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What if HSF ended in 1975?
Here is a scary thought:
What if the Shuttle was canceled and the last HSF was Apollo-Soyuz? With out HSF would NASA still be here today? (If NASA still existed w/o HSF, I would imagine that its budget would be 1/3 of what it is today) Thru the '80s how much impact did American HSF program have on Soviet/Russian HSF, (with out the shuttle to ship additional supplies, how long would MIR have lasted) would they have continued on with their program or would it have slowed down or stopped when the Soviet Union fell or would it have ended before that? Would the Chinese be actively developing a HSF capablity if America and/or Soviet/Russia abandon it? Comments? Space Cadet derwetzelsDASHmailATyahooDOTcom Moon Society - St. Louis Chapter http://www.moonsociety.org/chapters/stlouis/ The Moon Society is a non-profit educational and scientific foundation formed to further scientific study and development of the moon. |
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What if HSF ended in 1975?
"Jorge R. Frank" wrote:
It's possible that the science, aeronautics, and technology parts of NASA would still be around, but it's also possible they wouldn't exist under the name "NASA" any more. Aeronautics and technology could have been spun off into a revived NACA, Earth science to NOAA, and space science to NSF. Arguably doing that today would be a Good Thing. D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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What if HSF ended in 1975?
Derek Lyons wrote:
"Jorge R. Frank" wrote: It's possible that the science, aeronautics, and technology parts of NASA would still be around, but it's also possible they wouldn't exist under the name "NASA" any more. Aeronautics and technology could have been spun off into a revived NACA, Earth science to NOAA, and space science to NSF. Arguably doing that today would be a Good Thing. D. Of course, the core underlying premise here is that this is a question about US HSF. The USSR maintained a manned program through the whole time in question. Now, would the USSR have halted HSF? |
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Charles Buckley wrote in
: Derek Lyons wrote: "Jorge R. Frank" wrote: It's possible that the science, aeronautics, and technology parts of NASA would still be around, but it's also possible they wouldn't exist under the name "NASA" any more. Aeronautics and technology could have been spun off into a revived NACA, Earth science to NOAA, and space science to NSF. Arguably doing that today would be a Good Thing. Of course, the core underlying premise here is that this is a question about US HSF. The USSR maintained a manned program through the whole time in question. Now, would the USSR have halted HSF? I think they would have continued until they ran out of money. -- JRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. |
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What if HSF ended in 1975?
"Jorge R. Frank" wrote:
(Derek Lyons) wrote: "Jorge R. Frank" wrote: It's possible that the science, aeronautics, and technology parts of NASA would still be around, but it's also possible they wouldn't exist under the name "NASA" any more. Aeronautics and technology could have been spun off into a revived NACA, Earth science to NOAA, and space science to NSF. Arguably doing that today would be a Good Thing. I could agree with aeronautics-NACA and Earth science-NOAA. But robotic probes are justified by both science and exploration objectives, so as long as NASA has an HSF function, space science would probably be better off staying with NASA. Why? NSF already does the combined science/exploration thing quite nicely in the Antarctic and out on the ocean. What makes space different? D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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"Jorge R. Frank" wrote:
NSF wouldn't be doing the human exploration missions that come with the HSF function. By keeping the robotic precursors in the same agency as the human missions that follow, it's easier to keep the goals in sync. They aren't in sync *now*. Nor do I suspect that manned missions to comets, or locations other than Luna/Mars are on the plate for decades. D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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What if HSF ended in 1975?
"Jorge R. Frank" wrote:
Charles Buckley wrote in : Derek Lyons wrote: "Jorge R. Frank" wrote: It's possible that the science, aeronautics, and technology parts of NASA would still be around, but it's also possible they wouldn't exist under the name "NASA" any more. Aeronautics and technology could have been spun off into a revived NACA, Earth science to NOAA, and space science to NSF. Arguably doing that today would be a Good Thing. Of course, the core underlying premise here is that this is a question about US HSF. The USSR maintained a manned program through the whole time in question. Now, would the USSR have halted HSF? I think they would have continued until they ran out of money. If nothing else, there would've been no Buran. Maybe some smaller, expendable-launched reusable craft that would've seen more service.... -- You know what to remove, to reply.... |
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