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Old April 21st 04, 06:51 PM
Derek Lyons
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jeff findley wrote:
There are plenty of people who want to go, despite the risk. It's
part of human nature to explore. Early explorers faced similar risks
when they set sail over the oceans, yet this didn't seem to stop those
missions. Just because you think its too risky doesn't mean the
missions aren't worth the risk.


It's part of the make up of an vanishingly tiny part of the human
race. The early explorers weren't exploring they were seeking
commercial gain, which changes the perceptions of risk greatly.

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Old April 21st 04, 08:56 PM
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There are none in reserve, but the pipeline -- about 30 to 36 months from
'laying the keel' to launch,
is full of enough vehicles to launch at the current rate indefinitely.



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Jim - If you can, find out how many Soyuz are in inventory and how many
are in work....and their completion dates. I have a hunch that they are
low on vehicles. Thx.




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Old April 21st 04, 08:56 PM
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"Anthony Frost" wrote in message
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Are the ESA astronauts trained up as full Soyuz commanders? I understood
they were only return commanders, trained to undock and land but not
rendevous and docking.



Excellent question. Can anybody follow up on this?



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Old April 21st 04, 11:34 PM
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Are the ESA astronauts trained up as full Soyuz commanders? I understood
they were only return commanders, trained to undock and land but not
rendevous and docking.



Excellent question. Can anybody follow up on this?


Actually, he is correct about this. They are return commanders only.

doh!

Dave


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Old April 22nd 04, 10:05 AM
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On 21 Apr 2004 22:34:09 GMT, Dave Fowler wrote:


Are the ESA astronauts trained up as full Soyuz commanders? I understood
they were only return commanders, trained to undock and land but not
rendevous and docking.



Excellent question. Can anybody follow up on this?


Actually, he is correct about this. They are return commanders only.


How long does full commander training take?

How soon (theoretically, political considerations aside) could an ESA
astro command a crew exchange flight, particularly an astro who already
has basic Soyuz training?


John.

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Old April 22nd 04, 11:53 AM
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But seriously, there does seem to be a bad rash of chicken-little
thinking going on here. If Chiao doesn't want to be away from his
family for a whole year, **** him -- find one of the astronauts who
doesn't mind and give the flight to him/her. If the doctors are playing
chicken little, find doctors who can judge based on the facts and not
their "g


Ahh its one thing to go somewhere on a long flight thats useful, like mars,
thats justifable.

Its altogether different to spend a year orbiting earth endlessely, away from
family and friends, possibly causing long term health troubles, definetely
damaging your hearing from the poorly designed too noisey station. ALL so
russia can make a few bucks...
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Old April 23rd 04, 12:38 AM
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NASA's first experience with long term (greater than one year) space
flight ought not to be on the first mission to Mars. That is a
recipe for failure. It would be far better to gain this experience in
LEO, where evacuation to Earth is less than a day away, than on a trip
to Mars where such an abort simply won't be possible.

Jeff


Hey we AGREE on this one! I think a all up spiraling flight to a asteroid or a
long duration run in the mars transit vehicle while still in earth orbit,

They could automatuically add in a audio time delay and have no windows looking
at earth.

Whatever the vehicle it shouldnt be so loud to do permanent hearing damage
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