There is no such thing as time dilation

On Jul 23, 6:57*am, PD wrote:
On Jul 23, 2:44*am, Koobee Wublee wrote:









On Jul 22, 2:12 pm, Poutnik wrote:

PD wrote:
Actually, the GPS is a good demonstration that time dilation DOES exist.
You've agreed to this before but said that it is not a good example of
MUTUAL time dilation. That's fine. Not all time dilation in SR is mutual
time dilation, and GPS isn't expected to show mutual time dilation.

Note that GPS is a great example of combination
of SR time dilation, and GR time speeding up.

This is just not true. *It is only a silly myth to justify the worship
of GR. *shrug

First of all, the synchronization has to be achieved is not the clock
itself but the time keeping counter which is accumulated by this
clock. *Thus, synchronization of time is merely a software issue.
shrug

In reality, it is does not matter how you set the clocks that
accumulate the time counters in these satellites to be ever so
different from the ground clocks, as long as all the satellites get
the treatment, the decoding algorithm that decodes the GPS data
acquired from at least 4 satellites is very independent of the surface
of the earth. *shrug

Yes, in other words, it doesn't matter what causes the
desynchronization as long as you're making a correction for it anyway.
This is the true engineer's solution -- who cares why it happens, just
fix it ad hoc and be done with it.
All the better to do that so that you don't have to acknowledge the
reason for why it happens, especially if that reason grates on your
nerves.


Thus, GPS is a very ****-poor means to justify for the nonsense of
GR. *The ones who suggest otherwise are just ignorant. *The math
involved although very grungy in the mechanics is actually very simple
in concept. *shrug

Exactly. Make adjustments as they would have to do because of all the
significant and measurable global modulation from our sun and moon
that's continually distorting our mostly fluid and flexible planet...

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wow, what an empty bunch of fluff, to attack relativity,
which is really just an emendation of a)
Liebniz's KE = (1/2)mvv, and b)
the gallilean principle, applied
to the ultimate (internal) angular momenta of atoms.

as far as we know,
half of Universe is antimatter,
as far as we can see.

How about a lack or deficiency of dark/clear matter causes lensing
other than created by whatever antimatter creates black holes.

the mantle isn't fluid, as far as we know,
from seismology;
there is a doctrine of a "fluid mantle
over a geological timescale" but, so,
What?

that's continually distorting our mostly fluid and flexible planet...

PD wrote:
On Jul 23, 2:44 am, Koobee Wublee wrote:

Note that GPS is a great example of combination
of SR time dilation, and GR time speeding up.

This is just not true. It is only a silly myth to justify the worship
of GR. shrug

First of all, the synchronization has to be achieved is not the clock
itself but the time keeping counter which is accumulated by this
clock. Thus, synchronization of time is merely a software issue.
shrug

In reality, it is does not matter how you set the clocks that
accumulate the time counters in these satellites to be ever so
different from the ground clocks, as long as all the satellites get
the treatment, the decoding algorithm that decodes the GPS data
acquired from at least 4 satellites is very independent of the surface
of the earth. shrug

Yes, in other words, it doesn't matter what causes the
desynchronization as long as you're making a correction for it anyway.

Your usage of desynchronization is too vague and very much off topic.
Off synchronization of time keeping is the issue over here. It is
purely a synchronization of counters/accumulators not clocks. Once
again, clocks are what drives or accumulate counters. Get it? If
that is understood, any synchronization of counters is just a software
issue. Self-styled physicists seem not to be able to understand this
simple point. shrug

This is the true engineer's solution -- who cares why it happens, just
fix it ad hoc and be done with it.

Synchronization of counters is an engineering issue. Self-styled
physicists foaming with fermented diarrhea of Einstein the nitwit, the
plagiarist, and the liar have no clue as where to begin. So, they
jump on this clock synchronization bull****. shrug

All the better to do that so that you don't have to acknowledge the
reason for why it happens, especially if that reason grates on your
nerves.

PD can only bull****. If his bull**** is exposed, he switches to
bluffing. If his bluffs are called, he starts to lie. Lying is not
teaching, but PD and self-styled physicists continue to practice the
following:

** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** PARADOX IS KOSHER
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS

shrug

Thus, GPS is a very ****-poor means to justify for the nonsense of
GR. The ones who suggest otherwise are just ignorant. The math
involved although very grungy in the mechanics is actually very simple
in concept. shrug

.... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHA... ahahahaha....

"Koobee Wublee" wrote:
PD wrote:
On Jul 23, 2:44 am, Koobee Wublee wrote:

Note that GPS is a great example of combination
of SR time dilation, and GR time speeding up.

This is just not true. It is only a silly myth to justify the worship
of GR. shrug

First of all, the synchronization has to be achieved is not the clock
itself but the time keeping counter which is accumulated by this
clock. Thus, synchronization of time is merely a software issue.
shrug

In reality, it is does not matter how you set the clocks that
accumulate the time counters in these satellites to be ever so
different from the ground clocks, as long as all the satellites get
the treatment, the decoding algorithm that decodes the GPS data
acquired from at least 4 satellites is very independent of the surface
of the earth. shrug

Yes, in other words, it doesn't matter what causes the
desynchronization as long as you're making a correction for it anyway.

Your usage of desynchronization is too vague and very much off topic.
Off synchronization of time keeping is the issue over here. It is
purely a synchronization of counters/accumulators not clocks. Once
again, clocks are what drives or accumulate counters. Get it? If
that is understood, any synchronization of counters is just a software
issue. Self-styled physicists seem not to be able to understand this
simple point. shrug

This is the true engineer's solution -- who cares why it happens, just
fix it ad hoc and be done with it.

Synchronization of counters is an engineering issue. Self-styled
physicists foaming with fermented diarrhea of Einstein the nitwit, the
plagiarist, and the liar have no clue as where to begin. So, they
jump on this clock synchronization bull****. shrug

All the better to do that so that you don't have to acknowledge the
reason for why it happens, especially if that reason grates on your
nerves.

PD can only bull****. If his bull**** is exposed, he switches to
bluffing. If his bluffs are called, he starts to lie. Lying is not
teaching, but PD and self-styled physicists continue to practice the
following:

** FAITH IS THEORY
** LYING IS TEACHING
** NITWIT IS GENIUS
** OCCULT IS SCIENCE
** PARADOX IS KOSHER
** FUDGING IS DERIVATION
** BULL**** IS TRUTH
** BELIEVING IS LEARNING
** MYSTICISM IS WISDOM
** IGNORANCE IS KNOWLEDGE
** CONJECTURE IS REALITY
** PLAGIARISM IS CREATIVITY
** MATHEMAGICS IS MATHEMATICS

shrug

Thus, GPS is a very ****-poor means to justify for the nonsense of
GR. The ones who suggest otherwise are just ignorant. The math
involved although very grungy in the mechanics is actually very simple
in concept. shrug

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love you dearly, but the game between you and KW
stands now at least at:

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Carry on. and thanks for the laughs, guys...
AHAHAHA... ahahahaha... ahahahanson

PS:
.... that 137 refers to the ~ reciprocal Fine Structure
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anyway, all you are really saying is that
a spherical (2d) map is not adequate
to model plate tectonics;
if the seismology is allowed to show such a thing,
"on a geological timescale," that's a problem.

Are you nuts?

I was referring to the OP, but, yes,
that is fluff. antimatter is antifluff;
gravity is totally fluffuvial.

why would anything want to "go at 2c?"

Is the dark/clear Aether now classified as "fluff"?

Perhaps the most logical reason why this "fluff" is invisible or
making normal stuff act weird, is only because it's moving or flowing
at 2c.

that is a humorous hypothesis;
can you prove it with piano arithmetic --
not Peano arothmetic?

purely a synchronization of counters/accumulators not clocks. *Once
again, clocks are what drives or accumulate counters. *Get it? *If
that is understood, any synchronization of counters is just a software
issue. *Self-styled physicists seem not to be able to understand this
simple point. *shrug

Thanks for nullifying my point so awefully.

just a software issue,
spoken like a true geek. seriously,
edanken xperiments almost never bother
with simple software issues, nor OSes,
nor a particular language ... although
there's an awful lot of ** in Latin,
especially the trivium!

so, stick with double pendular -- as a check
on the putative theory.

Why bother going anywhere as slow as c?

Velocity doesn't cause human DNA/RNA to vanish, just like pressure or vacuum
doesn't eliminate the basic function of DNA/RNA.

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I was referring to the OP, but, yes,
that is fluff. antimatter is antifluff;
gravity is totally fluffuvial.

why would anything want to "go at 2c?"

Is the dark/clear Aether now classified as "fluff"?

Perhaps the most logical reason why this "fluff" is invisible or
making normal stuff act weird, is only because it's moving or flowing
at 2c.