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Aether has mass
On Mar 7, 7:09*pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane
wrote: "spacetime" is a sorry rattle-trap of a bad anaolgy, The Milky Way's halo is what is referred to curved spacetime. The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether. The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime physically exists as the state of displacement of the aether. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. |
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On Mar 7, 3:45*pm, mpc755 wrote:
Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves through and displaces the aether. Galaxy clusters move through and displace the aether. A 'new dark force' is more speculative than understanding space itself has mass. 'Galactic Pile-Up May Point to Mysterious New Dark Force in the Universe'http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/01/musket-ball-dark-force/ "The reason this is strange is that dark matter is thought to barely interact with itself. The dark matter should just coast through itself and move at the same speed as the hardly interacting galaxies. Instead, it looks like the dark matter is crashing into something perhaps itself and slowing down faster than the galaxies are. But this would require the dark matter to be able to interact with itself in a completely new an unexpected way, a dark force that affects only dark matter." It's not a new force. It's the aether displaced by each of the galaxy clusters interacting analogous to the bow waves of two boats which pass by each other. 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the aether. 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... "Astronomers using NASA's Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark mater, which is somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water." The 'pond' consists of aether. The analogy are two boats which pass by each other very closely. Their bow waves slosh back and forth and create a ripple in the water. The Milky Way's halo is what is referred to as the curvature of spacetime. The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether. The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the aether. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. 'NASA's Voyager Hits New Region at Solar System Edge'http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/dec/HQ_11-402_AGU_Voyager.html "Voyager is showing that what is outside is pushing back. ... Like cars piling up at a clogged freeway off-ramp, the increased intensity of the magnetic field shows that inward pressure from interstellar space is compacting it." It is not the particles of matter which exist in quantities less than in any vacuum artifically created on Earth which are pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar system. It is the aether, which the particles of matter exist in, which is the interstellar medium. It is the aether which is displaced by the matter the solar system consists of which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the solar system. 'Offset between dark matter and ordinary matter: evidence from a sample of 38 lensing clusters of galaxies'http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1004/1004.1475v1.pdf "Our data strongly support the idea that the gravitational potential in clusters is mainly due to a non-baryonic fluid, and any exotic field in gravitational theory must resemble that of CDM fields very closely." The offset is due to the galaxy clusters moving through the aether. The analogy is a submarine moving through the water. You are under water. Two miles away from you are many lights. Moving between you and the lights one mile away is a submarine. The submarine displaces the water. The state of displacement of the water causes the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water to be offset from the center of the submarine itself. The offset between the center of the lensing of the light propagating through the water displaced by the submarine and the center of the submarine itself is going to remain the same as the submarine moves through the water. The submarine continually displaces different regions of the water. The state of the water connected to and neighboring the submarine remains the same as the submarine moves through the water even though it is not the same water the submarine continually displaces. This is what is occurring physically in nature as the galaxy clusters move through and displace the aether. 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE'http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles. any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous energetic contact with a hidden medium The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The energetic contact is the state of displacement of the aether. "For me, the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity." A particle is a moving singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit turns the associated aether wave into chop. The aether waves exiting the slits interact with the detectors and become many short waves with irregular motion. The waves are disorganized. There is no wave interference. The particle pitches and rolls through the chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and it no longer creates an interference pattern. What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit experiment; the aether. Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. Both are waves in the aether. Your uncompressible and perfectly transparent aether of supposed greater mass than everything else combined, is truly special stuff, in that it makes most other physics null and void. What's funny is that you see nothing wrong with any of that. |
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On Mar 7, 7:53Ā*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
Your uncompressible and perfectly transparent aether of supposed greater mass than everything else combined, is truly special stuff, in that it makes most other physics null and void. Ā*What's funny is that you see nothing wrong with any of that. Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. The incompressible fluid described in the following article is the gravitational aether which "the theory reduces to GR coupled to an incompressible fluid." 'Empty Black Holes, Firewalls, and the Origin of Bekenstein-Hawking Entropy' http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.4176 "But why an incompressible fluid? The reason comes from an attempt to solve the (old) cosmological constant problem, which is arguably the most puzzling aspect of coupling gravity to relativistic quantum mechanics [13]. Given that the natural expectation value for the vacuum of the standard model of particle physics is ā¼ 60 orders of magnitude heavier than the gravitational measurements of vacuum density, it is reasonable to entertain an alternative theory of gravity where the standard model vacuum decouples from gravity. Such a theory could be realized by coupling gravity to the traceless part of the quantum mechanical energy-momentum tensor. However, the consistency/covariance of gravitational field equations then requires introducing an auxiliary fluid, the so-called gravitational aether [14]. The simplest model for gravitational aether is an incompressible fluid (with vanishing energy density, but non-vanishing pressure), which is currently consistent with all cosmological, astrophysical, and precision tests of gravity [15, 16]: __3__ 32ĻGN GĪ¼Ī½ = TĪ¼Ī½ ā TĪ± gĪ¼Ī½ + TĪ¼Ī½ , TĪ¼Ī½ = p (uĪ¼ uĪ½ + gĪ¼Ī½ ), T Ī¼Ī½;Ī½ = 0, where GN is Newtonās constant, TĪ¼Ī½ is the matter energy momentum tensor and TĪ¼Ī½ is the incompressible gravitational aether fluid. In vacuum, the theory reduces to GR coupled to an incompressible fluid." The following article describes a 'back reaction' associated with the "fluidic" nature of space itself. This is the displaced aether 'displacing back'. 'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and Inertial Backreaction' http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458 "We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide further evidence of the āfluidicā nature of space itself." The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the 'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the matter. The following article describes the aether as that which produces resistance to acceleration and is responsible for the increase in mass of an object with velocity and describes the "space-time ideal fluid approach from general relativity." 'Fluidic Electrodynamics: On parallels between electromagnetic and fluidic inertia' http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.4611 "It is shown that the force exerted on a particle by an ideal fluid produces two effects: i) resistance to acceleration and, ii) an increase of mass with velocity. ... The interaction between the particle and the entrained space flow gives rise to the observed properties of inertia and the relativistic increase of mass. ... Accordingly, in this framework the non resistance of a particle in uniform motion through an ideal fluid (DāAlembertās paradox) corresponds to Newtonās first law. The law of inertia suggests that the physical vacuum can be modeled as an ideal fluid, agreeing with the space-time ideal fluid approach from general relativity." The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic mass of the object. |
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spacetime is just a phase-space,
no different (though much simpler) than Hamiltonian or Lagrangian phase-spaces. it does not have any curvature, other than the variable density of the space; time cannot be said to "hath curvature," except in a very subjectively obvious sense of birth, generally follwoed by deathsville. Your uncompressible and perfectly transparent aether of supposed thus: there is no "global" warming in the glass "house" metaphor, even by itself. GCMs that confirm this, and then point to changes of floating ice ... don't use a) Snell's law of refraction, and b) angular momentum of floating ice. this is amply confirmed by the GRACE datum, just to pick a one. Utter silence from the pro-AGW sociopaths. thus: frequency is inverse of period, which is proportional to wavelength "of a wave, propogating through space, depending upon the index of refraction, always somewhat less than one, dood." thus: no, What?... did Pascal really discover an absolute vacuum? he may have thought, so; at any rate, he did discover the heighth of a single stage for a suction pump for water, about 32 feet, experimentally. there is an extremely common confusion of lightwaves, which spread at the speed of light, and Newton's ray-tracing, which may be lamentable ... if anyone ever said, Boo, Fignewton! your rulers are bent-up lightwaves, requiring at least one atom between the source of the wave, such as a tank circuit, and your eye; no requirement whathowever for an aetheric "electromagnetism of any substance other than elctrons jumping orbits." No. thus: it is merely an indicator of human activity, most of which is what constitutes the local warmings, although there is no "global" warming in the glass "house" analogy, by itself, utilizing Snell's law of refraction. anway, CO2 is not usually the limiting factor; it is more often one of the 92 elements ... although commercial "NPK" actually containd gravelflour, so ... 800-1000 ppmv would be good for crops which put much water vapor in the air, staying cool!! thus: curvature per Gauss is simply the reciprocal of diameter, and this is really all there is to it: the curvature of space has local & global aspects to it, related directly to the permitivity & pemeability of free space (or, the index of refraction per Snell) ... because of its atomic structure ... because of its atoms, mostly some H+ and gobs of H2. the old aetherists simply had an inadequate grok of the atoms in space (and/or air). thus: "spacetime" is a sorry rattle-trap of a bad anaolgy, taken to proverbial extremes of cartesianism; use quaternions as the essentially "3-plus-a-totally-different-ONE- so-called-dimensionality. now, Fermat did not extend his method of coordination to three dimensions, even; it was still better, though he spent more time on creating the theory of numbers. |
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On Mar 7, 8:02*pm, 1treePetrifiedForestLane
wrote: "spacetime" is a sorry rattle-trap of a bad anaolgy The Milky Way's halo is what is referred to curved spacetime. The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether. The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime physically exists as the state of displacement of the aether. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. |
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Aether has mass
it is merely a very simple phase-space, is "space-time;"
the curvature of space has been known since Eratosthenes established an approximate diameter (or curvature) of Eaaarht; measured directly in Allsace-Lorraine by Gauss. if you wish, you can say it is "the local curvature of Universe." this is a great opportunity for you to teach us some of the properties of quaternions, by which all relevant "relativistical" properties of space can be quantumfied. The Milky Way's halo is what is referred to curved spacetime. |
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aether has balls
a.k.a. atoms, which electromagnetically "behave."
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:42:13 -0500, HVAC wrote:
I bet you're a real smooth talker with the ladies, MP3 Only if they are interested in aether theory. Personally, I've found you make more headway if you talk about ghosts. |
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On Mar 7, 5:02Ā*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Mar 7, 7:53Ā*pm, Brad Guth wrote: Your uncompressible and perfectly transparent aether of supposed greater mass than everything else combined, is truly special stuff, in that it makes most other physics null and void. Ā*What's funny is that you see nothing wrong with any of that. Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter. Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. The incompressible fluid described in the following article is the gravitational aether which "the theory reduces to GR coupled to an incompressible fluid." 'Empty Black Holes, Firewalls, and the Origin of Bekenstein-Hawking Entropy'http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.4176 "But why an incompressible fluid? The reason comes from an attempt to solve the (old) cosmological constant problem, which is arguably the most puzzling aspect of coupling gravity to relativistic quantum mechanics [13]. Given that the natural expectation value for the vacuum of the standard model of particle physics is ā¼ 60 orders of magnitude heavier than the gravitational measurements of vacuum density, it is reasonable to entertain an alternative theory of gravity where the standard model vacuum decouples from gravity. Such a theory could be realized by coupling gravity to the traceless part of the quantum mechanical energy-momentum tensor. However, the consistency/covariance of gravitational field equations then requires introducing an auxiliary fluid, the so-called gravitational aether [14]. The simplest model for gravitational aether is an incompressible fluid (with vanishing energy density, but non-vanishing pressure), which is currently consistent with all cosmological, astrophysical, and precision tests of gravity [15, 16]: __3__ 32ĻGN GĪ¼Ī½ = TĪ¼Ī½ ā TĪ± gĪ¼Ī½ + TĪ¼Ī½ , TĪ¼Ī½ = p (uĪ¼ uĪ½ + gĪ¼Ī½ ), T Ī¼Ī½;Ī½ = 0, where GN is Newtonās constant, TĪ¼Ī½ is the matter energy momentum tensor and TĪ¼Ī½ is the incompressible gravitational aether fluid.. In vacuum, the theory reduces to GR coupled to an incompressible fluid." The following article describes a 'back reaction' associated with the "fluidic" nature of space itself. This is the displaced aether 'displacing back'. 'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and Inertial Backreaction'http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458 "We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide further evidence of the āfluidicā nature of space itself." The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the 'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the matter. The following article describes the aether as that which produces resistance to acceleration and is responsible for the increase in mass of an object with velocity and describes the "space-time ideal fluid approach from general relativity." 'Fluidic Electrodynamics: On parallels between electromagnetic and fluidic inertia'http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.4611 "It is shown that the force exerted on a particle by an ideal fluid produces two effects: i) resistance to acceleration and, ii) an increase of mass with velocity. ... The interaction between the particle and the entrained space flow gives rise to the observed properties of inertia and the relativistic increase of mass. ... Accordingly, in this framework the non resistance of a particle in uniform motion through an ideal fluid (DāAlembertās paradox) corresponds to Newtonās first law. The law of inertia suggests that the physical vacuum can be modeled as an ideal fluid, agreeing with the space-time ideal fluid approach from general relativity." The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic mass of the object. Where have we heard that a thousand times before? (just kidding) Can you personally demonstrate your displaced aether version of gravity, or is that sort of proof yet undeveloped for show and tell? |
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On Mar 8, 1:24*am, Brad Guth wrote:
Where have we heard that a thousand times before? (just kidding) Can you personally demonstrate your displaced aether version of gravity, or is that sort of proof yet undeveloped for show and tell? Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity. |
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