Yes Oriel, the Earth does rotate on its axis

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1208...24Schwartz.jpg

On Aug 2, 12:25*pm, Uncarollo2 wrote:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1208...24Schwartz.jpg

Image was taken at the exact south pole

On Aug 2, 7:25*pm, Uncarollo2 wrote:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1208...24Schwartz.jpg

You look at stellar circumpolar motion and conclude that each
consecutive return of a star equates to one rotation however,even at
its widest and rawest,that conclusion is found within the structure of
1461 days across 4 years and 4 complete circuits of the Earth around
the Sun,in other words it is suppose to alert you to purest and most
fundamental fact of all - that enclosed in 4 orbital circuits the
Earth does not turn 1460 times but close enough to 1461 times.

The image with smaller and smaller circuits is highly useful for
determining constant axial alignment throughout an annual cycle so you
look elsewhere for why the declination of the Sun varies with
latitude,negligible at the equatorial coordinates and extreme at the
polar latitudes and that is when the curtain rises on the additional
axis around which the polar coordinates turn.

The climate business in its current hideous form is nothing other than
a statement about astronomy,not local politics,not carbon dioxide
levels,not about graphs or speculation but simply the absence of
astronomy in any meaningful shape other than a playground for
astrophotographers.The stranglehold of mathematical theorists dumping
junk into the celestial arena was bound to produce this living
nightmare where the association between all the effects in one 24 hour
cycle and one rotation of the planet are lost to your stellar
circumpolar view that the Earth turns 1465 times in 1461 days.

Stand your ground and discuss the issue for once otherwise join the
sterility of Brown,Schlyter and all those who couldn't interpret an
effect to save their lives and they know it.

Uncarollo2 wrote in news:86730f7a-44a7-4d10-bc59-
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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1208...24Schwartz.jpg

Oriel is nothing more than a troll.

Even when you happen to agree with part of something he says*,
he will still argue with you, as just happened with me over
in sci.geo.earthquakes. Funny thing is, the moment I pointed
that out and called him on it, he disappeared.

*He does get the definition of a Solar Day correct in general,
but irrationally denies the existence of the Sidereal Day.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

"Uncarollo2" wrote in message
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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1208...24Schwartz.jpg

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If it didn't rotate on its axis it wouldn't have an axis.

"Skywise" wrote in message news
Uncarollo2 wrote in news:86730f7a-44a7-4d10-bc59-
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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1208...24Schwartz.jpg

Oriel is nothing more than a troll.

Even when you happen to agree with part of something he says*,
he will still argue with you, as just happened with me over
in sci.geo.earthquakes. Funny thing is, the moment I pointed
that out and called him on it, he disappeared.

*He does get the definition of a Solar Day correct in general,
but irrationally denies the existence of the Sidereal Day.

Brian
--
A troll wouldn't disappear when he's enjoying himself. Kelleher isn't
a troll, he's autistic. Yes, he's irrational, but he can't help it.
..
Autism is a lifelong developmental disability that affects how a person
communicates with, and relates to, other people. It also affects how they
make sense of the world around them.

It is a spectrum condition, which means that, while all people with autism
share certain difficulties, their condition will affect them in different
ways. Some people with autism are able to live relatively independent lives
but others may have accompanying learning disabilities and need a lifetime
of specialist support. People with autism may also experience over- or
under-sensitivity to sounds, touch, tastes, smells, light or colours.

http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autis...is-autism.aspx

On Aug 2, 8:10*pm, Skywise wrote:
Uncarollo2 wrote in news:86730f7a-44a7-4d10-bc59-
:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1208...24Schwartz.jpg

Oriel is nothing more than a troll.

Even when you happen to agree with part of something he says*,
he will still argue with you, as just happened with me over
in sci.geo.earthquakes. Funny thing is, the moment I pointed
that out and called him on it, he disappeared.

*He does get the definition of a Solar Day correct in general,
*but irrationally denies the existence of the Sidereal Day.

Brian
--http://www.skywise711.com- Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

How many nuisances have come and gone -

https://groups.google.com/group/sci....7ca027c?hl=en#

It appears that none of you can move to the next level and are stuck
with a conclusion that is merely an extension of the clockwork
calendar system designed around the progression of 24 hour days in 4
years,which ultimately through a great deal of sorting and
sifting,translates into 1461 rotations enclosed in 4 orbital circuits.

There is no astronomy,no evolutionary geology,no climate studies as
these things rely heavily on planetary dynamics.

So,anyone wish to try their hand at the annual return of Sirius
coincident with the flooding of the Nile and why they realized that to
maintain the days fixed to the orital points of solstices and
equinoxes,it was not possible to rely on a system of consecutive 365
days.

As for you,well,better stick with your 1465 rotations in 1461 days and
your puny graphics.

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:10:28 GMT, Skywise
wrote:

Oriel is nothing more than a troll.

Even when you happen to agree with part of something he says...

If you find yourself actually understanding something he says well
enough to agree with it, you should be worried. Very worried.

On Aug 2, 8:35*pm, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:10:28 GMT, Skywise
wrote:

Oriel is nothing more than a troll.

Even when you happen to agree with part of something he says...

If you find yourself actually understanding something he says well
enough to agree with it, you should be worried. Very worried.

It is quite a sight watching guys kill themselves trying to make
planetary dynamics fit with stellar circumpolar motion on one side and
then mouth off about climate on the other considering that it is
impossible to discuss climate or any terrestrial science where
planetary dynamics are involved without first acknowledging a simple
fact.The sheer hostility towards something as normal as a rotating
Earth and all the effects within a 24 hour period is hardly a good
sign for revisiting the developmental timeline which begins with the
calendar cycle and an annual meteorological event (flooding of the
Nile) and the eventual incorporation of the 24 hour AM/PM cycle and
the Lat/Long system.I don't think that even comprehending the Ra/Dec
extensions which comprise of the image in the original post is in
anyway difficult,not at all and once dealt with,it becomes possible to
do something productive and creative for a change.

In many high tech engineering industries when a problem exists,it is
customary to look at the flow of information and look at junctures
where problems exist,the proper perspective is that stellar
circumpolar motion is an ideal way to prove that the daily rotational
alignment stays constant but does not prove constant rotation,that
precession as an axial trait is disproven and gets shifted to an
orbital feature and the flow of information moves in many directions
and towards many ends from terrestrial sciences to large scale
astronomical modifications.

Talent is always acquired with effort and especially in astronomy and
while mathematicians,at least those who follow a particular cult
agenda may try to mimic the intricacies and the complexities of
astronomy,most already know they are out of their depth while others
can just work comfortably with the material.It is nothing personal,it
is a feature of the Universal personality to know the difference
between cartoon novelties and the genuine satisfaction astronomy gives
- it is apolitical as all human achievements at that level are.

Far from the screaming of human control over global temperature is the
simple astronomical fact that the huge daily temperature fluctuations
are due to a single and simple motion of the Earth and these
fluctuations and rotations never fall out of step for all the billions
of years life has existed on this planet and where only local effects
temporarily intervene.

On Aug 2, 7:26*pm, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Aug 2, 12:25*pm, Uncarollo2 wrote:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1208...24Schwartz.jpg

Image was taken at the exact south pole

Here is one from Namibia showing the usual homocentric feature as a
telescope tracks the motion of the stars using its own axis -

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap060915.html

I am surprised that nobody has reached the level where alignment is
safe but fail to understand that stellar circumpolar motion does not
prove constant rotation, none of the other observations fit together
and especially the variations in the natural noon cycle on which the
correlation between natural noon AM/PM and 24 hour AM/PM is founded.

Do you want to pretend the Earth turns to noon in 24 hours in order to
bridge a 3 minute 56 second difference to the return of a star within
a steady progression of 24 hours days within the 365/366 day calendar
system?.

Without the fundamentals of timekeeping and its development from the
calendar system up to the Ra/Dec extensions,you may all forget climate
studies and if you are hopelessly lost with the experiences within a
24 hour period as one rotation of the planet as separate to its
orbital motion then you lose the nmandate to discuss anything to do
with science.