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Old March 1st 09, 08:15 AM posted to alt.astronomy
G=EMC^2 Glazier[_1_]
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Painius LHC is built underground because it could have a small
explosion. It in fact did melt down at the point it had a bad
connection. Electricity having all those volts is tricky stuff.
Its like a million electric chairs. It could never create a black hole
no matter how small the hole. It took a "TEAM" of great engineers to
give us this great machine. It was built by men that loved science,and I
can relate to that TreBert

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Old March 1st 09, 07:29 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Feb 28, 11:15*pm, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Painius LHC is built underground because it could have a small
explosion. It in fact did melt down at the point it had a bad
connection. Electricity having all those volts is tricky stuff.
Its like a million electric chairs. *It could never create a black hole
no matter how small the hole. *It took a "TEAM" of great engineers to
give us this great machine. It was built by men that loved science,and I
can relate to that *TreBert


Perhaps LHC will give us our first terrestrial nova, along with a few
of those cute little proton packed black holes that'll live next to
forever. I can't hardly think of a better way to go.

~ BG
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Old March 3rd 09, 07:27 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"BradGuth" wrote in message...
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On Feb 28, 12:35 am, "Painius" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message...
...

I tend to favor whatever a good supercomputer simulation of stellar
orbital interactions might suggest. Otherwise the 11,711 year old
termination of the last ice age this planet Earth w/Selene will ever
see, is objectively good to go. Since you have nothing better to
offer, why should we ignore all other science, simply because it
doesn't help your side of this argument?


Well, i certainly have nothing better than that crystal ball
you seem to like to rub now and then. OTOH, i am a little
familiar with the rain cycles of Africa, which correspond to
the ice ages. And while these cycles do indicate that an
ice age might be very long in coming, there will probably
be another some day perhaps 500 thousand to a million
years from now.


Why so gosh darn long away, as according to those ice core samples, we
should have been dropping into our next ice age cycle as is?

btw, our sun is not going to cool down for quite some time, so don't
count your lucky stars on that one for accommodating our next ice age.


If you could see a graph of the rainfall in Africa over the last
20 million years, you would find that for most of that time the
rainfall has been stable. The Earth was cooler for the first part
of that time, then over a period of about a million years the
Earth warmed. Then the rainfall was much less than present-
day normal. That was the Pliocene period.

About 3 million years ago or so, the Pleistocene period began
and at the present time, we are still in this period. During the
Pleistocene the rainfall increased then decreased three times,
which was much less stable than the Pliocene period. Each
time the rainfall increased to maximum, much higher than
today's levels, there was a corresponding ice age on Earth.

A graph would show that in recent times the rainfall has been
decreasing from the most recent ice age. However, one very
interesting thing is that there are minor cycles on the graph
when rainfall increases and decreases over much shorter
periods of time. And there are even smaller minor cycles on
top of the larger ones. So when we think of changes in terms
of just a few tens of years, these changes are the tinier cycles
on the larger overall graph.

And yet, according to the major trend that the graph indicates,
the Earth is still heading overall for a much drier and warmer
period, with rainfall in small amounts as it was in the Pliocene
period. Humans and their forebears, like Homo erectus and
Homo habilis, have survived these periods in the past. So we
have the potential of surviving the upcoming hot, dry period,
too.

The important thing to remember, though, is that while the
obvious *trend* indicated by the graph is toward hotter, drier
weather, and that it appears that it will be 500,000 to a million
years before we enter another ice age, there is still no absolute
certainty that something will, or will not, happen to change the
trend. The overall weather instability of the Pleistocene might
once again stabilize, and the Earth might go through the next
several millions of years in a Pliocene-like state--very hot and
dry. The trend on the graph only indicates the *liklihood" of
future events. It is not necessarily what will actually happen.

And unfortunately for the many African peoples around the
Sahara, we can look to see that desert continuing to march
southward, expanding into what are now very green areas.

And as far as ignoring science, that's the last thing i would
ever suggest for anyone to do, you putz. g


But in affect and going by your actions, that's exactly what your
mainstream obfuscation amounts to.

~ BG


Sorry you see it that way, Brad. It's certainly unintended.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

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Paine Ellsworth

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Old March 3rd 09, 07:53 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Mar 3, 10:27*am, "Painius" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message...

...



On Feb 28, 12:35 am, "Painius" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message...
....


I tend to favor whatever a good supercomputer simulation of stellar
orbital interactions might suggest. Otherwise the 11,711 year old
termination of the last ice age this planet Earth w/Selene will ever
see, is objectively good to go. Since you have nothing better to
offer, why should we ignore all other science, simply because it
doesn't help your side of this argument?


Well, i certainly have nothing better than that crystal ball
you seem to like to rub now and then. OTOH, i am a little
familiar with the rain cycles of Africa, which correspond to
the ice ages. And while these cycles do indicate that an
ice age might be very long in coming, there will probably
be another some day perhaps 500 thousand to a million
years from now.


Why so gosh darn long away, as according to those ice core samples, we
should have been dropping into our next ice age cycle as is?


btw, *our sun is not going to cool down for quite some time, so don't
count your lucky stars on that one for accommodating our next ice age.


If you could see a graph of the rainfall in Africa over the last
20 million years, you would find that for most of that time the
rainfall has been stable. *The Earth was cooler for the first part
of that time, then over a period of about a million years the
Earth warmed. *Then the rainfall was much less than present-
day normal. *That was the Pliocene period.

About 3 million years ago or so, the Pleistocene period began
and at the present time, we are still in this period. *During the
Pleistocene the rainfall increased then decreased three times,
which was much less stable than the Pliocene period. *Each
time the rainfall increased to maximum, much higher than
today's levels, there was a corresponding ice age on Earth.

A graph would show that in recent times the rainfall has been
decreasing from the most recent ice age. *However, one very
interesting thing is that there are minor cycles on the graph
when rainfall increases and decreases over much shorter
periods of time. *And there are even smaller minor cycles on
top of the larger ones. *So when we think of changes in terms
of just a few tens of years, these changes are the tinier cycles
on the larger overall graph.

And yet, according to the major trend that the graph indicates,
the Earth is still heading overall for a much drier and warmer
period, with rainfall in small amounts as it was in the Pliocene
period. *Humans and their forebears, like Homo erectus and
Homo habilis, have survived these periods in the past. *So we
have the potential of surviving the upcoming hot, dry period,
too.

The important thing to remember, though, is that while the
obvious *trend* indicated by the graph is toward hotter, drier
weather, and that it appears that it will be 500,000 to a million
years before we enter another ice age, there is still no absolute
certainty that something will, or will not, happen to change the
trend. *The overall weather instability of the Pleistocene might
once again stabilize, and the Earth might go through the next
several millions of years in a Pliocene-like state--very hot and
dry. *The trend on the graph only indicates the *liklihood" of
future events. *It is not necessarily what will actually happen.

And unfortunately for the many African peoples around the
Sahara, we can look to see that desert continuing to march
southward, expanding into what are now very green areas.


And as far as ignoring science, that's the last thing i would
ever suggest for anyone to do, you putz. g


But in affect and going by your actions, that's exactly what your
mainstream obfuscation amounts to.


*~ BG


Sorry you see it that way, Brad. *It's certainly unintended.


That's just wonderful.

So, you have no problems or remorse with having obfuscated the 11,711
year ice core science, when Earth suddenly started to thaw out for no
good terrestrial or solar reason.

We're talking 20+ meters of water if this trend continues, and you do
realize there's still geological sequestered water that's coming to
the surface.

~ BG


  #55  
Old March 3rd 09, 10:00 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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We can't all be “ Zionist NAZI pretend atheists ”, as Brad claims.
Brad's indiscriminate insulting is a form of Tourette's syndrome,
it leaves a really bad impression on everyone he meets.

Sure, it often looks like he's talking to us;
but, 99 percent of the time, he's really talking to himself.

Like Raving, he constantly kicks himself;
unlike Raving, he uses us as a proxy for himself.

As I said:
“ When I start kicking myself I always ask myself: ‘ Topic ? ’.
I ask this to remind myself that I'm merely lacking a decent topic.

Basically, we've too much idle time on our hands.
Like caged rats, we're all looking for a better a topic.

Like gamblers, Christians and Trekkies,
we cling to impossible dreams. ”.
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Old March 3rd 09, 10:56 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Mar 3, 1:00*pm, Jeff▲Relf wrote:
We can't all be “ Zionist NAZI pretend atheists ”, as Brad claims.
Brad's indiscriminate insulting is a form of Tourette's syndrome,
it leaves a really bad impression on everyone he meets.

Sure, it often looks like he's talking to us;
but, 99 percent of the time, he's really talking to himself.

Like Raving, he constantly kicks himself;
unlike Raving, he uses us as a proxy for himself.

As I said:
“ When I start kicking myself I always ask myself: ‘ Topic ? ’.
* I ask this to remind myself that I'm merely lacking a decent topic..

* Basically, we've too much idle time on our hands.
* Like caged rats, we're all looking for a better a topic.

* Like gamblers, Christians and Trekkies,
* we cling to impossible dreams. ”.


Only a certified brown-nosed prick like yourself topic/author stalks
and then renames a given topic, thinking it's in any way informative,
cute or funny.

Why don't you create your own topics, so that we can continually
rename those as often as we like?

~ BG
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Old March 4th 09, 03:20 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Mar 3, 1:00*pm, Jeff▲Relf wrote:
We can't all be “ Zionist NAZI pretend atheists ”, as Brad claims.
Brad's indiscriminate insulting is a form of Tourette's syndrome,
it leaves a really bad impression on everyone he meets.

Sure, it often looks like he's talking to us;
but, 99 percent of the time, he's really talking to himself.

Like Raving, he constantly kicks himself;
unlike Raving, he uses us as a proxy for himself.

As I said:
“ When I start kicking myself I always ask myself: ‘ Topic ? ’.
* I ask this to remind myself that I'm merely lacking a decent topic..

* Basically, we've too much idle time on our hands.
* Like caged rats, we're all looking for a better a topic.

* Like gamblers, Christians and Trekkies,
* we cling to impossible dreams. ”.



Like caged rats with sharp teeth, we'll eventually gnaw our way out!

Double-A

 




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