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Old March 17th 15, 03:41 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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What a wonderful opportunity to put the moon's circle of illumination in context of its position directly between the Earth and the Sun in its monthly trek. With each pass of that lunar orbital point over the coming months, the South polar region will disappear from view while the North polar region comes into view more fully as the Earth moves through space and turns to the central Sun as it does so.

http://www.hko.gov.hk/gts/graphics/a...hoto201012.jpg


You can all have the usefulness of the predictive facility which determines the eclipse times within the calendar framework while missing out on the relevance of the eclipse in introducing the Earth's orbital surface rotation and easily observed from the surface of the moon if they ever get around to it.

This is a St Patrick's day gift, after all, it is a Spring festival disguised as a national festival.


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Old March 17th 15, 05:30 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Readers should not feed the Kelleher troll. You will be wasting your own time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to continue even longer in his self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he suffers, is entirely unable to accept anything that differs from his own bizarre view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not possible nor is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that regulars remain totally unconvinced that Gerald really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of his favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his menu and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised that on that particular issue he was 100% wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats minor variations of the same nonsense is just a symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop himself from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard to find any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions.
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Old March 17th 15, 06:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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wrote:
Readers should not feed the Kelleher troll. You will be wasting your own
time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to continue
even longer in his self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he
suffers, is entirely unable to accept anything that differs from his own
bizarre view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not possible nor
is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that regulars remain totally unconvinced that Gerald
really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of his
favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his menu
and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised that on
that particular issue he was 100% wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats minor variations of the same nonsense is
just a symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop
himself from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard
to find any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions.


You haven't answered my question yet.H ave you had any medical advice about
the obsessive compulsive behaviour which is evident from your repeated
posts?
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Old March 17th 15, 08:58 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 6:18:07 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
wrote:
Readers should not feed the Kelleher troll. You will be wasting your own
time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to continue
even longer in his self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he
suffers, is entirely unable to accept anything that differs from his own
bizarre view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not possible nor
is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that regulars remain totally unconvinced that Gerald
really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of his
favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his menu
and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised that on
that particular issue he was 100% wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats minor variations of the same nonsense is
just a symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop
himself from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard
to find any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions.


You haven't answered my question yet.H ave you had any medical advice about
the obsessive compulsive behaviour which is evident from your repeated
posts?


This is an unmoderated Usenet forum with all the advantages and disadvantages as a conduit for discussing material that most don't even consider. The solar eclipse on Friday will see the North/South poles at the extreme ends of the fully illuminated face seen from the moon with one pole disappearing from view with the next sweep on April 18th -

http://www.moongiant.com/Full_Moon_N...n_Calendar.php


The moon's orbit doesn't affect the relationship between the polar surface points of the Earth and the circle of illumination so that the poles will be seen to move in a circle parallel with the ecliptic plane of the Earth -

http://facweb.bhc.edu/academics/scie...LunarOrbit.jpg


It is not possible to inspire people with information, it is only possible for information to light up with some meaning that is missed or ignored. I see these people try to mock inspiration that binds man to God or the individual to the Universal in physical terms but these people are not evil but rather mediocre or intellectually vapid.



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Old March 17th 15, 09:34 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 18:17:17 +0000 (UTC), Mike Collins wrote:

wrote:
Readers should not feed the Kelleher troll. You will be wasting your own
time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to continue
even longer in his self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he
suffers, is entirely unable to accept anything that differs from his own
bizarre view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not possible nor
is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that regulars remain totally unconvinced that Gerald
really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of his
favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his menu
and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised that on
that particular issue he was 100% wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats minor variations of the same nonsense is
just a symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop
himself from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard
to find any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions.


You haven't answered my question yet.H ave you had any medical advice about
the obsessive compulsive behaviour which is evident from your repeated
posts?


U.S. Stats (not UK):

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/stati...g-adults.shtml


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just one ailing puppy here on S.A.A.
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Old March 17th 15, 09:47 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Oh great !, any other noisebox care to come into a thread discussing what the Earth looks like with each sweep of the moon when it passes between the Earth and the Sun.

Granted it is an unmoderated forum populated with disaffected schoolboys but ultimately it serves a more noble purpose beyond the self-serving concerns of academics.

Have a ball with all the other comments, I wouldn't expect any different.
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Old March 19th 15, 09:55 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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The motion of the moon around the Earth with the central Sun as a backdrop should,by right, draw attention to the surface rotation of the Earth which will put the North/South poles at extreme ends of the fully illuminated face tomorrow.

The resistance to the surface rotation arising from the orbital motion of the Earth is truly disconcerting as there should be no doubt if they put a camera on the near face of the moon looking back at the Earth they will see the position of the poles change in respect to the fully illuminated face just as we see the same thing when looking at Uranus from Earth -

http://www.newscientist.com/data/ima...2529-1_800.jpg


There is so much nonsense in this forum presently about God and astronomy but the truth is that astronomy was always a spirited adventure which connects the individual to the Universal in a physical way.



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Old March 19th 15, 12:19 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Readers should not feed the Kelleher troll. You will be wasting your own time and, more importantly, you will be encouraging Gerald to continue even longer in his strange self-harming activities.

Gerald, because of the severe and life-long condition from which he suffers, is entirely unable to accept anything that differs from his own unusual view of the world. Changing his mind is simply not possible nor is getting him to respond to questions.

Equally important is that regulars remain totally unconvinced that Gerald really believes some of the crud he keeps chanting out. Some of his favourite topics from the past have been quietly dropped from his menu and this probably reflects the fact that he has finally realised that on that particular issue he was totally wrong?

The way he endlessly repeats slight variations of the same nonsense is just a symptom of his serious illness. He quite literally cannot stop himself from posting - it has pretty much become his "life". It is hard to find any evidence that he has an existence outside his handful of trivial obsessions..
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Old March 20th 15, 09:53 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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What an amazing experience that eclipse was as my surroundings went silver and although cloudy it helped define the position of the moon as it moves across my view . Truly lovely !.

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Old March 21st 15, 09:44 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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The path of the eclipse yesterday was determined by the relationship of the Northern polar position to the circle of illumination and the moon's position in respect to the Earth's orbital plane -

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ol/lunecl1.gif

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEplot/...2015Mar20T.GIF

A solar eclipse close to the Solstice will show a much lower and stretched out path such as the upcoming American solar eclipse in a few years -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...2017Aug21T.png


As the Earth moves through space it also turns to the central Sun slowly and unevenly as a consequence of that orbital motion. It is bound up in everything from the seasons to the variations in the natural noon cycle to the path of a solar eclipse. No point in being stuck with a tilting Earth or a tilting circle of illumination so I would like people to just get on with the exciting prospect of using two surface rotations to account for phenomena and leave the less productive older perspectives behind.
 




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