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Earthquake Web Site - Aug 6, 2011
PROPOSED NEW EARTHQUAKE WEB SITE
Posted by E.D.G. - August 6, 2011 http://www.freewebs.com/eq-forecasting/Data.html A copy of this report has been posted to the sci.astro Newsgroup because sun and moon gravity related earthquake triggering theories will probably be discussed at this proposed new Web site. An effort is just getting started to create a new earthquake forecasting and research Web site. The primary goal of the new site would be to make it possible for independent researchers around the world plus any interested formal research groups and government agencies to more effectively work together to learn how to forecast earthquakes and also do important earthquake related research such as developing a clearer picture of how earthquakes in different parts of the world are being triggered. A major problem with many research efforts, not just ones associated with earthquakes, results from people around the world not being able to communicate or work effectively with one another. The Internet represents something of an ideal resource that could make it possible for researchers to better communicate with one another. Unfortunately, they often don't know how to develop Web sites. Or they simply don't have time to do any site development work. If this project is a success then it might serve as a helpful model for how to do research in other areas of science such as developing new sources of environmentally safe, affordable energy, and finding cures for various illnesses etc. THE OFFICIAL HOST FOR THE NEW WEB SITE There is a tentative arrangement for the official host for this new Web site to be the International Society Of Earthquake Precursors, a nonprofit group that I understand is presently based in England. They have the following Web site: http://www.isfep.com I myself don't have any formal links with that foundation or society. My part in the effort would initially include getting the new Web site organized and running. The ISEP group members unfortunately don't appear to me to know too much about Web site development. Otherwise they would probably have long ago created this type of site themselves. HOW THE NEW WEB SITE MIGHT WORK There would be one or more specially designed bulletin boards, forums, or blogs where researchers could post notes. Researchers who wanted to participate in Web site development efforts such as having their own Web page for discussing Earthquake Cloud type earthquake precursors might be given a subdirectory that they could use for that on the Web site. Then they could create entire Web pages etc. on their personal computers, attach their files to an E-mail, add a security word to the E-mail, and then send it to a specific E-mail address associated with the Web site. A CGI computer program running on the Web site would extract the Web page or picture files etc. from that E-mail and automatically store those files in that person's subdirectory. People around the world could then see the new Web page etc. by visiting the Web site. Researchers would probably also be able to get on the Internet, access a special data entry screen at the Web site, copy their files to that screen, add a security word, and hit the Submit button. Their files would then be automatically stored in their personal subdirectory at the Web site. So, a researcher would not need to have an Internet account or even his or her own computer. He or she could do all of the Web page development work by using a computer at a public library. OTHER ALREADY EXISTING RESEARCH SERVICES There are some existing groups that offer services that have some similarities to this proposed new Web site. And if anyone would like to recommend any of them for consideration then that information would be appreciated. However, there are certain features that this new Web site might have that other services do not offer. For several examples, There would not be any fee for using the service. There would be an unusually high level of personal security. Researchers would need only demonstrate that they could participate in the effort in a responsible manner. They would not need to supply any personal information such as a name, location, or even a contact E-mail address. Site activities would be monitored by ISEP personnel and others. But if a researcher wanted to remain totally anonymous, even ISEP personnel might not know whom that person was or have any contact information for him or her. So, if you were a geology professor teaching at a private university and you wanted to create a Web page where you could discuss your theories related to how earthquakes are being triggered, but the head of your department had published numerous technical papers insisting that earthquakes are completely random events, by using the new site you might be able to discuss your theories in public without getting into trouble with the boss (humor intended). THE SELECTION OF A COMMERCIAL INTERNET SERVICE The first step in this effort involves selecting a commercial Web server that would actually host the domain name for the new Web site. Squarespace http://www.squarespace.com appears to me to offer quite a few advanced Web site development resources. But their service also appears to me to be a lot more expensive than a number of other commercial servers. If anyone has any strong recommendations for other commercial servers to consider that offer unlimited bandwidth and Web page storage space and also allow people to run CGI programs on the Web site then I would be interested in hearing about them. These are expressions of my personal opinion. They are not necessarily the opinions of ISEP personnel. ISEP personnel will need to give final approval for the project before it actually gets started. At the moment it is just in the discussion phase. Regards to all, E.D.G. |
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Earthquake Web Site - Aug 6, 2011
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
... Last time I'd posted links to your earthquake prediction stuff, Google Groups version of Usenet/newsgroups went down. Perhaps that's still the case. Posted by E.D.G. August 7, 2011 I am afraid that I don't know enough about how the Internet works to propose why such things might happen. |
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Earthquake Web Site - Aug 6, 2011
"E.D.G." wrote in
: I am afraid that I don't know enough about how the Internet works... Which explains a lot about why the WAY you propose to implement this web site idea of yours to work is... well... let's just say you're making things more complex than they need to be. Based on the things you've described as wanting to be able to do on this website, existing web forum software already exists that can do or be adapted to do all those things - and they're free!! This should give you a place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...forum_software Brian -- http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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Earthquake Web Site - Aug 6, 2011
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
... Do you have any list of individuals, geology groups or government agencies that happen to hate whatever you have to say? Posted by E.D.G. August 7, 2011 As an experienced scientist I work on trying to help solve or at least manage a wide variety of problems that threaten the health and lives of people around the world. And one of the biggest surprises that I have ever had in many years of doing scientific work was my eventual arriving at the conclusion that the science of forecasting earthquakes and to a certain extent, earthquake research in general, is largely controlled by a complex maze of government and international scientific community politics rather than true science, logic, and the laws of the universe. One of the major goals of this proposed new Web site would be to try to help separate earthquake forecasting science from all of the politics so that some progress can be made. The information at my existing Web sites is fairly bland. And it would be difficult to see how anyone could get upset by it. However, there are so many governments, research groups, and individual researchers who have their own agendas with regard to this science that it would be difficult or impossible to tell who likes or dislikes whom and what the different parties are able or willing to do. These are personal opinions. E.D.G. |
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Earthquake Web Site - Aug 6, 2011
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
... Public funded agencies are in a fight for their lives, so that pretty much anything goes as long as only they get the credit for all the good stuff, and thereby receive all of the public loot they can grab, because otherwise they are unemployable. Clearly you are a threat to that outcome where they win and the likes of outsiders always lose. Posted by E.D.G. August 8, 2011 If there are any government agencies or other public agencies that are opposed to the work that I am doing then in my opinion they are making a major mistake. I have always been very strongly supportive of governments providing funding for their own agencies and also for outside groups that work on projects that intended to help solve or at least attempt to manage problems that threaten the lives and health of people around the world. One of the major problems here is that because of their fear of criticism or controversy, people running government agencies are often so conservative with regard to what they are willing to do that they enter into a state of paralysis. And their already existing funding can eventually get cut because their superiors don't see that any progress is being made. A good way to get those government agencies moving is to demonstrate at some public Web site etc. that effective progress can be made with some life threatening problem such as forecasting earthquakes, without frightening the general public. Government agency personnel can then go to their superiors and say, "If the people running that Web site can do that type of work without causing problem then you should allow Us to do that same type of work." And with luck their bosses will then give them both approval and some additional funding. So, a major goal of this proposed new Web site would be to demonstrate to various government agencies around the world how they can do earthquake forecasting research etc. without getting into political hot water. These are personal opinions. |
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Earthquake Web Site - Aug 6, 2011
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
... My advice is to start up your own public Usenet/newsgroup as hosted by Google Groups, because those seem to be working just fine and dandy, and you Posted by E.D.G. August 10, 2011 Thanks for the suggestions. This project would need quite a bit of Internet power including the ability to run customized CGI programs at a Web site. The basic structure of the project looks like it is now fairly well organized. The various parties involved just need to get moving. This has to be a cooperative effort. I don't plan to try doing the work on my own. |
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Earthquake Web Site - Aug 6, 2011
On Aug 10, 10:09*am, "E.D.G." wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message ... My advice is to start up your own public Usenet/newsgroup as hosted by Google Groups, because those seem to be working just fine and dandy, and you Posted by E.D.G. August 10, 2011 Thanks for the suggestions. * * * *This project would need quite a bit of Internet power including the ability to run customized CGI programs at a Web site. *The basic structure of the project looks like it is now fairly well organized. *The various parties involved just need to get moving. *This has to be a cooperative effort. *I don't plan to try doing the work on my own. |
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Earthquake Web Site - Aug 6, 2011
On Aug 10, 10:09*am, "E.D.G." wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message ... My advice is to start up your own public Usenet/newsgroup as hosted by Google Groups, because those seem to be working just fine and dandy, and you Thanks for the suggestions. Hardly the bread of heaven at the moment. The trouble with Google is their secrecy. Everyone knows it goes down badly once a year but everyone thinks it is splendid. It's that sort of thinking that made Bill Gates rich infamous. |
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