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What if governments have been aware of the
existence of Alien visitors (with bases on Phobos and Eros). What if it is impossible to reveal that knowledge because then the aliens would also find out? What if there is an intensive inter governmental effort to develop secret defenses against the very remote likelihood of these Alien's invasions? Zdenek (Denny) Jizba P.S.: If the objects on Eros and Phobos are indeed alien artifacts, in my opinion they may have been abandoned millions of years ago. (For some background information on the sources of these questions go to: http://groups.google.com/ and search for: jizba eros By the way, the header "erotic images" is NOT my doing. Someone else replaced my original header for that thread.) |
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And what if pigs could fly? There are no alien bases on Phobos or Eros (or
on Mars, either, for that matter), so it's all rather pointless speculation. RM "Zdenek Jizba" wrote in message ... What if governments have been aware of the existence of Alien visitors (with bases on Phobos and Eros). What if it is impossible to reveal that knowledge because then the aliens would also find out? What if there is an intensive inter governmental effort to develop secret defenses against the very remote likelihood of these Alien's invasions? Zdenek (Denny) Jizba P.S.: If the objects on Eros and Phobos are indeed alien artifacts, in my opinion they may have been abandoned millions of years ago. (For some background information on the sources of these questions go to: http://groups.google.com/ and search for: jizba eros By the way, the header "erotic images" is NOT my doing. Someone else replaced my original header for that thread.) |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 15:56:17 GMT, Zdenek Jizba
typed: What if there is an intensive inter governmental effort to develop secret defenses against the very remote likelihood of these Alien's invasions? It's already happened. Men in Black movies may be listed as sci-fi but it's really documentary. -- All viruses and spams are automatically removed by my ISP before reaching my inbox. To reply, change digi.mon to tds.net |
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Ron Miller wrote: And what if pigs could fly? There are no alien bases on Phobos or Eros (or on Mars, either, for that matter), so it's all rather pointless speculation. Your response implies that you know what you are talking about. So presumably you have knowledge of all the pertinent images. There are two images of Eros for which I have no explanation, (and have never seen one that would satisfy my personal knowledge. I am a geologist) The images can be found at http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/20000503/index.html (this one is hard to explain, but from the geological point of view the next one just does not have an explanation http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/20000522/index.html The three objects I would like to bring to your attention are the two mounds (jpl calls them "boulders" which they are NOT) and the large aspect ratio needle like object next to them. Unfortunately a close up image of these three objects shown on a later image of the day were later removed from the archive. WHY??? RM "Zdenek Jizba" wrote in message ... What if governments have been aware of the existence of Alien visitors (with bases on Phobos and Eros). What if it is impossible to reveal that knowledge because then the aliens would also find out? What if there is an intensive inter governmental effort to develop secret defenses against the very remote likelihood of these Alien's invasions? Zdenek (Denny) Jizba P.S.: If the objects on Eros and Phobos are indeed alien artifacts, in my opinion they may have been abandoned millions of years ago. (For some background information on the sources of these questions go to: http://groups.google.com/ and search for: jizba eros By the way, the header "erotic images" is NOT my doing. Someone else replaced my original header for that thread.) |
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They look like rocks to me. They come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, you
know. You say very definitely that these are "NOT" boulders---but you don't explain why you say this. What makes you think they are not? Just because you have no explanation for something does not mean that it is forever inexplicable---only that you do not have enough information. RM "Zdenek Jizba" wrote in message ... Ron Miller wrote: And what if pigs could fly? There are no alien bases on Phobos or Eros (or on Mars, either, for that matter), so it's all rather pointless speculation. Your response implies that you know what you are talking about. So presumably you have knowledge of all the pertinent images. There are two images of Eros for which I have no explanation, (and have never seen one that would satisfy my personal knowledge. I am a geologist) The images can be found at http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/20000503/index.html (this one is hard to explain, but from the geological point of view the next one just does not have an explanation http://near.jhuapl.edu/iod/20000522/index.html The three objects I would like to bring to your attention are the two mounds (jpl calls them "boulders" which they are NOT) and the large aspect ratio needle like object next to them. Unfortunately a close up image of these three objects shown on a later image of the day were later removed from the archive. WHY??? |
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Zdenek Jizba wrote
What if governments have been aware of the existence of Alien visitors What if you start posting in alt.alien groups instead of in an astronomy newsgroup? Small effort for you, big relieve for us. -- CeeBee CeeBee's Rant @ http://www.geocities.com/ceebee_2 |
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What If the clueless got a Life?
-- In This Universe The Night was Falling,The Shadows were lenghtening towards an east that would not know another dawn. But elsewhere the Stars were still young and the light of morning lingered: and along the path he once had followed, Man would one day go again. Arthur C. Clarke "The City & The Stars" SIAR www.starlords.org Bishop's Car Fund http://www.bishopcarfund.Netfirms.com/ "Zdenek Jizba" wrote in message ... What if governments have been aware of the existence of Alien visitors (with bases on Phobos and Eros). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03 |
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"J. Scott Miller" wrote: Zdenek Jizba wrote: What if governments have been aware of the existence of Alien visitors (with bases on Phobos and Eros). So, what you are saying is that governments around the world which inherently do not trust each other, as evidenced by many current conflicts, would all agree to this one thing - hide alien existence for all people of the world. I am not saying anything like that. Don't you understand the phrase "What if?". Besides, personally I do not have any positive evidence of alien existence. I DO HAVE some clues that in my opinion need to be investigated. As a matter of fact, if you read carefully some of my threads you will find that I have serious doubts about any success of SETI. As far as the so called alien artifacts near the "face" of Mars, my interpretation is that they are erosional features produced by joints or faults. Let me make this simple for you - if I had such knowledge, there is no amount of money I could be offered not to blow the lid off of such a blatant world government lie. And I consider myself a pretty patriotic type of guy. I do hope you will not be placed in the position to put money where your mouth is. What if it is impossible to reveal that knowledge because then the aliens would also find out? How ridiculous is this statement - the aliens would also find out there are aliens? Yes I agree, it is a ridiculous statement written solely to provoke serious discussion. What if there is an intensive inter governmental effort to develop secret defenses against the very remote likelihood of these Alien's invasions? See statement above about the world wide global cooperation of nations that now exists in our world today (NOT!). Why don't you make your point as an argument rather than a personal attack? Zdenek (Denny) Jizba P.S.: If the objects on Eros and Phobos are indeed alien artifacts, in my opinion they may have been abandoned millions of years ago. They are not artifacts. They are simply wishful thinking on the part of those that want to make money off of gullible folks like yourself. As I read this phrase, I tried to recall ANY incident in my past where my opinions might have been influenced regarding this specific subject. To the best of my recollection nobody influenced me. |
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"Zdenek Jizba" wrote in message ...
CeeBee wrote: Zdenek Jizba wrote What if governments have been aware of the existence of Alien visitors What if you start posting in alt.alien groups instead of in an astronomy newsgroup? I tried that for three days. The responses were unreal and my thread was re-named "Erotic images". It is very likely that this will be my last posting anyway. My ISP has shut off my access to newsgroups twice already. A third time and I am out. (my posting is almost exclusively to alt.astronomy, but occasionally I post to alt.math.recreational and alt.stamps.collect) Perhaps you should begin by solving the little mystery of why your ISP would cut your access to usenet. Something to do with too many complaints about your behaviour perhaps? |
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"Zdenek Jizba" wrote in message ... Ron Miller wrote: They look like rocks to me. They come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, you know. I agree with you that I cannot absolutely prove that they are not rocks. However, there are several aspects of these objects that make them VERY unusual. Fist the mounds. 1. they appear to be circular (the image that disappeared showed this best) 2. They have no sharp edges (unlike most of the other boulders on Eros) 3. There appears to be an overhang around the circular boundary (again, this showed better on the disappeared image) 4. The slopes appear to be those of a knoll. You use the word "appear" in three of your four points and "most of" in the fourth. This all awfully subjective. What you are saying is: "Because these objects 'appear' to be different from 'most of' the other rocks and boulders, they must be artificial." This is quite a leap from such little evidence. As to the object with a sharp peak, 1. The aspect ratio (height divided by base radius) appears to be too high. Its emplacement would have to have been from a vertical impact. Otherwise I would expect it to fall on its side. 2. The shape is quite unusual sort of like an off center pyramid Again, a lot of subjectivity: "appears to be", "I would expect", "would have been" . . . (and why would an "off center pyramid" be "quite unusual"? Nature is full of examples of approximations. "Quite unusual" would, I think, be a mathematically perfect pyramid, if anything). I hope this may explain to you my inability to accept them a natural objects. No, it doesn't. The NEAR expedition took many tens of thousands of images of Eros, some from less than 50 miles. You could convince me that these are natural objects if I could see some of the close up images. Unfortunately I have been unable to find a website of such images. (Is it available????) See? What you say here is that the photos are in fact not clear enough for you to determine (to your satisfaction at least) whether the objects are natural or not---yet you are willing to state that you are "unable" to accept them as natural objects. The fact is that you are making highly subjective judgements and from these deriving a definite---and very questionable---conclusion. By the way, there are plenty of close-up images available if you look for them. I had no trouble finding more than enough when I was looking for images for my recent book on asteroids, comets and meteors. RM |
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