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Space Solar Power Gets A Boost
The U.S. military is backing a major venture to build solar-power
generating satellites. See: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...5-9e243b6f8237 |
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On Oct 12, 11:57 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
wrote: The U.S. military is backing a major venture to build solar-power generating satellites. See: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...plckController... My guess is that the military are interested in beaming the power down to people who are not expecting it. Sylvia. Well, I was at White Sands a few months ago, and I spoke with folks there. There is about 2 milion acres of military lands, and there are another 8 million or so call-up areas. I proposed ringing the military bases with solar panels in order to stop encroachment. Also spoke briefly about the potential of building a 12 million acre array between the US and Mexico along the 2,500 mile border. This much acreage would provide America the ability to export synfuels made from sunlight to the rest of the world, as well as ending our reliance on middle east oil. this would do a lot of good things for America and the world. It would also require building a large fleet of reusable launch vehicles which have other uses, and also have weapons applications I suppose. Another thing is that it creates a space based capability, similar to GPS in its scope - that allows you to beam power to aircraft, seacraft land craft and spacecraft from orbit - and forward bases - resolving a major supply chain issue. Replacing all those fuel shipments with food and bullets. Making folks more effective. Of course a global broadband would permit remotely controlled robot soldiers - controlled by soldiers back at home base - which would put our enemies in harms way and our men and women out of harms way. - powered from space - and end the need for food. (though oil and spare parts might be called for) Regenerating laser energy could also be used for advanced rayguns instead of traditional guns would end the need for bullet supply chain. - which combined with missile deployment capabilities would allow instant reponse anywhere in the world - in response to space basedsensing and so forth. That is space power has important industrial and commercial applications that help secure the US for the long term, as well as immediate tactical benefits for the military, and long-term strategic benefits as well. |
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Sylvia Else wrote:
My guess is that the military are interested in beaming the power down to people who are not expecting it. Whether they are or not, the public perception that they might be makes this expression of interest a wash if not a net negative for the over-all prospects of space solar power. SPsats already face a long uphill battle in terms of sheer cost accounting vs. other big-ticket energy investments... And another against the conviction in some quarters that small, green, local, appropriate etc. is inherently preferable to *any* high-tech, big-infrastructure energy solution (which is seen, no matter how clean, as "more of what got us into this mess")... So why make things even harder by enhancing the "OMG, death rays from orbit!" factor? You're going to have to prove in any case that your SPsat design physically *cannot* zap ground targets, and some won't believe you anyway. The more military involvement in the project's genesis, the harder that becomes. |
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On Oct 12, 8:57 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
wrote: The U.S. military is backing a major venture to build solar-power generating satellites. See: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...plckController... My guess is that the military are interested in beaming the power down to people who are not expecting it. Sylvia. They'll first try zapping our Willie.Moo/William Mook, then used for keeping all other missions from getting too close to our hocus-pocus moon, or especially from taking up any station-keeping at the moon's L1. Trust me, it's another Zion/Yiddish plot of global domination. Such nifty SBLs are just the kind of StarWars tactic that'll work. - Brad Guth - |
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On Oct 12, 11:56 pm, wrote:
On Oct 12, 11:57 pm, Sylvia Else wrote: wrote: The U.S. military is backing a major venture to build solar-power generating satellites. See: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...plckController... My guess is that the military are interested in beaming the power down to people who are not expecting it. Sylvia. Well, I was at White Sands a few months ago, and I spoke with folks there. There is about 2 milion acres of military lands, and there are another 8 million or so call-up areas. I proposed ringing the military bases with solar panels in order to stop encroachment. Also spoke briefly about the potential of building a 12 million acre array between the US and Mexico along the 2,500 mile border. This much acreage would provide America the ability to export synfuels made from sunlight to the rest of the world, as well as ending our reliance on middle east oil. this would do a lot of good things for America and the world. It would also require building a large fleet of reusable launch vehicles which have other uses, and also have weapons applications I suppose. Another thing is that it creates a space based capability, similar to GPS in its scope - that allows you to beam power to aircraft, seacraft land craft and spacecraft from orbit - and forward bases - resolving a major supply chain issue. Replacing all those fuel shipments with food and bullets. Making folks more effective. Of course a global broadband would permit remotely controlled robot soldiers - controlled by soldiers back at home base - which would put our enemies in harms way and our men and women out of harms way. - powered from space - and end the need for food. (though oil and spare parts might be called for) Regenerating laser energy could also be used for advanced rayguns instead of traditional guns would end the need for bullet supply chain. - which combined with missile deployment capabilities would allow instant reponse anywhere in the world - in response to space basedsensing and so forth. That is space power has important industrial and commercial applications that help secure the US for the long term, as well as immediate tactical benefits for the military, and long-term strategic benefits as well. It looking much like I'm the one and only Willie.Moo supporter you've got. My LSE-CM/ISS tether dipole element can brovide your battery of SBLs with not only the unlimited cache of clean energy but also the tether termination platform from which to operate near to Earth, and there's so much more where that came from. Still think those pesky Zion Yids in charge of your private parts and otherwise global fossil and yellowcake energy don't have it in for anything Willie.Moo? - Brad Guth - |
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wrote in message ups.com... The U.S. military is backing a major venture to build solar-power generating satellites. See: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...5-9e243b6f8237 "Ten Billion over ten years" "Practical in the next couple of decades"! "No technology showstoppers"! Brings a tear to my eye~ With c02 levels around 300 ppm, rising at over 2% per year, and 345ppm considered the tipping point, NASA needs to step up to the plate. Instead of a guilded safari to the moon. NASA needs to prepare to completely redesign its purpose for existing. NASA needs to do more than simply watch the world while it melts-down. It needs to be the agency dedicated to do nothing less than ..... Saving the World. When a single project has the potential to unite the war-machine and tree-huggers alike... that's telling us something important. Universal appeal means universal benefits. Optimizing one means optimizing the other. When that happens it can't fail to 'take on a life of its own' and produce the capability for humanity to at last control our own destiny. Al Gore for President...someday! Jonathan s |
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"Monte Davis" wrote in message ... Sylvia Else wrote: My guess is that the military are interested in beaming the power down to people who are not expecting it. Whether they are or not, the public perception that they might be makes this expression of interest a wash if not a net negative for the over-all prospects of space solar power. SPsats already face a long uphill battle in terms of sheer cost accounting vs. other big-ticket energy investments... And another against the conviction in some quarters that small, green, local, appropriate etc. is inherently preferable to *any* high-tech, big-infrastructure energy solution (which is seen, no matter how clean, as "more of what got us into this mess")... So why make things even harder by enhancing the "OMG, death rays from orbit!" factor? You're going to have to prove in any case that your SPsat design physically *cannot* zap ground targets, and some won't believe you anyway. The more military involvement in the project's genesis, the harder that becomes. China shouldn't have launched that asat. I think laser transmission is the future and doubt you could prevent the dual use of SSP anymore than with, say, aircraft or satellite communication. Our military complex certainly has taken on a life of its own long ago. So there's no stopping the military from taking the next logical step in its drive to militarize space. First SSP as a convenient energy source for the troops, to someday another step into a weapon. It's up to NASA to piggyback and develop this for civilian use. The train is starting to move out of the station. NASA needs to jump on board. s |
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Jonathan wrote:
Al Gore for President...someday! Jonathan I'd rather have Emily for President. |
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Monte Davis wrote:
:Sylvia Else wrote: : :My guess is that the military are interested in beaming the power down :to people who are not expecting it. : :Whether they are or not, the public perception that they might be :makes this expression of interest a wash if not a net negative for the ver-all prospects of space solar power. : You folks are acting like fuming loonies. If the military wanted an 'orbital death ray', that's what they'd be talking about. As it is, it's all jawboning and not exactly news. DoD doesn't have the $10 billion investment and neither does anyone else. -- You have never lived until you have almost died. Life has a special meaning that the protected will never know. |
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