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Old October 30th 11, 05:45 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Koobee Wublee
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This conversation reveals that PD, a devoted Einstein Dingleberry, is
once again putting his foot in his mouth.

Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics: A paradox is a
contradiction in logic. It should never happen in a logical and
physical universe.

PD: That is wrong. A paradox and thus a contradiction can happen in
real life without any issues and consequences, and this is called
[Voodoo] physics [where logic and consistencies are not important, and
what is at stake is the continued worship of SR and GR at any cost].
A paradox, thus a contradiction, is very much allowed with the confine
of SR and GR. So what that SR and GR have so many self-
contradictions? Contradictions, voodoo physics, and matheMagics are
the names of the game in physics in the past 100 years. shrug

KW: So, SR and GR allow self-contradictions in these very ****ed up
hypotheses. As Orwell had pointed out:

** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** PARADOX IS KOSHER - Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH - Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS
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Old October 30th 11, 09:47 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
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On Oct 30, 11:45Â*am, Koobee Wublee wrote:
This conversation reveals that PD, a devoted Einstein Dingleberry, is
once again putting his foot in his mouth.

Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics: Â*A paradox is a
contradiction in logic.


There is either a misunderstanding in terminology or the
misapplication of a term to what actually is going on.
There are no contradictions in logic in SR.
If your definition of paradox is "contradiction in logic" then there
are no paradoxes in special relativity.
If your definition of paradox is "puzzle that gives the initial
impression of an apparent contradiction, which upon closer inspection
is found not to be a contradiction at all," then there are things of
this sort in special relativity.

When physicists refer to paradoxes in SR, they are referring to
paradoxes of the SECOND definition, not of the first definition.
If you hear the word "paradox" and insist (without asking) that this
must mean of the first definition, then you have misled yourself.

Â*It should never happen in a logical and
physical universe.

PD: Â*That is wrong. Â*A paradox and thus a contradiction can happen in
real life without any issues and consequences, and this is called
[Voodoo] physics [where logic and consistencies are not important, and
what is at stake is the continued worship of SR and GR at any cost].
A paradox, thus a contradiction, is very much allowed with the confine
of SR and GR. Â*So what that SR and GR have so many self-
contradictions? Â*Contradictions, voodoo physics, and matheMagics are
the names of the game in physics in the past 100 years. Â*shrug

KW: Â*So, SR and GR allow self-contradictions in these very ****ed up
hypotheses. Â*As Orwell had pointed out:

** Â* Â* Â* Â*FAITH IS THEORY
** Â* Â* Â* Â*LYING IS TEACHING
** Â* Â* Â* NITWIT IS GENIUS
** Â* Â* Â* OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** Â* Â* Â*PARADOX IS KOSHER - Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** Â* Â* Â*FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** Â* Â* BULL**** IS TRUTH Â*- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** Â* Â*BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** Â* Â*MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** Â* Â*IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** Â* CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** Â* PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** Â*MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS


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Old October 30th 11, 11:51 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
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In sci.physics eric gisse wrote:
....
Correct. I do, however, see one right he
"Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics"
[...]
Do you think he copies and pastes that stupid little list, or do you think
he writes it out each time?


Windows NT 6 and google groups. Enny meeny.... probably cut & paste.

--
Generally, an empty answer. Try again.
-- John Stafford , 08 Dec 2010 10:16:59 -0600
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Old October 31st 11, 06:38 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Koobee Wublee
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wrote:
Eric Gisse the college dropout wrote:
PD wrote:


[I don’t care about what the actual implication of
what a paradox is. All I know is that I can change
the meaning and bull**** to anything I want. It is
all about me, me, and me. SR is my religion, and
my religion is not about to be overthrown by paradoxes.
shrug]


[And I will continue to practice the Orwellian thinking:


** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** PARADOX IS KOSHER
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS


shrug]


Correct. I do, however, see one right he
"Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics"
[Somebody, please wipe my ass. Wah! Wah! Wah! shrug]


Windows NT 6 and google groups. Enny meeny.... [See who has
contributed to the most nonsensical discussions of them all.
Me... shrug]


Village idiots discussing philosophy again --- no coherency, no logic,
no thoughts behind these mumblings... Sad, no?


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Old October 31st 11, 07:19 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Igor
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On Oct 30, 12:45Â*pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
This conversation reveals that PD, a devoted Einstein Dingleberry, is
once again putting his foot in his mouth.

Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics: Â*A paradox is a
contradiction in logic. Â*It should never happen in a logical and
physical universe.

PD: Â*That is wrong. Â*A paradox and thus a contradiction can happen in
real life without any issues and consequences, and this is called
[Voodoo] physics [where logic and consistencies are not important, and
what is at stake is the continued worship of SR and GR at any cost].
A paradox, thus a contradiction, is very much allowed with the confine
of SR and GR. Â*So what that SR and GR have so many self-
contradictions? Â*Contradictions, voodoo physics, and matheMagics are
the names of the game in physics in the past 100 years. Â*shrug

KW: Â*So, SR and GR allow self-contradictions in these very ****ed up
hypotheses. Â*As Orwell had pointed out:

** Â* Â* Â* Â*FAITH IS THEORY
** Â* Â* Â* Â*LYING IS TEACHING
** Â* Â* Â* NITWIT IS GENIUS
** Â* Â* Â* OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** Â* Â* Â*PARADOX IS KOSHER - Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** Â* Â* Â*FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** Â* Â* BULL**** IS TRUTH Â*- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** Â* Â*BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** Â* Â*MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** Â* Â*IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** Â* CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** Â* PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** Â*MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS


What's logic have to do with nature? There are plenty of logical
ideas that get shot down by observation.

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Old October 31st 11, 09:01 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Androcles[_65_]
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"Igor" wrote in message
...
On Oct 30, 12:45 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
This conversation reveals that PD, a devoted Einstein Dingleberry, is
once again putting his foot in his mouth.

Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics: A paradox is a
contradiction in logic. It should never happen in a logical and
physical universe.

PD: That is wrong. A paradox and thus a contradiction can happen in
real life without any issues and consequences, and this is called
[Voodoo] physics [where logic and consistencies are not important, and
what is at stake is the continued worship of SR and GR at any cost].
A paradox, thus a contradiction, is very much allowed with the confine
of SR and GR. So what that SR and GR have so many self-
contradictions? Contradictions, voodoo physics, and matheMagics are
the names of the game in physics in the past 100 years. shrug

KW: So, SR and GR allow self-contradictions in these very ****ed up
hypotheses. As Orwell had pointed out:

** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** PARADOX IS KOSHER ?- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH ?- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS


What's logic have to do with nature? There are plenty of logical
ideas that get shot down by observation.

==================================================
You confuse logic with plausibility, science with sci-fi, theory with
speculation, fact with fiction.
Science begins with observation (of Nature), proceeds with investigation
and produces explanation. It is not dreaming up some black hole or pink
vortex with fragrant polka dots and then go looking for one.


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Old November 3rd 11, 05:59 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
GO-HERE .NL
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On Oct 31, 9:01*pm, "Androcles" .
2011 wrote:
"Igor" wrote in message

...
On Oct 30, 12:45 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:









This conversation reveals that PD, a devoted Einstein Dingleberry, is
once again putting his foot in his mouth.


Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics: A paradox is a
contradiction in logic. It should never happen in a logical and
physical universe.


PD: That is wrong. A paradox and thus a contradiction can happen in
real life without any issues and consequences, and this is called
[Voodoo] physics [where logic and consistencies are not important, and
what is at stake is the continued worship of SR and GR at any cost].
A paradox, thus a contradiction, is very much allowed with the confine
of SR and GR. So what that SR and GR have so many self-
contradictions? Contradictions, voodoo physics, and matheMagics are
the names of the game in physics in the past 100 years. shrug


KW: So, SR and GR allow self-contradictions in these very ****ed up
hypotheses. As Orwell had pointed out:


** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** PARADOX IS KOSHER ?- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH ?- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS


What's logic have to do with nature? *There are plenty of logical
ideas that get shot down by observation.

==================================================
You confuse logic with plausibility, science with sci-fi, theory with
speculation, fact with fiction.
Science begins with observation (of Nature), proceeds with investigation
and produces explanation. It is not dreaming up some black hole or pink
vortex with fragrant polka dots and then go looking for one.


Sorry, I couldn't help myself....

First we make the picture.

http://img.go-here.nl/pink-vortex-wi...polka-dots.jpg

Then we use google search by image

http://redirect.go-here.nl?google-im...mg-result-page

Then we find:

http://www.tonas.lt/files/images/user3/3009.jpg

and

http://www.btv.cat/btvnoticies/wp-co...90b5e2d6_2.jpg

More fragrant it doesn't get

on the internet.

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Old November 3rd 11, 07:28 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
Androcles[_65_]
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"GO-HERE .NL" wrote in message
...
On Oct 31, 9:01 pm, "Androcles" .
2011 wrote:
"Igor" wrote in message

...
On Oct 30, 12:45 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:









This conversation reveals that PD, a devoted Einstein Dingleberry, is
once again putting his foot in his mouth.


Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics: A paradox is a
contradiction in logic. It should never happen in a logical and
physical universe.


PD: That is wrong. A paradox and thus a contradiction can happen in
real life without any issues and consequences, and this is called
[Voodoo] physics [where logic and consistencies are not important, and
what is at stake is the continued worship of SR and GR at any cost].
A paradox, thus a contradiction, is very much allowed with the confine
of SR and GR. So what that SR and GR have so many self-
contradictions? Contradictions, voodoo physics, and matheMagics are
the names of the game in physics in the past 100 years. shrug


KW: So, SR and GR allow self-contradictions in these very ****ed up
hypotheses. As Orwell had pointed out:


** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** PARADOX IS KOSHER ?- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH ?- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS


What's logic have to do with nature? There are plenty of logical
ideas that get shot down by observation.

==================================================
You confuse logic with plausibility, science with sci-fi, theory with
speculation, fact with fiction.
Science begins with observation (of Nature), proceeds with investigation
and produces explanation. It is not dreaming up some black hole or pink
vortex with fragrant polka dots and then go looking for one.


Sorry, I couldn't help myself....

First we make the picture.

http://img.go-here.nl/pink-vortex-wi...polka-dots.jpg

Then we use google search by image

http://redirect.go-here.nl?google-im...mg-result-page

Then we find:

http://www.tonas.lt/files/images/user3/3009.jpg

and

http://www.btv.cat/btvnoticies/wp-co...90b5e2d6_2.jpg

More fragrant it doesn't get

on the internet.
=============================================
Very good, someone went mad with Photoshop. I will add to my original
statement that the first most clever clogs explanation of the observation
will
invariably be incorrect.
http://thumbs.ifood.tv/files/images/...lka-dot-01.jpg



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Old November 5th 11, 05:17 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math,sci.astro
jim
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On Oct 30, 12:45Â*pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
This conversation reveals that PD, a devoted Einstein Dingleberry, is
once again putting his foot in his mouth.

Koobee Wublee and other scholars of physics: Â*A paradox is a
contradiction in logic. Â*It should never happen in a logical and
physical universe.


Well, but for whatever reason, there's an awesome number of people
working in science that believe logic is immune to the crankpottery
of other sciences. So, the only thing most of the people who know
how
it really works, can say is; non Euclidean Geometry, Set Theory,
Turing Machines, and Topology weren't discovered because
Calculus is infinitely logical.

Integrated Circuits and Holograms weren't built because
the Decimal System is inherently logical.

Lasers weren't built because radio is more
logical than pulses.






PD: Â*That is wrong. Â*A paradox and thus a contradiction can happen in
real life without any issues and consequences, and this is called
[Voodoo] physics [where logic and consistencies are not important, and
what is at stake is the continued worship of SR and GR at any cost].
A paradox, thus a contradiction, is very much allowed with the confine
of SR and GR. Â*So what that SR and GR have so many self-
contradictions? Â*Contradictions, voodoo physics, and matheMagics are
the names of the game in physics in the past 100 years. Â*shrug

KW: Â*So, SR and GR allow self-contradictions in these very ****ed up
hypotheses. Â*As Orwell had pointed out:

** Â* Â* Â* Â*FAITH IS THEORY
** Â* Â* Â* Â*LYING IS TEACHING
** Â* Â* Â* NITWIT IS GENIUS
** Â* Â* Â* OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** Â* Â* Â*PARADOX IS KOSHER - Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** Â* Â* Â*FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** Â* Â* BULL**** IS TRUTH Â*- Einstein Dingleberries strike again.
** Â* Â*BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** Â* Â*MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** Â* Â*IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** Â* CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** Â* PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** Â*MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS


 




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