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Old August 31st 07, 07:46 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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In order to camouflage the falsehood of Einstein's light postulate

http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/ : "...light is
always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity c which is
independent of the state of motion of the emitting body"

Einsteinians would do anything. They have already created Doubly
Special Relativity, Deformed Special Relativity, Very Special
Relativity etc.:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0406/0406104.pdf
"THE CONSTANCY, OR OTHERWISE, OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT" Daniel J.
Farrell, J. Dunning-Davies, Department of Physics, University of Hull,
Hull HU6 7RX, England.
"Since the Special Theory of Relativity was expounded and accepted, it
has seemed almost Tantamount to sacrilege to even suggest that the
speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat
surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper of 1911
[1] that the speed of light might vary with the gravitational
potential. Interestingly, this suggestion that gravity might
affect the motion of light also surfaced in Michell's paper of
1784 [2], where he first derived the expression for the ratio of the
mass to the radius of a star whose escape speed equalled the
speed of light......In the 'VSL epoch', so called 'Lorentz
invariance is spontaneously broken'; meaning that the Lorentz
transformatins, or more specifically Einstein's second postulate :
'The speed of light c is the same constant with respect to all
observers irrespective of their motion and the motion of the source'
no longer applies.... Moreover, photons of low energy travel at 'c'
while photons above a threshhold energy can have varying values,
faster than 'c', which are proportional to their energy.....
Doubly Special Relativity also provides a 'natural' mechanism for the
speed of light to be faster in the very early universe, as the average
energy per particle would have been well over the threshold value."

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=...pt=sci_arttext
"PHYSICS OF DEFORMED SPECIAL RELATIVITY: RELATIVITY PRINCIPLE
REVISITED" Florian Girelli; Etera R. Livine, Perimeter Institute, 31
Caroline Street North Waterloo, Ontario canada N2L 2Y5
"Varying speed of light: DSR is a well-known example of varying Speed
of Light [13]. The simple argument is that masses should slow down the
motion of light, and stop it in the extreme case when we reach the
maximal mass (black hole case)."

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...to-a-spin.html
"It's not every day that respectable scientists challenge Einstein.
But that's what Nobel prizewinner Sheldon Glashow and his colleague
Andrew Cohen, both of Boston University in Massachusetts, have dared
to do. They believe it is time to rewrite the rules of Einstein's
special theory of relativity, our best description of the nature of
space and time for over a century. They call their theory very special
relativity, or VSR."

However neither Doubly Special Relativity nor Deformed Special
Relativity nor Very Special Relativity etc. is radical enough. The
enormous danger is still actual - even zombies may find it suitable to
ask one day: "Do Doubly Special Relativity, Deformed Special
Relativity, Very Special Relativity etc. imply that the speed of light
is NOT independent of the state of motion of the emitting body?". And
the tragedy would be complete.

Three distinguished hypnotists in Einstein criminal cult, Professor
Jean-Marc Levy-Leblond, Professor Tom Roberts and Professor Jong-Ping
Hsu, have resolved the problem forever, and the name of their
discovery is, accordingly, Forever Special Relativity. Professor Jean-
Marc Levy-Leblond, Professor Tom Roberts and Professor Jong-Ping Hsu
discovered that Einstein's light postulate is just redundant. The
speed of light may be constant, variable, may depend on the state of
motion of the emitting body, may be independent of the state of motion
of the emitting body etc. etc.: in any event, SPECIAL RELATIVITY WOULD
BE UNAFFECTED.

More about the discovery of Leblond-Roberts-Hsu (Forever Special
Relativity) he

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...4b543c9ed073e?

Pentcho Valev

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Old August 31st 07, 08:31 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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From Osher Doctorow

Quite a few physicists and engineers have made their careers out of
postulating finite upper and lower limits to physical variables. The
biggest problem with such postulates, which by the way would
correspond in some ways to the Ancient Athenians claiming that only 0-
curvature (Euclidean) space is possible, is that there is no way of
distinguishing the "unpermitted region" from a different phase,
although almost equally important is the fact that Inflation of the
Universe is both logically a different phase (dynamic or expanding
geometry can be regarded as a different physical phase) and
theoretically very compelling.

The "lower bound" people are about as bad as the "upper bound"
people. The most common description of the justification for
regarding space and time as quantized is that "at or below the Planck
level, geometry is meaningless." As with the superluminal opponents,
nobody has actually gone at or below the Planck level, and nobody
actually can explain what would happen if you kept miniaturizing
objects. Is there some level at which, when you measured the length
of a line segment as 4 on some scale, then you couldn't cut it in half
and get 2, or so to speak that 2 + 2 is not 4? If this were true,
then not only mathematics but measurement would be contradicted. But
with a straight face such people would tell us that there is some
level at which, without entering a different phase, you could no
longer measure a line or subdivide it, even though at a slightly
higher scale or level you just did measure a line or subdivided it.
If you keep persisting with these people, then they will ultimately
claim that it is "beyond argument", or that "the mathematics says so,"
which is an admission that neither logic nor experiment supports them.

Osher Doctorow

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Old September 2nd 07, 04:46 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default FOREVER SPECIAL RELATIVITY

In order to camouflage the falsehood of Einstein's light postulate

http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/: "...light is
always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity c which is
independent of the state of motion of the emitting body"

Einsteinians would do anything. They have already created Doubly
Special Relativity, Deformed Special Relativity, Very Special
Relativity etc.:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0406/0406104.pdf
"THE CONSTANCY, OR OTHERWISE, OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT" Daniel J.
Farrell, J. Dunning-Davies, Department of Physics, University of Hull,
Hull HU6 7RX, England.
"Since the Special Theory of Relativity was expounded and accepted, it
has seemed almost Tantamount to sacrilege to even suggest that the
speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat
surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper of 1911
[1] that the speed of light might vary with the gravitational
potential. Interestingly, this suggestion that gravity might
affect the motion of light also surfaced in Michell's paper of
1784 [2], where he first derived the expression for the ratio of the
mass to the radius of a star whose escape speed equalled the
speed of light......In the 'VSL epoch', so called 'Lorentz
invariance is spontaneously broken'; meaning that the Lorentz
transformatins, or more specifically Einstein's second postulate :
'The speed of light c is the same constant with respect to all
observers irrespective of their motion and the motion of the source'
no longer applies.... Moreover, photons of low energy travel at 'c'
while photons above a threshhold energy can have varying values,
faster than 'c', which are proportional to their energy.....
Doubly Special Relativity also provides a 'natural' mechanism for the
speed of light to be faster in the very early universe, as the average
energy per particle would have been well over the threshold value."

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=...pt=sci_arttext
"PHYSICS OF DEFORMED SPECIAL RELATIVITY: RELATIVITY PRINCIPLE
REVISITED" Florian Girelli; Etera R. Livine, Perimeter Institute, 31
Caroline Street North Waterloo, Ontario canada N2L 2Y5
"Varying speed of light: DSR is a well-known example of varying Speed
of Light [13]. The simple argument is that masses should slow down the
motion of light, and stop it in the extreme case when we reach the
maximal mass (black hole case)."

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...to-a-spin.html
"It's not every day that respectable scientists challenge Einstein.
But that's what Nobel prizewinner Sheldon Glashow and his colleague
Andrew Cohen, both of Boston University in Massachusetts, have dared
to do. They believe it is time to rewrite the rules of Einstein's
special theory of relativity, our best description of the nature of
space and time for over a century. They call their theory very special
relativity, or VSR."

However neither Doubly Special Relativity nor Deformed Special
Relativity nor Very Special Relativity etc. is radical enough. The
enormous danger is still actual - even zombies may find it suitable to
ask one day: "Do Doubly Special Relativity, Deformed Special
Relativity, Very Special Relativity etc. imply that the speed of light
is NOT independent of the state of motion of the emitting body?". And
the tragedy would be complete.

Three distinguished hypnotists in Einstein criminal cult, Professor
Jean-Marc Levy-Leblond, Professor Tom Roberts and Professor Jong-Ping
Hsu, have resolved the problem forever, and the name of their
discovery is, accordingly, Forever Special Relativity. Professor Jean-
Marc Levy-Leblond, Professor Tom Roberts and Professor Jong-Ping Hsu
discovered that Einstein's light postulate is just redundant. The
speed of light may be constant, variable, may depend on the state of
motion of the emitting body, may be independent of the state of motion
of the emitting body etc. etc.: in any event, SPECIAL RELATIVITY WOULD
BE UNAFFECTED.

More about the discovery of Leblond-Roberts-Hsu (Forever Special
Relativity) he

http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.ph...4b543c9ed073e?


The French genius Jean Eisenstaedt is also developping Forever Special
Relativity but his approach is somewhat different. Again, the theory
is unaffected, Einstein is the divine author, only Einstein's false
light postulate is replaced by its true alternative implied by
Newton's particle model of light:

http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/...40/pgs/4_5.pdf
"Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la vitesse de la
lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi que de celle
de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il n'y a pas de
raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de Newton, pour que
la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa trajectoire - qu'une
particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de raison pour que la
lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. Bref, pourquoi ne pas
appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce
que font plusieurs astronomes, opticiens, philosophes de la nature a
la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les resultats sont etonnants... et
aujourd'hui nouveaux."

Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why
the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and
the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly,
there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's
Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is
concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any
reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why
don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is
what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the
end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays."

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 4th 07, 08:21 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Paul Davies establishes Forever Special Relativity by using an
extremely original approach:

http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/a...ls.php?id=5538
Paul Davies: "The "c" here stands for the speed of light. It is one of
the most fundamental of the basic constants of physics. Or is it? In
recent years a few maverick scientists have claimed that the speed of
light might not be constant at all. Shock, horror! Does this mean the
next Great Revolution in Science is just around the corner?"

Initially people do feel shock and horror (after all, Paul Davies is a
great time traveller) and wait but no Great Revolution in Science
comes from around the corner. Then people go and see and find there is
no Great Revolution in Science around the corner. Just "a few maverick
scientists" taking away the money they have been given for finding a
solution to the fundamental problem: "How can Einstein's light
postulate be violated without violating it?". Finally, people decide
to pay no attention to any "maverick scientists" who claim Einstein's
light postulate is false. So Special Relativity becomes Forever
Special relativity.

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 22nd 07, 09:53 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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On Sep 4, 10:21 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Paul Davies establishes Forever Special Relativity by using an
extremely original approach:

http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/a...ls.php?id=5538
Paul Davies: "The "c" here stands for the speed oflight. It is one of
the most fundamental of the basic constants of physics. Or is it? In
recent years a few maverick scientists have claimed that the speed oflightmight not be constant at all. Shock, horror! Does this mean the
next Great Revolution in Science is just around the corner?"

Initially people do feel shock and horror (after all, Paul Davies is a
great time traveller) and wait but no Great Revolution in Science
comes from around the corner. Then people go and see and find there is
no Great Revolution in Science around the corner. Just "a few maverick
scientists" taking away the money they have been given for finding a
solution to the fundamental problem: "How can Einstein's light postulate be violated without violating it?". Finally, people decide
to pay no attention to any "maverick scientists" who claim Einstein's light postulate is false. So Special Relativity becomes Forever
Special relativity.


More from a hypnotist in Einstein criminal cult who, together with
John Stachel, seems to be the original discoverer of Forever Special
Relativity (that is, a Special Relativity independent of the falsehood
of Einstein's second (light) postulate):

http://o.castera.free.fr/pdf/onemorederivation.pdf
Jean-Marc Levy-Leblond: "This is the point of view from wich I intend
to criticize the overemphasized role of the speed of light in the
foundations of the special relativity, and to propose an approach to
these foundations that dispenses with the hypothesis of the invariance
of c....We believe that special relativity at the present time stands
as a universal theory discribing the structure of a common space-time
arena in which all fundamental processes take place....The evidence of
the nonzero mass of the photon would not, as such, shake in any way
the validity of the special relalivity. It would, however, nullify all
its derivations which are based on the invariance of the photon
velocity."

The last statement will be referred to some day as THE MOST INCREDIBLE
OXYMORON ever produced in Einstein's era so it makes sense to show it
once mo

JEAN-MARC LEVY-LEBLOND: "The evidence of the nonzero mass of the
photon would not, as such, shake in any way the validity of the
special relalivity. It would, however, nullify all its derivations
which are based on the invariance of the photon velocity."

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 22nd 07, 02:24 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default FOREVER SPECIAL RELATIVITY

On Sep 22, 11:53 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On Sep 4, 10:21 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Paul Davies establishes Forever Special Relativity by using an
extremely original approach:


http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/a...ls.php?id=5538
Paul Davies: "The "c" here stands for the speed oflight. It is one of
the most fundamental of the basic constants of physics. Or is it? In
recent years a few maverick scientists have claimed that the speed oflightmight not be constant at all. Shock, horror! Does this mean the
next Great Revolution in Science is just around the corner?"


Initially people do feel shock and horror (after all, Paul Davies is a
great time traveller) and wait but no Great Revolution in Science
comes from around the corner. Then people go and see and find there is
no Great Revolution in Science around the corner. Just "a few maverick
scientists" taking away the money they have been given for finding a
solution to the fundamental problem: "How can Einstein's light postulate be violated without violating it?". Finally, people decide
to pay no attention to any "maverick scientists" who claim Einstein's light postulate is false. So Special Relativity becomes Forever
Special relativity.


More from a hypnotist in Einstein criminal cult who, together with
John Stachel, seems to be the original discoverer of Forever Special
Relativity (that is, a Special Relativity independent of the falsehood
of Einstein's second (light) postulate):

http://o.castera.free.fr/pdf/onemorederivation.pdf
Jean-Marc Levy-Leblond: "This is the point of view from wich I intend
to criticize the overemphasized role of the speed of light in the
foundations of the special relativity, and to propose an approach to
these foundations that dispenses with the hypothesis of the invariance
of c....We believe that special relativity at the present time stands
as a universal theory discribing the structure of a common space-time
arena in which all fundamental processes take place....The evidence of
the nonzero mass of the photon would not, as such, shake in any way
the validity of the special relalivity. It would, however, nullify all
its derivations which are based on the invariance of the photon
velocity."

The last statement will be referred to some day as THE MOST INCREDIBLE
OXYMORON ever produced in Einstein's era so it makes sense to show it
once mo

JEAN-MARC LEVY-LEBLOND: "The evidence of the nonzero mass of the
photon would not, as such, shake in any way the validity of the
special relalivity. It would, however, nullify all its derivations
which are based on the invariance of the photon velocity."


Jong-Ping Hsu is also one of the original discoverers of Forever
Special Relativity:

http://www.amazon.com/Einsteins-Rela.../dp/9810238886
"...an unexpected affirmative answer to the long-standing question of
whether it is possible to construct a relativity theory without
postulating the constancy of the speed of light and retaining only the
first postulate of special relativity. This question was discussed in
the early years following the discovery of special relativity by many
physicists, including Ritz, Tolman, Kunz, Comstock and Pauli, all of
whom obtained negative answers."

Andreas Ernst, University of Heidelberg, Germany, who is a reviewer of
Hsu's book, explains where Hsu's approach leads to:

http://www.amazon.com/Einsteins-Rela.../dp/9810238886
"Hsu's theory is shown to have new implications for modern physics
which differ from those found in Special Relativity: A very
interesting special case called 'Common Relativity' is considered
which is based on the postulate of a common time instead of a constant
speed of light within the four-dimensional symmetry framework."

Bravo Hsu! Common time instead of a constant speed of light! Hsu is a
genius! He is a greater genius than his brothers discoverers John
Stachel and Jean-Marc Levy-Leblond. Much greater!

Pentcho Valev

 




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