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A game for oriel36 et al to play
On Dec 2, 9:37*am, oriel36 wrote:
You want your extra 366 1/4 rotation,not by observation... Wrong, it absolutely via observation, which is why your argument is, well, the actual error. To you, astronomy is a matter of faith, which happens to work the same as how your religious belief works. This means that you can choose not to believe any experimental evidence, which you do several times every day. Therefore, to you any 'empirical evidence', observations and experimental results, are deemed to be irrelevant. \Paul A |
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A game for oriel36 et al to play
On Dec 2, 9:21*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 12/2/10 3:02 PM, oriel36 wrote: Do you understand what the calendar convenience does by grouping the arithmetical sequence of 1461 days and rotations in a format of 365 and 366 days/rotations ,this is seen *in any footage of the Earth from space,in this case,the 28/29 May 2009 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxrIMHKobk0 You want your star to return 3 minutes 56 seconds earlier each and ever night as days and dates within the calendar system and it answers itself but ,like many phony doctorates here ,you can't get to grips with the fact that the arithmetical progression of steady 24 hour days and steady rotation of the Earth is independent of its orbital motion so that a Feb 29th day/night cycle and 24 hour rotation shows the return of a star to tag along within the calendar system.There are no 366 1/4 rotations in 365 1/4 days unless you want to completely drive yourself insane and dispute what the Feb 29th day/night does not mesh with 24 hours of rotation and does not reflect 365 1/4 days and rotation in an orbital circuit. The thoughts of people like you influencing students is repulsive and I never thought I would think that,you want your 366 1/4 days but cannot apply it to cause and effect as we experience day and night through the rotation of the Earth.Maybe it is not fraud,incompetence,corruption or some other acceptable excuse for what you and your colleagues do or don'd do,but in the 21st century having to battle for the cause and effect of day/night and find nothing but hostility is a living nightmare. Bad,bad people who * *But what about the laser gyro? The gyro measures 366.24+ earth * *rotations per astronomical year no matter what your reasoning! * *How do you deal with that, Gerald? You are not arguing for 366 1/4 rotations in a year,you are arguing against the cause and effect of the day/night cycle which happens to be daily rotation and that is remarkable for all the wrong reasons as it means that the links between science and intelligence becomes fiction. You won't touch the Feb 29th day/night cycle and 24 hour rotation as you already stated it is not part of what you teach and as you have not retracted your clear statement on the matter,I accept that you speak for all the other doctorates here - Gerald, you are taking about day night cycles. I am writing about earth rotations. Do you not have the foggiest notion that they are technically (thus astronomically) different? It is satisfying to see the orbital daylight/darkness cycle now enter the world as an accepted fact and the orbital cause behind it,it originated in this forum as a means to explain the observation that natural noon cycles vary as a combined effect of daily and orbital motions as independent of each other,the fact that readers now throw it back at me as an assertion is strange as they are only travelling a track I laid down.That the merit system is dysfunctional to a degree where this can happen hardly matters given the sheer disrespect shown to the great astronomers and their insights but regardless,the insight stands and that is all that matters. |
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A game for oriel36 et al to play
On 12/2/10 3:50 PM, oriel36 wrote:
You are not arguing for 366 1/4 rotations in a year,you are arguing against the cause and effect of the day/night cycle which happens to be daily rotation and that is remarkable for all the wrong reasons as it means that the links between science and intelligence becomes fiction. But what about the laser gyro? The gyro measures 366.24+ earth rotations per astronomical year no matter what your reasoning! How do you deal with that, Gerald? |
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A game for oriel36 et al to play
On Dec 2, 9:56*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 12/2/10 3:50 PM, oriel36 wrote: You are not arguing for 366 1/4 rotations in a year,you are arguing against the cause and effect of the day/night cycle which happens to be daily rotation and that is remarkable for all the wrong reasons as it means that the links between science and intelligence becomes fiction. * *But what about the laser gyro? The gyro measures 366.24+ earth * *rotations per astronomical year no matter what your reasoning! * *How do you deal with that, Gerald? 365 1/4 rotations in 365 1/4 days with Feb 29th rotation corresponding to a 24 hour day/night cycle,I could also state the temperature rises and falls as a reaction to the Earth entering and exiting the circle of illumination and that happens 1461 times between Mar 1st 2008 and Feb 29th 2012 hence the correspondence between 365 1/4 days and rotations and 1 year. Go ahead and live your life out in ignominy,that I had offered a way out for Ra/Dec observing as a calendar convenience demonstrates that none of you deserve the title of men much less the title of astronomers.Your open statement here without objection is noteworthy by all accounts and for that I thank you,it devalues an astronomical doctorate to nothing but you already know that - Gerald, you are taking about day night cycles. I am writing about earth rotations. Do you not have the foggiest notion that they are technically (thus astronomically) different? And there I leave it. |
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A game for oriel36 et al to play
On Dec 2, 2:05*pm, oriel36 wrote:
And there I leave it. Promises, promises... |
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A game for palsing et al to play
Oh, the exquisite irony! Two feckwits in one thread. Both claiming to
be Napoleon! You'll just have to fight it out over who wears the funny hat on Feb 39th on leap years. |
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A game for palsing et al to play
On Dec 2, 11:30*pm, "Androcles"
wrote: Your definition of simultaneity is a special relativity case where c = infinity, not anything remotely connected with Nature. No, it is not, bird-brain. Einstein states in his definition that if the TIME for light to travel from one clock to the other is equal in both directions, the the locks are synchronous. Clearly he didn't believe that c = infinity. Somehow, I knew you were going to be a poor loser, a would attempt to put a feeble spin on your defeat. I'm going to treat this conversation exactly like my dog would, just **** on it and walk away... |
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A game for oriel36 et al to play
On Saturday, November 27, 2010 at 12:15:42 PM UTC, oriel36 wrote:
On Nov 27, 11:37*am, badastrobuster wrote: On Nov 27, 10:58*am, oriel36 wrote: NOW FAILED SIX TIMES - I WILL TRY AGAIN You are not failing,you are succeeding and making everyone else succeed with you so keep trying,you have another 1455 times to go to show you can count the arithmetical string of rotations and days which make up the calendar system stretching from Mar 1st 2008 until Feb 29th 2012 or 365 1/4 rotations/days per orbital cycle. It is no big deal that this guy here sets up a game for me and everyone else, doesn't have to play himself and still loses so like many just fade into irrelevance notwithstanding that they had little to bring to the forum anyway. I thought it was funny and a bit of an indulgence on my part but that's just me and no further comment is necessary now or in future. I have seen it once where a sea eagle was mobbed by a crow where the eagle just circled higher and higher until the crow couldn't follow and then plunged spectacularly so this guy is useful as a cautionary tale. Then again such are the joys of the unmoderated Usenet and I have nothing to say against this practice. |
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