UK Beagle space probe ruined because it used unwiedly solar panels

On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 01:31:15 -0000, "Pastor Ravi Holy of Ghetti Spa,
Los Agña" wrote this crap:




Yeah, right. Scottish smoked salmon and Cornish clotted cream for me, washed
down with Glenlivet and Newcastle Brown. I'll also take an American Sam
Adams, they are not
ALL bad.

Do you have that with spotted dick?


This signature is now the ultimate
power in the universe

On 17/01/2015 01:50, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 16 January 2015 13:50:26 UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:
On 16/01/2015 18:18, wrote:
On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 11:54:28 AM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

Sigh. A problem easily avoided by using a small, portable nuclear power supply.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/16/world/...und/index.html

It was all done on a shoestring budget. That it soft landed without
being smashed to smithereens was a serious achievement. It is a shame
that Prof Pillinger didn't live to see that it had arrived on Mars.

Oh! Another probe that accomplished something, like the comet-lander...only to be DONE IN by ridiculous solar power.
The problem with the Beagle was its configuration. It is INSANE to
have expected such a complex solar panel configuration to have unfolded
properly.

Only part right. The problem which stopped it communicating was that the
high gain antenna was under the solar panels so they all had to deploy
before it could do ET phone home. A low gain antenna elsewhere might
have saved the mission albeit getting data away very slowly.

It is a shame they didn't get to do a Beagle III they came *SO* close to
success!

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:52:59 -0700, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:18:31 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Why do the British drink warm beer?

They don't. They just don't drink ice cold beer. Because ice cold
beer
is disgusting. Unless you like disgusting beer to begin with, in
which
case being ice cold helps mask the flavor.

Those who don't like the flavor of beer may prefer ice cold beer
because of that. BTW "disgusting" is a value judgement, not an
objective fact.

"Martin Brown" wrote in message ...

On 17/01/2015 01:50, RichA wrote:
On Friday, 16 January 2015 13:50:26 UTC-5, Martin Brown wrote:
On 16/01/2015 18:18, wrote:
On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 11:54:28 AM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

Sigh. A problem easily avoided by using a small, portable nuclear
power supply.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/16/world/...und/index.html

It was all done on a shoestring budget. That it soft landed without
being smashed to smithereens was a serious achievement. It is a shame
that Prof Pillinger didn't live to see that it had arrived on Mars.

Oh! Another probe that accomplished something, like the
comet-lander...only to be DONE IN by ridiculous solar power.
The problem with the Beagle was its configuration. It is INSANE to
have expected such a complex solar panel configuration to have unfolded
properly.

Only part right. The problem which stopped it communicating was that the
high gain antenna was under the solar panels so they all had to deploy
before it could do ET phone home. A low gain antenna elsewhere might have
saved the mission albeit getting data away very slowly.

It is a shame they didn't get to do a Beagle III they came *SO* close to
success!

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Did you know RichA's wife has to polish a urethane coated four and a half
inch vise with a small, portable nuclear power supply to turn the handle,
bolted on their dining room table beside the Waterford crystal bowl of
walnuts, in case his sledgehammer breaks?
http://www.micro-machine-shop.com/vise_bench_4.5_in.jpg
http://www.fallers.com/products/wate...inch-bowl.html

If my foresight was as powerful as RichA's hindsight I'd be Prophet Errol.

--Prophet Errol of Ghetti Spa, Los Agña, Santa Gria
ria
Je suis charlie!

"Paul Schlyter" wrote in message
.. .

On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:52:59 -0700, Chris L Peterson
wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:18:31 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Why do the British drink warm beer?

They don't. They just don't drink ice cold beer. Because ice cold
beer
is disgusting. Unless you like disgusting beer to begin with, in
which
case being ice cold helps mask the flavor.

Those who don't like the flavor of beer may prefer ice cold beer because
of that. BTW "disgusting" is a value judgement, not an objective fact.

There is no one single flavour of beer, beer has more varieties than wine.
Read this before you make a value judgment based on temperature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer


-- Pastor Ravi Holy of Ghetti Spa, Los Agña, Santa Gria
ria
Je suis charlie!

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 6:52:59 PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:18:31 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:

Why do the British drink warm beer?

They don't. They just don't drink ice cold beer. Because ice cold beer
is disgusting. Unless you like disgusting beer to begin with, in which
case being ice cold helps mask the flavor.

No self-respecting restaurant or microbrewery in the U.S. serves ice
cold beer, either.

Leave it to a nerd to take every question literally!

The correct "answer" is that the fridges are built by the same company that makes their domestic cars' electrical systems.

(Maybe its an urban legend but did they really wire the ignition systems in series with the tail-lights?)

On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 4:17:10 AM UTC-5, Paul Schlyter wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:52:59 -0700, Chris L Peterson
wrote:

Because ice cold
beer
is disgusting. Unless you like disgusting beer to begin with, in
which
case being ice cold helps mask the flavor.

Those who don't like the flavor of beer may prefer ice cold beer
because of that. BTW "disgusting" is a value judgement, not an
objective fact.

/begin sarcasm
/Remember, socialists ALWAYS know what's best for all and what others should and shouldn't like.
/end sarcasm

wrote:
On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 4:17:10 AM UTC-5, Paul Schlyter wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:52:59 -0700, Chris L Peterson
wrote:

Because ice cold
beer
is disgusting. Unless you like disgusting beer to begin with, in
which
case being ice cold helps mask the flavor.

Those who don't like the flavor of beer may prefer ice cold beer
because of that. BTW "disgusting" is a value judgement, not an
objective fact.

/begin sarcasm
/Remember, socialists ALWAYS know what's best for all and what others
should and shouldn't like.
/end sarcasm

"Everywhere I hear the sound of palace revolution / But where I live the
game to play is compromise solution"

Some beer tastes better at room temperature, some tastes better cold,some
is OK at both extremes.

In North America it can be an advantage to prefer beer at room temperature.
In a Canadian hotel bar I bought a beer, the bartender asked had I liked
it. I replied that it was good but I would have preferred it at room
temperature so he then siad that he had just changed a barrel and the they
were about to fill some glasses with beer until the temperature had cooled.
So he offered me that beer free.
It was better at room temperature.

On Saturday, 17 January 2015 13:10:01 UTC+1, wrote:
/begin sarcasm
/Remember, socialists ALWAYS know what's best for all and what others should and shouldn't like.
/end sarcasm

According to basic human rights, each man may freely worship his own dictator.
The view is much the same when seen from beneath the grinding jackboot.
Whether it be worn by communist, capitalist, religious or fascist, thought policemen.
Much of what we do is ruled by fear of something.
Fear of discovery greatly outweighs the fear of sanction.
The dictator will level mountains, of bodies, to avoid self-discovery.
The International Court of Human Rights will move mountains to avoid prosecuting a dictator.

On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 3:29:49 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
wrote:
On Saturday, January 17, 2015 at 4:17:10 AM UTC-5, Paul Schlyter wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:52:59 -0700, Chris L Peterson
wrote:

Because ice cold
beer
is disgusting. Unless you like disgusting beer to begin with, in
which
case being ice cold helps mask the flavor.

Those who don't like the flavor of beer may prefer ice cold beer
because of that. BTW "disgusting" is a value judgement, not an
objective fact.

/begin sarcasm
/Remember, socialists ALWAYS know what's best for all and what others
should and shouldn't like.
/end sarcasm

"Everywhere I hear the sound of palace revolution / But where I live the
game to play is compromise solution"


Don't mistake compromise for the convictions of the mediocre who never raised themselves above conjuring disturbances and disasters for their own ends.. Genuine empiricists always recognized it when they saw it although they have been few and far between -

"Instead of seeking to discover the mean or medium point, around which oscillate, in apparent independence of forces, all the phenomena of the external world, this system delights in multiplying exceptions to the law, and seeks, amid phenomena and in organic forms, for something beyond the marvel of a regular succession, and an internal and progressive development. Ever inclined to believe that the order of nature is disturbed, it refuses to recognise in the present any analogy with the past, and guided by its own varying hypotheses, seeks at hazard, either in the interior of the globe or in the regions of space, for the cause of these pretended perturbations. It is the special object of the present work to combat those errors which derive their source from a vicious empiricism and from imperfect inductions." Von Humboldt ,Cosmos

Those words contain hope as it is always a struggle against those who would diminish that great spirit which connects the individual to their terrestrial and astronomical surroundings in a meaningful way.