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Old June 19th 18, 08:32 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Quadibloc
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....to see the possible effects of higher carbon dioxide levels.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...ing-something/

It's possible to observe what similar carbon dioxide levels had in the past.

As the article notes, the situation is different. The increased carbon dioxide
levels had time to have their full ultimate effects - and because they didn't
happen rapidly, they didn't lead to carbon dioxide being dissolved by the ocean,
causing temporary acidification. (So we can expect all that carbon dioxide now
dissolved in the ocean to soon enough come out again...)

John Savard
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Old June 21st 18, 06:39 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, 19 June 2018 21:32:21 UTC+2, Quadibloc wrote:
...to see the possible effects of higher carbon dioxide levels.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...ing-something/

It's possible to observe what similar carbon dioxide levels had in the past.

As the article notes, the situation is different. The increased carbon dioxide
levels had time to have their full ultimate effects - and because they didn't
happen rapidly, they didn't lead to carbon dioxide being dissolved by the ocean,
causing temporary acidification. (So we can expect all that carbon dioxide now
dissolved in the ocean to soon enough come out again...)

John Savard


We just need to add enough sugar.
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Old June 21st 18, 11:55 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Gary Harnagel
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On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 1:32:21 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
...to see the possible effects of higher carbon dioxide levels.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...ing-something/

It's possible to observe what similar carbon dioxide levels had in the past.

As the article notes, the situation is different. The increased carbon
dioxide levels had time to have their full ultimate effects - and because
they didn't happen rapidly, they didn't lead to carbon dioxide being
dissolved by the ocean, causing temporary acidification. (So we can
expect all that carbon dioxide now
dissolved in the ocean to soon enough come out again...)

John Savard


Since global temperatures are rising, it must already be happening. It
is estimated that 7 ppm/year of CO2 is going into the atmosphere due to
human activities, but the CO2 content of the atmosphere is only increasing
by 2.2 ppm/year. Thus at least 4.8 ppm/year (plus whatever is coming out
of the oceans) is being sequestered somewhere. Biomass (Vegetation, soils,
detritus), presumably.
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Old June 22nd 18, 07:13 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Chris.B[_3_]
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On Thursday, 21 June 2018 12:55:43 UTC+2, Gary Harnagel wrote:
On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 1:32:21 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
...to see the possible effects of higher carbon dioxide levels.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...ing-something/

It's possible to observe what similar carbon dioxide levels had in the past.

As the article notes, the situation is different. The increased carbon
dioxide levels had time to have their full ultimate effects - and because
they didn't happen rapidly, they didn't lead to carbon dioxide being
dissolved by the ocean, causing temporary acidification. (So we can
expect all that carbon dioxide now
dissolved in the ocean to soon enough come out again...)

John Savard


Since global temperatures are rising, it must already be happening. It
is estimated that 7 ppm/year of CO2 is going into the atmosphere due to
human activities, but the CO2 content of the atmosphere is only increasing
by 2.2 ppm/year. Thus at least 4.8 ppm/year (plus whatever is coming out
of the oceans) is being sequestered somewhere. Biomass (Vegetation, soils,
detritus), presumably.


They say that meat production is a major cause of AGW whether directly or indirectly. Perhaps we should all start eating ostriches? It's not as if there is any shortage of them. Soylent Green, anybody?
 




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