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Venus and Saturn?
The sky map I looked at is all wrong.
Saturn at about 05:30 UTC was easily 2 or 3 degrees away from Venus as they were setting. The sky map shows them to be a lot closer..what gives? http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Yoursky |
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On Jul 1, 9:19 am, "mitch" wrote:
The sky map I looked at is all wrong. Saturn at about 05:30 UTC was easily 2 or 3 degrees away from Venus as they were setting. The sky map shows them to be a lot closer..what gives?http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Yoursky They were both in a medium-power telescope field last night (0500 UTC 1 July), and will be closer tonight. Venus was a fat crescent, and Saturn was a little yellow ball with a washer around it. The two planets were almost vertical. Maybe something is wrong with your observing? Laura Halliday VE7LDH "That's a totally illegal, Grid: CN89mg madcap scheme. I like it!" ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - H. Pearce |
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Mitch,
You may be a day premature. For us in Europe, things get close this evening with a separation of about 0.5 degrees. Anthony. mitch wrote: The sky map I looked at is all wrong. Saturn at about 05:30 UTC was easily 2 or 3 degrees away from Venus as they were setting. The sky map shows them to be a lot closer..what gives? http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Yoursky |
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"laura halliday" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 1, 9:19 am, "mitch" wrote: The sky map I looked at is all wrong. Saturn at about 05:30 UTC was easily 2 or 3 degrees away from Venus as they were setting. The sky map shows them to be a lot closer..what gives?http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Yoursky They were both in a medium-power telescope field last night (0500 UTC 1 July), and will be closer tonight. Venus was a fat crescent, and Saturn was a little yellow ball with a washer around it. The two planets were almost vertical. Maybe something is wrong with your observing? Nope..I observed at 40 - 150 X's in daylight mid and late afternoon in Calgary and was puzzled I didn't see Saturn till late evening and quite separated. |
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On Jul 1, 12:19 pm, "mitch" wrote:
The sky map I looked at is all wrong. Saturn at about 05:30 UTC was easily 2 or 3 degrees away from Venus as they were setting. I suspect you're suffering from the Moon illusion, where things (including planet pairings) look bigger (or farther) than they really are when close to the horizon. In fact, Saturn and Venus are still just under 1 degree apart as I write this. They have been closer than 2 degrees since 11 UT on Thursday, June 28. - Tony Flanders |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 1, 12:19 pm, "mitch" wrote: The sky map I looked at is all wrong. Saturn at about 05:30 UTC was easily 2 or 3 degrees away from Venus as they were setting. I suspect you're suffering from the Moon illusion, where things (including planet pairings) look bigger (or farther) than they really are when close to the horizon. In fact, Saturn and Venus are still just under 1 degree apart as I write this. They have been closer than 2 degrees since 11 UT on Thursday, June 28. - Tony Flanders Cloudiness was the problem last night but I did see them . |
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"Glenn Holliday" wrote in message news:eJhii.5956$vG2.3394@trnddc02... mitch wrote: Saturn at about 05:30 UTC was easily 2 or 3 degrees away from Venus as they were setting. The sky map shows them to be a lot closer..what gives? On Saturday evening in the eastern U.S. I photographed and measured them about a finger width apart, Saturn above Venus. -- Above?!? When I observed them, Venus was above Saturn. Upstream, Matthew Ota's picture also shows this relationship. Color me confused. |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:55:01 GMT, "John Nichols"
wrote: Above?!? When I observed them, Venus was above Saturn. Upstream, Matthew Ota's picture also shows this relationship. Color me confused. I don't know what you were looking at, but Saturn has been above Venus for a long time, it was above it on Saturday, and remains above it tonight (Jul 2). Sometime tomorrow they will have the same altitude, and then for a few weeks Venus will be higher. Matthew's picture is clearly rotated. Check the images on Spaceweather, such as this: http://www.spaceweather.com/archive....h=07&year=2007 for examples of what you should have seen. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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Is Saturn crapping on Venus?? "Chris L Peterson" wrote in message ... On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:55:01 GMT, "John Nichols" wrote: Above?!? When I observed them, Venus was above Saturn. Upstream, Matthew Ota's picture also shows this relationship. Color me confused. I don't know what you were looking at, but Saturn has been above Venus for a long time, it was above it on Saturday, and remains above it tonight (Jul 2). Sometime tomorrow they will have the same altitude, and then for a few weeks Venus will be higher. Matthew's picture is clearly rotated. Check the images on Spaceweather, such as this: http://www.spaceweather.com/archive....h=07&year=2007 for examples of what you should have seen. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com |
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