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How are space probes labeled?
As a collective whole, the human race has been sending probes into space for
several decades now. We've got landers on the moon, Venus, Mars, and even Titan. We've got hardware orbiting the sun, Venus, Mars, etc. And of course stuff headed for interstellar space. My question is this: Are these probes labeled in any way, so that anyone finding them in the future will be able to read a label that says, "Surveyor 7," or "Mars 2," or "Mariner 10" or "Voyager 1"? How about Apollo hardware that is still in lunar or solar orbit? How difficult would it be to identify a particular item? |
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How are space probes labeled?
Some of the spacecraft have formal plaques installed, such as Pioneers
10 and 11. Later spacecraft, such as Galileo, had beta cloth logos stiched into the insulation. There is a full-fidelity Cassini spacecraft mockup at the California Science Museum's Aerospace annex, and it has a unique logo placed on it that houses the CD rom inside. It is a circle with a triangle and a fountain pen made from kapton and beta cloth. I did a study a couple of years ago as I was trying to figure out a way to put the ISSAT logo on the ISSAT telescope. I found that oridinary paints, pigments and inks will not work in the harsh environment of space as the inks slowly sublimate in the vaccum. Colors get ruined by the UV radiation, too. So it is difficult to get any markings on the spacecraft that will last, besides, who is around to see them? Matthew Ota |
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Matt J. McCullar wrote: As a collective whole, the human race has been sending probes into space for several decades now. We've got landers on the moon, Venus, Mars, and even Titan. We've got hardware orbiting the sun, Venus, Mars, etc. And of course stuff headed for interstellar space. My question is this: Are these probes labeled in any way, so that anyone finding them in the future will be able to read a label that says, "Surveyor 7," or "Mars 2," or "Mariner 10" or "Voyager 1"? How about Apollo hardware that is still in lunar or solar orbit? How difficult would it be to identify a particular item? Many probes carried pennants, signs, medallions, etc. Here are some items placed on early Soviet lunar and planetary probes: http://www.mentallandscape.com/V_Pennants.htm The NASA Pioneer plaques: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_plaque http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclo...eerplaque.html The Voyager golden record: http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/goldenrec.html http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/voy...er-record.html NASA Mars Spirit probe plaque: http://www.planetary.org/mars/images...ue_330x404.jpg Plaque carried on Apollo-Soyuz: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/...P/10076505.jpg Of course the Apollo lunar module descent stages from Apollo 11 through 17 had a plaque listing the astronauts names and in some cases, the Apollo mission, and/or the President's name. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ue-replica.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:A12-plaque.jp Apollo 13 replacement plaque with John Swigert's name added: http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...a13.plaque.jpg http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/Apol...4_PlaqueFS.gif http://www.lpi.usra.edu/expmoon/Apol...5_PlaqueFS.gif http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/Hi...6-72-H-425.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:A17-plaque.gif -Rusty |
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In article .com,
Matthew Ota wrote: I did a study a couple of years ago as I was trying to figure out a way to put the ISSAT logo on the ISSAT telescope. I found that oridinary paints, pigments and inks will not work in the harsh environment of space as the inks slowly sublimate in the vaccum. Colors get ruined by the UV radiation, too. I was told -- by one of the people involved -- that the "Canada" and flag on the first Canadarm were added at the last minute, using ordinary hardware-store paint (although I suspect they did at least a quick outgassing test first), after a badly delayed high-level decision finally got made. And yes, NASA privately had conniptions over it. And the markings did slowly fade as time went on and they racked up more in-space time. For the later arms, and presumably for refurbishment on the first, the job was done properly with more durable materials. Sometimes it doesn't even take UV to make things fade. The ESA logo on Huygens, bright and conspicuous in ESA photos taken just before the probe shipped to the US, had somehow faded almost to invisibility in NASA photos of the Cassini-Huygens assembly taken only a week or two later. -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | |
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In article ,
Matt J. McCullar wrote: My question is this: Are these probes labeled in any way, so that anyone finding them in the future will be able to read a label that says, "Surveyor 7," or "Mars 2," or "Mariner 10" or "Voyager 1"? How about Apollo hardware that is still in lunar or solar orbit? How difficult would it be to identify a particular item? As others have noted, although some probes carry plaques and such, there's no systematic, uniform labeling convention. In cases where there's more than one candidate, confusion would easily be possible. Only a couple of decades after the stuff was put out to rust, it took significant detective work to establish just which remaining Saturn V stages *on Earth* were which -- not only was there no definitive labeling, but the records weren't well kept either. -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | |
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How are space probes labeled?
I know that the serial and part numbers on the space shuttle's tiles
are made with muffler paint. But now I wonder what the Canadians used for thier Canadarms as their more durable and permanent materials. I never was able to find out what was the best kind of paint or pigments to use for space applications. I even went as far as reseraching the LDEF data sets, but I found nothing there. Matthew Ota |
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How are space probes labeled?
Were the apollo bolier plate capsules serial numbered? Theres a REAL
boilerplate near me, it would be nice to identify which one it is.... I wonder how many probes were signed or had other stuff added by the builders? Hey I will etch my name or something on this part which is going out of the solar system |
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In message . com, Rusty
writes wrote: Were the apollo bolier plate capsules serial numbered? Theres a REAL boilerplate near me, it would be nice to identify which one it is.... I wonder how many probes were signed or had other stuff added by the builders? Hey I will etch my name or something on this part which is going out of the solar system Remember the dollar bill found in Liberty Bell 7? At least one was found autographed, and wrapped around wiring bundles in the recovered spacecraft. Not the wiring for the explosive bolts on the hatch, I hope :-) |
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