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By placing two satellites in elliptical orbit around the Moon
(or any other body) and measuring the distance between them, variations in local gravity can be detected. |
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On Dec 31, 5:31*pm, "Androcles" wrote:
By placing two satellites in elliptical orbit around the Moon (or any other body) and measuring the distance between them, variations in local gravity can be detected. Yes, as well as 3D mapping the variable thickness of its crust plus some better information as to whatever's inside of that thick and metallicity saturated crust, such as how far off-center is its core, and another estimate as to the volume and mass of its core. Of course surface deployed instruments could have also told us much better science as of 4 decades ago. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On 12/31/11 8:10 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
Yes, as well as 3D mapping the variable thickness of its crust plus some better information as to whatever's inside of that thick and metallicity saturated crust, such as how far off-center is its core, and another estimate as to the volume and mass of its core. Apollo rock show that the metallicity of the moons surface is very similar to the Earth's surface, Brad. |
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On Dec 31 2011, 10:55*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 12/31/11 8:10 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Yes, as well as 3D mapping the variable thickness of its crust plus some better information as to whatever's inside of that thick and metallicity saturated crust, such as how far off-center is its core, and another estimate as to the volume and mass of its core. * *Apollo rock show that the metallicity of the moons surface is * *very similar to the Earth's surface, Brad. Oddly, most all of the confirmed meteorites as lunar origin tend to say otherwise, Sam. Just like the radar imaging of Venus is clearly more metallicity worthy than Earth, and so is our physically dark moon, Sam. Not all planets, planetoids, moons and asteroids got formed at the exact same time and place, Sam. The magnetic susceptibility of meteorites that originated from our moon are not the same as Earth basalt, Sam. For someone as metallicity colorblind and mainstream bigoted as yourself, really shouldn't be telling others how to interpret images or paramagnetic rocks, Sam. Do you also think the Pope should go back into denial of their abusing children? You obviously think our faith-based government can do no wrong, and thereby everything gets justified to suit, so of course you and every other public-funded Mafia member have no option but to say whatever is mainstream, or else. What is it about others obfuscating or telling lies that so turns you on, Sam? Do you think our government and its many agencies has been always doing everything right, Sam? Why of course, how could a mere status-quo parrot like yourself really know anything. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Brad Guth writes:
Not all planets, planetoids, moons and asteroids got formed at the exact same time and place, Sam. But we know from isotope ratios that the Moon and Earth formed at the same time and place, since there is so little difference between isotope ratios between the two. The moon is more similar to Earth than either are to Mars, for example. |
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On Jan 1, 9:02*am, (Michael Moroney)
wrote: Brad Guth writes: Not all planets, planetoids, moons and asteroids got formed at the exact same time and place, Sam. But we know from isotope ratios that the Moon and Earth formed at the same time and place, since there is so little difference between isotope ratios between the two. *The moon is more similar to Earth than either are to Mars, for example. Then my paramagnetic basalt of 3.5+ g/cm3 must have come from some other planet or moon other than Earth or Selene. Are you suggesting that lunar mascons are not going to be significantly dense nor unusually paramagnetic? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On Dec 31 2011, 5:31*pm, "Androcles"
wrote: By placing two satellites in elliptical orbit around the Moon (or any other body) and measuring the distance between them, variations in local gravity can be detected. I've posted about my many samples of paramagnetic basalt and perhaps even some black carbonado, that according to the likes of our resident FUD-masters, such rocks of 3.5+ g/cm3 can't be from our moon or Earth. If those lunar mascons are those areas of merely low density basalt and of minimal paramagnetic value, then perhaps they're merely concentrations of gold and other heavy rare elements in order to account for their influencing the orbit of satellites. Either way, our mainstream metallicity colorblindness is going to remain as problematic, as well as kinda worthless to most of us that are trying to figure stuff out.. http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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Painius writes:
If a huge pile of mass the size of Mars actually did collide with an as yet formed proto-Earth, then wouldn't that mass have some very different metals in its crust? Perhaps, however part of the theory was the Mars-sized planet formed at Earth's L4 or L5 point from the same portion of the primoridial cloud that formed Earth and wouldn't be very different from Earth. However, even if we disregard that possibility, the _mix_ of proto-Earth and that planet is now what comprises Earth's current crust, and that mix is the reference point we call "Earth's isotopic content". Perhaps if we get a sample from deep within the mantle (almost totally proto-Earth and little from the impactor) we will see an isotopic content difference. Similarly, the Moon would also be a mix of the impactor's mass and mass from the earth splashed into space. A difference in ratio would come from a difference in percentages from each source. If the ratio is the same, then there would be very little isotopic content difference. The fact is, there is very little isotopic content difference, which leads to a conclusion that Earth and the moon almost certainly formed together somehow, Guth's Sirius kookery notwithstanding. |
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On Jan 3, 12:10*pm, (Michael Moroney)
wrote: Painius writes: If a huge pile of mass the size of Mars actually did collide with an as yet formed proto-Earth, then wouldn't that mass have some very different metals in its crust? Perhaps, however part of the theory was the Mars-sized planet formed at Earth's L4 or L5 point from the same portion of the primoridial cloud that formed Earth and wouldn't be very different from Earth. However, even if we disregard that possibility, the _mix_ of proto-Earth and that planet is now what comprises Earth's current crust, and that mix is the reference point we call "Earth's isotopic content". *Perhaps if we get a sample from deep within the mantle (almost totally proto-Earth and little from the impactor) we will see an isotopic content difference. Similarly, the Moon would also be a mix of the impactor's mass and mass from the earth splashed into space. *A difference in ratio would come from a difference in percentages from each source. *If the ratio is the same, then there would be very little isotopic content difference. The fact is, there is very little isotopic content difference, which leads to a conclusion that Earth and the moon almost certainly formed together somehow, Guth's Sirius kookery notwithstanding. That is not exactly true, unless you can tell us where I can obtain some highly paramagnetic basalt of 3.5+ g/cm3 from a rock quarry within the Washington state area (namely close to Tacoma or Bremerton Washington), because at 3.5+ to near 4 g/cm3 we'd be talking about seriously good metallicity saturated ores of considerable value. Don't knock Sirius out of the ballpark unless you can tell us where it has been in relation to our solar system for the past 300 some odd million years, and of where those Sirius-B planets went?. Are you suggesting that the laws of orbital dynamics and that of considerable nearby gravity simply can't be applied in this case? Are you further suggesting that there never was any molecular/nebula metallicity cloud that created those terrific Sirius stars as of 300 +/- some odd million years ago? http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” |
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On Jan 1, 10:26*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Dec 31 2011, 10:55*pm, Sam Wormley wrote: On 12/31/11 8:10 PM, Brad Guth wrote: Yes, as well as 3D mapping the variable thickness of its crust plus some better information as to whatever's inside of that thick and metallicity saturated crust, such as how far off-center is its core, and another estimate as to the volume and mass of its core. * *Apollo rock show that the metallicity of the moons surface is * *very similar to the Earth's surface, Brad. Oddly, most all of the confirmed meteorites as lunar origin tend to say otherwise, Sam. Just like the radar imaging of Venus is clearly more metallicity worthy than Earth, and so is our physically dark moon, Sam. Not all planets, planetoids, moons and asteroids got formed at the exact same time and place, Sam. The magnetic susceptibility of meteorites that originated from our moon are not the same as Earth basalt, Sam. For someone as metallicity colorblind and mainstream bigoted as yourself, really shouldn't be telling others how to interpret images or paramagnetic rocks, Sam. Do you also think the Pope should go back into denial of their abusing children? You obviously think our faith-based government can do no wrong, and thereby everything gets justified to suit, so of course you and every other public-funded Mafia member have no option but to say whatever is mainstream, or else. What is it about others obfuscating or telling lies that so turns you on, Sam? Do you think our government and its many agencies has been always doing everything right, Sam? Why of course, how could a mere status-quo parrot like yourself really know anything. *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet” Reality is so little iron is found on the moon shows it was never part of the Earth Take its 700 mile thick mantle it is rich in rocky substances,but no iron. In its dried up seas of lava no surface iron. I'm not sure,but I don't think a drop of water has been found on the moon. The moon is very much like Mars. Dry and dusty. Mars however has lots of iron. TreBert |
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