&D error, as to foil such a primary part of their entire
mission.

With the very same PFS instrument onboard their Mars EXPRESS:
"The 'pendulum motor', used to drive various elements in the instrument
optics, was shown to be at fault. The recovery was made possible
through using internal instrument redundancy."
Yet nothing of any such specific instrument internal drawings or other
considerations given for the much newer Venus EXPRESS PSF effort, that
you'd think should have had whatever instrument revisions/upgrades
applied. Therefore, the best available surface temperature reading
capability is supposedly unable to comply to it's own standards, much
less accommodate the team effort as to what's most important about the
entire mission.

Oddly, the official ESA Venus EXPRESS "Status Reports" still have
nothing much to say about any supposed "stuck mirror". However, all
else is operating according to spec, as though the PFS instrument never
existed in the first place.
-
Brad Guth

I tend to believe it's called damage-control, or simply an ongoing act
of folks saving their remorseless butts by way of keeping a lid on it,
whereas it seems we haven't been getting the whole truth and nothing
but the truth about Venus, instead we been given the usual
infomercial-science that'll basically suit whatever's in the best
interest of the mainstream status quo.

I'd suppose, if you had already researched and thereby having invested
by having extensively published that by day or night the surface of
Venus is within 10 K of being at a constant/average of 730 K, as such
you sure as hell wouldn't want the likes of any new and improved PFS
readings from that pesky ESA Venus Express mission getting through.
You'd have to believe that all efforts and at all cost would be made in
order to foil any such interactive measures at getting that otherwise
nifty and robust instrument up and running, and that what our crack
wizards do best, isn't it.

As having been oddly posted under "The Paranormal & Ghost Society",
thereby seemingly hocus-pocus to start off with; I tend to believe
this article is 100% of ongoing damage control, of continuing efforts
to exclude or otherwise foil the most critical aspects of accomplishing
thermal and composition readings of what the Venus EXPRESS mission was
all about.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9123
Mirror jams on Venus Express spacecraft

There's nothing that's actually official from ESA as to any such "stuck
mirror". There's not even so much as an official link posted of
anything that's specifically derived from team 'Venus EXPRESS' that
reinforces this article as published by NEW SCIENTIST and copied by all
others, that's essentially as space.com owned and otherwise totally
controlled and/or moderated to death by the very same degree of
individuals that are deeply invested into supporting everything that's
NASA. It's as though the PFS instrument manufacture is remaining as
stealth as were all of those supposed Iraqi WMD and the likes of Usama
bin Laden. I wonder how much that cost us?

NewScientist.com news service and the likes of Kelly Young are of
nothing but brown-nosed minions to the very same status quo, thus
born-again liars and of what's otherwise intellectually worse off than
any Third Reich. Their "disclaimer" as having been "Published by Reed
Business Information Limited" is basically nothing but another ruse
from their side of the pond.

New Scientist Limitation of liability:
"To the full extent permissible by law Reed Business information
Limited shall have no liability for any damage or loss (including,
without limitation, financial loss, loss of profits, loss of business
or any indirect or consequential loss), however it arises, resulting
from the use of or inability to use this website or any material
appearing on it or from any action or decision taken as a result of
using the website or any such material."

This basically means or represents that they can essentially publish
absolutely anything they damn well feel like, and no matters what can
not be held responsible in any way. (sounds exactly like Dick Cheney,
GW Bush and company)

BAA hasn't established what if anything the supposed PFS "stuck mirror"
that still offers us no official mechanical or any other documentation
as released from their Venus EXPRESS engineering and technical
applications team, as having to do with extracting specific pixel by
pixel thermal information from the ongoing thermal imaging process,
whereas as at worse it reduces specific target thermal resolution and
makes their imaging task somewhat less productive than what could
otherwise help in pinpointing those unusual thermal signatures of
specific geothermal hot spots. As such, it doesn't otherwise restrict
the greater capability of having established the thermal scale and
diversity that can still be sufficiently extrapolated, as to obtaining
the greater science from their recording of the mostly nighttime season
of atmospheric and cloud thermal differentials.

"PFS is designed to measure the chemical composition and temperature of
the atmosphere of Venus. It is also able to measure surface
temperature, and so search for signs of volcanic activity."

Unfortunately, it's rather technically so much easier to merely exclude
science by shutting down a given instrument reading from any given
mission if deemed appropriate by those encharge, and it certainly
wouldn't be the first nor the last time such moderation or scientific
instrument exclusion tactics have been employed. As for otherwise we'd
have been given the full mechanical specifications and drawings of that
mirror portion of their PFS instrument, so as to better appreciate as
to exactly how such absolute fools could have accomplished such an
obvious R&D error, as to foil such a primary part of their entire
mission.

With the very same PFS instrument onboard their Mars EXPRESS:
"The 'pendulum motor', used to drive various elements in the instrument
optics, was shown to be at fault. The recovery was made possible
through using internal instrument redundancy."
Yet nothing of any such specific instrument internal drawings or other
considerations given for the much newer Venus EXPRESS PSF effort, that
you'd think should have had whatever instrument revisions/upgrades
applied. Therefore, the best available surface temperature reading
capability is supposedly unable to comply to it's own standards, much
less accommodate the team effort as to what's most important about the
entire mission.

Oddly, the official ESA Venus EXPRESS "Status Reports" still have
nothing much to say about any supposed "stuck mirror". However, all
else is operating according to spec, and as though the PFS instrument
never existed in the first place.
-
Brad Guth

Bradley E Guth
Brown Nosed Kook
4410 SE Nelson Rd.
Olalla, WA 98359
Birthday:
March 19th, 1946
253-857-6061
253-857-5318



Looks like a trailer park, lots of addresses at this location.

How typically pathetic, and rather typically Jewish to boot.

Too bad that we're not allowed to know whomever you folks are.
-
Brad Guth

wrote:
Bradley E Guth
Brown Nosed Kook
4410 SE Nelson Rd.
Olalla, WA 98359
Birthday:
March 19th, 1946
253-857-6061
253-857-5318



Looks like a trailer park, lots of addresses at this location.
I've previously posted my address as of the very get go, so that you
folks can take an aerial look-see for yourself. OOPS! that's yet
another photograph, thus can't be used as science or of any possible
interpretation whatsoever. Sorry about that.
-
Brad Guth

Geoffrey A. Landis,
A very good topic contribution about Venus being robotically
obtainable, especially of the nighttime season as efficiently cruising
a robotic aircraft or rigid airship just below those relatively cool
clouds. With that much buoyancy and thick soup of a mostly CO2
atmosphere for aerodynamics, such a craft could damn near be made of
iron.

Venus exploration paper
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...e31e0714cc30b4

As of lately, via Venus EXPRESS, it seems as though Venus isn't looking
nearly as hot by way of that season of nighttime.

BTW; this nifty report (all 13 pages worth) is at least taking us in
the right direction.
http://mit.edu/aeroastro/www/people/...enus_IAF04.pdf

I tend to believe it's still all about the ongoing scientific community
of damage-control, as simply an ongoing act of these Usenet folks and
rusemasters saving each and every one of their mutually remorseless
butts by way of keeping another lid on it, whereas it seems we haven't
been getting the whole truth and nothing but the truth about Venus,
instead we've been given the usual infomercial-science that'll
basically suit whatever's in the best interest of sustaining their
mainstream status quo.

However, I'd have to suppose, if you had already researched and thereby
having invested by way of having extensively published, that by day or
night the surface of Venus is within 10 K of being at a
constant/average of 730 K, as such you sure as hell wouldn't want the
likes of any new and improved PFS readings from that pesky ESA Venus
EXPRESS mission getting through. You'd have to believe that all
efforts and at all cost would have been made in order to foil any such
interactive measures at getting that otherwise nifty and robust
instrument up and running, and I do believe that's exactly what our
crack wizards do best.

As having been rather oddly posted under "The Paranormal & Ghost
Society", thereby seemingly hocus-pocus worthy to start off with; I
tend to believe this article is 100% of their ongoing damage control,
of their continuing efforts to exclude or otherwise foil the most
critical aspects of accomplishing thermal and composition readings of
what the Venus EXPRESS mission was all about.

Mirror jams on Venus Express spacecraft
http://www.newscientistspace.com/article/dn9123
There's nothing that's actually official from ESA as to any such "stuck
mirror". There's not even so much as an official link posted of
anything that's specifically derived from team 'Venus EXPRESS' that
reinforces this article as published by NEW SCIENTIST and copied by all
others, that's essentially as space.com owned and otherwise totally
controlled and/or moderated to death by the very same degree of
individuals that are deeply invested into supporting everything that's
NASA. It's as though the PFS instrument manufacture is remaining as
stealth as were all of those supposed Iraqi WMD and the likes of Usama
bin Laden. I wonder how much that effort is costing us?

NewScientist.com news service and the likes of Kelly Young are of
nothing but brown-nosed minions to the very same status quo that says
we've walked on the moon, thus born-again liars and of what's otherwise
intellectually worse off than any Third Reich. Their "disclaimer" as
having been "Published by Reed Business Information Limited" is
basically nothing but another ruse from their side of the pond.

New Scientist Limitation of liability:
"To the full extent permissible by law Reed Business information
Limited shall have no liability for any damage or loss (including,
without limitation, financial loss, loss of profits, loss of business
or any indirect or consequential loss), however it arises, resulting
from the use of or inability to use this website or any material
appearing on it or from any action or decision taken as a result of
using the website or any such material."

This basically means or represents that they can essentially publish
absolutely anything they damn well feel like, and no matters what can
not be held responsible in any way. (sounds exactly like Dick Cheney,
GW Bush and company)

BAA hasn't established what if anything the supposed PFS "stuck mirror"
that still offers us no official mechanical or any other documentation
as released from their Venus EXPRESS engineering and technical
applications team, as having to do with otherwise extracting specific
pixel by pixel thermal information from the ongoing thermal imaging
process, whereas as at worse it reduces specific target thermal
resolution and makes their imaging task and depth of penetration
somewhat less productive than what could otherwise help in pinpointing
those rather unusual thermal signatures of specific geothermal hot
spots. As such, it doesn't otherwise restrict the greater capability
of having established the thermal scale and diversity that can still be
sufficiently extrapolated, as to obtaining the greater science from
their recording of the mostly nighttime season of atmospheric and cloud
thermal differentials.

"PFS is designed to measure the chemical composition and temperature of
the atmosphere of Venus. It is also able to measure surface
temperature, and so search for signs of volcanic activity."

Unfortunately, it's rather technically so much easier to merely exclude
science by shutting down a given instrument reading from any given
mission if deemed appropriate by those encharge, and it certainly
wouldn't be the first nor the last time such moderation or scientific
instrument exclusion tactics have been employed. As for otherwise we'd
have been given the full mechanical specifications and drawings of that
mirror portion of their PFS instrument, so as to better appreciate as
to exactly how such absolute fools could have accomplished such an
obvious R&D error, as to foil such a primary part of their entire
mission.

With the very same PFS instrument onboard their Mars EXPRESS:
"The 'pendulum motor', used to drive various elements in the instrument
optics, was shown to be at fault. The recovery was made possible
through using internal instrument redundancy."
Yet nothing of any such specific instrument internal drawings or other
considerations given for the much newer Venus EXPRESS PFS effort, that
you'd think should have had whatever instrument revisions/upgrades
applied. Therefore, the best available surface temperature reading
capability is supposedly unable to comply to it's own standards, much
less accommodate the team effort as to what's most important about the
entire mission.

Oddly, the official ESA Venus EXPRESS "Status Reports" still have
nothing much to say about any supposed "stuck mirror". However, all
else is operating according to spec, and as though the PFS instrument
never existed in the first place.

Of course, once their mission frequencies and the software code is
known, from that point on we can disrupt, deactivate or even damage a
given science instrument from our command center, and entirely
accomplish such without ESA or anyone else ever knowing what happened.

At least thus far, the Venus EXPRESS team nor the instrument
manufacturer have not seen fit to offering a clue as to why their
otherwise robust and well proven PFS instrument isn't behaving.
-
Brad Guth