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Old March 16th 15, 01:08 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Readers should not feed the Gerald Kelleher troll. You will be wasting your own time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to continue even longer in his self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he suffers, is almost entirely unable to accept anything that differs from his own bizarre view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not possible nor is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that many regulars remain totally unconvinced that Gerald really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of his favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his menu and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised that on that particular issue he was 100% wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats minor variations of the same nonsense is just one symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop himself from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard to find any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions.
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Old March 16th 15, 01:41 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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wrote:
Readers should not feed the Gerald Kelleher troll. You will be wasting
your own time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to
continue even longer in his self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he
suffers, is almost entirely unable to accept anything that differs from
his own bizarre view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not
possible nor is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that many regulars remain totally unconvinced that
Gerald really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of
his favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his
menu and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised
that on that particular issue he was 100% wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats minor variations of the same nonsense is
just one symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop
himself from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard
to find any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions.


This is your third posting of the same text in one thread. Have you ever
been diagnosed with OCD?
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Old March 16th 15, 02:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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No offence to the middle aged, middle class thugs and their dour sensibilities but the Equinox presents various challenges for the observer as clearly the position of sunrise at a location at the Equator is at its maximum declination on the Equinox as the apparent trajectory of the Sun from horizon to horizon from March to September is entirely opposite.

Only at the Solstices is the position sunrise and sunset symmetrical on the horizon at the equator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_p...precession.svg


If NASA wishes to place a camera on the near side moon and take images of the Earth similar to the following image then a huge purpose will be served -

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/...mericas250.jpg


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Old March 16th 15, 06:23 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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oriel36 wrote:
No offence to the middle aged, middle class thugs and their dour
sensibilities but the Equinox presents various challenges for the
observer as clearly the position of sunrise at a location at the Equator
is at its maximum declination on the Equinox as the apparent trajectory
of the Sun from horizon to horizon from March to September is entirely opposite.

Only at the Solstices is the position sunrise and sunset symmetrical on
the horizon at the equator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_p...precession.svg


If NASA wishes to place a camera on the near side moon and take images of
the Earth similar to the following image then a huge purpose will be served -

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/...mericas250.jpg


You really have no ability to visualise. The Equinox is almost at full Moon
so the view from the Moon will be of a full Earth. The terminator will not
be visible except as a small darkening at one edge.
To everybody else who thinks for a moment this is obvious. You get so many
things wrong because of your inability to visualise but it's not too late
to get expert help.
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Old March 16th 15, 06:24 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
No offence to the middle aged, middle class thugs and their dour
sensibilities but the Equinox presents various challenges for the
observer as clearly the position of sunrise at a location at the Equator
is at its maximum declination on the Equinox as the apparent trajectory
of the Sun from horizon to horizon from March to September is entirely opposite.

Only at the Solstices is the position sunrise and sunset symmetrical on
the horizon at the equator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_p...precession.svg


If NASA wishes to place a camera on the near side moon and take images of
the Earth similar to the following image then a huge purpose will be served -

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/...mericas250.jpg


You really have no ability to visualise. The Equinox is almost at full Moon
so the view from the Moon will be of a full Earth. The terminator will not
be visible except as a small darkening at one edge.
To everybody else who thinks for a moment this is obvious. You get so many
things wrong because of your inability to visualise but it's not too late
to get expert help.


Sorry that should say new moon.
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Old March 16th 15, 06:45 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 6:24:44 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
No offence to the middle aged, middle class thugs and their dour
sensibilities but the Equinox presents various challenges for the
observer as clearly the position of sunrise at a location at the Equator
is at its maximum declination on the Equinox as the apparent trajectory
of the Sun from horizon to horizon from March to September is entirely opposite.

Only at the Solstices is the position sunrise and sunset symmetrical on
the horizon at the equator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_p...precession.svg


If NASA wishes to place a camera on the near side moon and take images of
the Earth similar to the following image then a huge purpose will be served -

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/...mericas250.jpg


You really have no ability to visualise. The Equinox is almost at full Moon
so the view from the Moon will be of a full Earth. The terminator will not
be visible except as a small darkening at one edge.


The imaging taken from the moon will show the traverse change in position of the North/South poles as they are carried around in a circle with each pass of the moon across the Sun/Earth line. The change in position with each sweep will look exactly like this -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...precession.svg




To everybody else who thinks for a moment this is obvious. You get so many
things wrong because of your inability to visualise but it's not too late
to get expert help.


The utter drudgery which is a consequence of having no spirit and no imaging.

We see Uranus and its circle of illumination in much the same way as the Earth will appear from the moon when it is between the Earth and the Sun -

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg

The Equinox is a spectacular astronomical event which is obscured by celestial sphere stargazers and their nonsensical description of the Sun crossing the Earth rotational Equator . The true description relies on dual surface rotations to the central Sun corresponding to the two rotations behind the daily daylight/darkness cycle and the polar daylight/darkness cycle.

Passing through creation and not picking up on the great things in front of you must be the most horrible condition imaginable and especially now when anyone can appreciate the explanation using imaging and all the advantages of the 21st century.









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Old March 16th 15, 06:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 6:25:34 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
No offence to the middle aged, middle class thugs and their dour
sensibilities but the Equinox presents various challenges for the
observer as clearly the position of sunrise at a location at the Equator
is at its maximum declination on the Equinox as the apparent trajectory
of the Sun from horizon to horizon from March to September is entirely opposite.

Only at the Solstices is the position sunrise and sunset symmetrical on
the horizon at the equator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_p...precession.svg


If NASA wishes to place a camera on the near side moon and take images of
the Earth similar to the following image then a huge purpose will be served -

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/...mericas250.jpg


You really have no ability to visualise. The Equinox is almost at full Moon
so the view from the Moon will be of a full Earth. The terminator will not
be visible except as a small darkening at one edge.
To everybody else who thinks for a moment this is obvious. You get so many
things wrong because of your inability to visualise but it's not too late
to get expert help.


Sorry that should say new moon.


At least you thought about it whereas the space agencies have not.

The moon passing the Sun/Earth line will show the fully illuminated face of the planet but with each pass it will register the change in position of the North/South poles within that fully illuminated face.

Welcome to 21st century astronomy !.

  #28  
Old March 19th 15, 05:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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There has to be some twinge of shame when readers here encounter the explanation for the Equinox found in the most referenced website out there -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox

In the few remaining hours before the Equinox as the Earth travels though space and around the Sun, the entire planet will turn just far enough that the North and South poles will exist at extreme ends of the fully illuminated face.

The polar points always turn parallel to the orbital plane as a separate rotation and it is time I saw people at least try to grasp the concept with or without daily rotation. The broom handle analogy is certainly the best way to appreciate this surface rotation to the central Sun where the line of a person's body represents the upright circle of illumination.

It is simply not good enough that present company either 'tilts' the Earth or 'tilts' the circle of illumination instead of assigning a second surface rotation to the central Sun -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...easonearth.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox...equinox_EN.png


Astronomy was always the pride of human intellectual endeavors and it can be again but not with this mockery that takes its name at present.

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Old March 19th 15, 06:46 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Readers should not feed the Gerald Kelleher troll. You will be wasting your own time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to continue in his self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he suffers, is entirely unable to accept anything that differs from his own bizarre view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not possible nor is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that most regulars remain totally unconvinced that Gerald really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of his favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his menu and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised that on that particular issue he was 100% wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats variations of the same nonsense is just one symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop himself from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard to find any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions.
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Old March 19th 15, 07:35 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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wrote:
Readers should not feed the Gerald Kelleher troll. You will be wasting
your own time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to
continue in his self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he
suffers, is entirely unable to accept anything that differs from his own
bizarre view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not possible nor
is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that most regulars remain totally unconvinced that
Gerald really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of
his favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his
menu and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised
that on that particular issue he was 100% wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats variations of the same nonsense is just one
symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop himself
from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard to find
any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions.


This is getting beyond a joke.
Your stupid posts are extending all of Oriel's threads. If it weren't for
your boring rubbish this thread would only have posts by Oriel himself and
would be a laughing stock just like the Brad Guth posts of the past with
hundreds of replies to himself.
Your post are boring, repetitive and make the problem you are attempting to
deal with worse. And you're even worse that him for answering questions.
Have you been assessed for OCD?
You should be!
 




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