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Old January 22nd 07, 03:04 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Hop David
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Pat Flannery wrote:



Rand Simberg wrote:
(snip), since you seem historically ignorant.


A master of irony.
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Old January 22nd 07, 03:23 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:49:17 -0700, in a place far, far away, Hop
David made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:

no minority is being exterminated in Iraq. Even if all the Sunnis or
Shia there were killed (unlikely), there'd be millions of others
elsewhere.

So because there were Jews elsewhere, the Holocaust doesn't count as
genocide?



No. The intent was to wipe out the Jews. If Hitler had achieved his
ultimate ambition of world domination he would have done so.


So those killing Sunnis are restricting their efforts to Iraqi Sunnis?


Probably. I'm not aware, and haven't seen any evidence, that they
have any intent of invading Saudi Arabia or Jordan in order to kill
Sunnis. They just want to run Iraq. It's mostly about revenge for
all of the Ba'athist oppression over the past few decades. And of
course, for the more recent atrocities against Shia encouraged by Al
Qaeda in Iraq, such as the Golden Dome bombing.

Don't confuse a blood feud and civil war with genocide. It really
does water down the meaning of the word to uselessness.

Here's a challenge, to anyone, but particularly to those who think
that the UN's definition of genocide is valid and useful. Does anyone
here think that it would be possible to get the UN to declare what's
happening in Iraq by that word?
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Old January 22nd 07, 03:25 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:04:26 -0700, in a place far, far away, Hop
David made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such
a way as to indicate that:

Pat Flannery wrote:



Rand Simberg wrote:
(snip), since you seem historically ignorant.


A master of irony.


To whom are you referring, and on what basis?
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Old January 22nd 07, 09:18 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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In message , Pat Flannery
writes


Rand Simberg wrote:
That "gang of criminals" still exists, and continues to be funded in
the same manner as it was on 911, from a lot of Saudi oil money, and
protected by tribal leaders in the anarchy of Waziristan.


Okay.. what the **** is "Waziristan"?



That reply is beneath you, Pat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004-2006_Waziristan_conflict has some
recent history.
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Old January 22nd 07, 09:32 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:18:47 GMT, in a place far, far away, Jonathan
Silverlight made the
phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Rand Simberg wrote:
That "gang of criminals" still exists, and continues to be funded in
the same manner as it was on 911, from a lot of Saudi oil money, and
protected by tribal leaders in the anarchy of Waziristan.


Okay.. what the **** is "Waziristan"?


That reply is beneath you, Pat.


I'd like to think that there are replies that are beneath Pat, but I'm
not sure there are. That one certainly (obviously) wasn't, unless
someone hijacked his account.

As already noted, he should be embarrassed to be attempting to argue
about these issues when he's so ignorant of them. Guess it's easier
to hope that Chimpy McHalliburton chokes to death on a pretzel. That
requires no thought, or knowledge at all.
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Old January 23rd 07, 01:19 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...

That reply is beneath you, Pat.


I'd like to think that there are replies that are beneath Pat, but I'm
not sure there are. That one certainly (obviously) wasn't, unless
someone hijacked his account.


troops...cool it. You're two of the Good Guys around here. Grab a couple
beers and makethe****upalready.

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solution that has worked successfully in one area, and trying to apply it in
another area where it isn't appropriate."
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Old January 23rd 07, 01:49 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Okay.. what the **** is "Waziristan"?



That reply is beneath you, Pat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004-2006_Waziristan_conflict has some
recent history.


Well, it did sound like a flippant made up name, like "Butt-wipe-ah-stan".
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Old January 23rd 07, 01:50 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:19:55 -0500, in a place far, far away, "Terrell
Miller" made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

"Rand Simberg" wrote in message
...

That reply is beneath you, Pat.


I'd like to think that there are replies that are beneath Pat, but I'm
not sure there are. That one certainly (obviously) wasn't, unless
someone hijacked his account.


troops...cool it. You're two of the Good Guys around here. Grab a couple
beers and makethe****upalready.


It would be a lot easier to do that if he wasn't determined to live in
North frickin' Dakota....
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Old January 23rd 07, 02:29 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:19:55 -0600, Terrell Miller wrote
(in article Rodth.541$ch1.249@bigfe9):

troops...cool it. You're two of the Good Guys around here


Pat is; Rand has turned into a misanthropic troll.

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You can run on for a long time,
Sooner or later, God'll cut you down.
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Old January 23rd 07, 02:36 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:29:27 -0600, in a place far, far away, Herb
Schaltegger made the phosphor on
my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:19:55 -0600, Terrell Miller wrote
(in article Rodth.541$ch1.249@bigfe9):

troops...cool it. You're two of the Good Guys around here


Pat is; Rand has turned into a misanthropic troll.


An interesting opinion. But that's all it is. It's certainly
unsubstantiated. And unsubstantiable...
 




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