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NEW FMC Knight OWL labeled Wide-Angles
Hi,
Just saw these they are new and improved 66° model offered in 20mm, 15mm, 9mm and 6mm from (seller owl1) on eBay. Example link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9954 890&rd=1 Also assumingly available directly from Knight Owl, too. Tom Roginski emailed me some extra details. Forwarding them by permission for you folks (see below). I have no affiliation with this seller. I bet Jon Isaac will be particularly excited he likes this well reputed series in short FL. I liked the MC version of the 15mm myself it was great. Now they are FMC coated and slightly improved (?) too! I'm told these are not a GSO product, there are some of those yet to be introduced in approx. 10mm and 5mm FL Wide-Angle late this year or early next. ---------------------------------- From Tom R. on the new OWL WA's: "These are supposed to be and appear to be fully multi-coated. I also am told that this is a slightly modified version of the previous series sold by others. This is a product that we have never carried before, and it has the Knight OWL brand on it - our first branded eyepiece. This series have members from 20 mm to 6 mm. The previous shortest super-wide eyepiece that we carried was 8 mm and that had only a 60 degree field - these are 66 degree. The shorter focal lengths of these have been especially interesting to a number of people. These have the negative element as the bottom lens in the system. This is essentially a dedicated barlow designed just for this optical system. These are new product - not used and we supply a good bolt-type case with them. TOM (OWL1)" ---------------------------------- Clear skies, Pete |
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I bet Jon Isaac will be particularly excited he likes this well
reputed series in short FL. I like the 9mm but the 6mm has ghosts that seem to come from the sleeve between the elements in the front section. I wonder if this has been taken care. According to the website these eyepieces have blackened edges. Here's one for you Pete and anyone else interested. I bought a 42mm GSO SuperView with a supposed 66 degree AFOV. When I took the barrel off and measured the clear aperture of the field lens it is only 41mm. This is the diameter of the field lens retaining ring which is probably 2-3mm thick. Using the basic geometry that TV uses, this would result in AFOV of 56 degrees. Using my tape measure against the fence with my Pronto (2 inch Everbright diagonal), I get a TFOV of 4.9 degrees which again corresponds to an AFOV of 56 degrees. So then while using the eyepiece in my 1250mm Focal length 10 inch Newtonian I noticed that I could not quite see both Nu Lyrae and Gamma Lyrae (Sulafat) in the same field of view. I tried this several times and positioned my eye for the maximum view in each direction. These stars are separated by 1 degree 55 minutes. Doing the basic math, this means that AFOV of the eyepiece would have to be less than 57 degrees which corresponds nicely with my other measurements. When I look at other eyepieces like a TV 32mm Widefield, they have a field stop but the clear aperture behind the field stop is larger than the field stop. Is the AFOV of this eyepiece such that it really does give TFOVs that are associated with a 41mm field stop such as it seems or is there something else going on here... jon |
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Pete Rasmussen wrote in message . ..
Hi, Just saw these they are new and improved 66° model offered in 20mm, 15mm, 9mm and 6mm from (seller owl1) on eBay. Example link: Hey Pete - thanks for the heads up on those. They claim to have improved coatings over the Synta widescan and Orion expanse, eh? Did ja order any? Enquiring minds want to know.... T |
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Jon Isaacs wrote:
Is the AFOV of this eyepiece such that it really does give TFOVs that are associated with a 41mm field stop such as it seems or is there something else going on here... I noticed that in all cases, you are measuring the true FOV directly, and then making a conversion of some sort to the AFOV. All of these conversions neglect the possibility of distortion, although I must confess it would take an extraordinary amount of pincushion distortion to expand an apparent field that would be 56 degrees if orthoscopic by a whopping 10 degrees. More likely, some combination of distortion plus exaggeration is responsible. Brian Tung The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/ Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/ The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/ My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.txt |
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I noticed that in all cases, you are measuring the true FOV directly, and
then making a conversion of some sort to the AFOV. All of these conversions neglect the possibility of distortion, although I must confess it would take an extraordinary amount of pincushion distortion to expand an apparent field that would be 56 degrees if orthoscopic by a whopping 10 degrees. More likely, some combination of distortion plus exaggeration is responsible. So exactly how does one interpret the idea of having 65 degree FOV due to distortion? Does this mean that the magnification is not constant across the field of view? jon |
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I think you could call it exaggeration, wishful thinking, a typo or false advertising - take your pick. The field stop is the determining factor. Clear skies, Shneor Sherman That was my "simple minded" thinking but still looking for magic.... jon |
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