Build your own lunar space ship by mixing & matching...

Boeing has kindly provided lots of images for implementing the Bush
plan--make your own space ship!

http://boeingmedia.com/images/search...roduct_id=1525

These graphics were provided at no extra cost to the US taxpayer.

There appear to be some inconsistencies with these images. For
example, it looks like the autonomous cargo vehicle that supposedly
serves a cargo function on the Lunar space station connects to the Hab
and Crew Control modules through its heat shield...hmmm. Doesn't look
like a lot went into this...

Tom Merkle

On 26 Jan 2004 02:05:54 -0800, (Tom Merkle) wrote:

Boeing has kindly provided lots of images for implementing the Bush
plan--make your own space ship!

http://boeingmedia.com/images/search...roduct_id=1525

These graphics were provided at no extra cost to the US taxpayer.

There appear to be some inconsistencies with these images. For
example, it looks like the autonomous cargo vehicle that supposedly
serves a cargo function on the Lunar space station connects to the Hab
and Crew Control modules through its heat shield...hmmm. Doesn't look
like a lot went into this...

Looks like Boeing is getting it's oar in early in the off-chance that
the Bush adminstration likes its concepts to grants it some research
funding.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:38:13 GMT, in a place far, far away,
(Christopher) made the phosphor on my monitor
glow in such a way as to indicate that:

Looks like Boeing is getting it's oar in early in the off-chance that
the Bush adminstration likes its concepts to grants it some research
funding.

Boeing is already funded for this, as is Lockmart.

"Tom Merkle" wrote in message om...

Boeing has kindly provided lots of images for implementing the Bush
plan--make your own space ship!

http://boeingmedia.com/images/search...roduct_id=1525

These graphics were provided at no extra cost to the US taxpayer.

There appear to be some inconsistencies with these images. For
example, it looks like the autonomous cargo vehicle that supposedly
serves a cargo function on the Lunar space station connects to the Hab
and Crew Control modules through its heat shield...hmmm. Doesn't look
like a lot went into this...

Soviet modules have had heat-shield-side access and docking mechanisms
in the past. The shuttle's landing gear must be behind heat-shield-
side doors.

So why not?



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In article ,
Tom Merkle wrote:
http://boeingmedia.com/images/search...roduct_id=1525

This is a shameless attempt to inflate expectations with inflatable
modules. Don't worry, no moon base will actually come of it. It would
make the space station look good in comparison.

These graphics were provided at no extra cost to the US taxpayer.

Yes, the glossy brochure is always free. Cough, cough.

Doesn't look like a lot went into this.

No kidding.

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In article ,
Tom Merkle wrote:
Doesn't look like a lot went into this.

No kidding.

Since every description begins with "An artist's rendering", I think
it's safe to say that these aren't CAD drawings. They're what used to
be called "An artist's concept", before computer rendering became
popular. It's no big surprise that these pictures have obvious flaws.

However, they do show some design intent (even if it was a guess by
the artist), especially through reading the captions. One that's
glaringly obvious is the use of the Delta IV Heavy to launch the
pieces into LEO for assembly.

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In article , Ool wrote:
"Tom Merkle" wrote in message om...

Boeing has kindly provided lots of images for implementing the Bush
plan--make your own space ship!

http://boeingmedia.com/images/search...roduct_id=1525

These graphics were provided at no extra cost to the US taxpayer.

There appear to be some inconsistencies with these images. For
example, it looks like the autonomous cargo vehicle that supposedly
serves a cargo function on the Lunar space station connects to the Hab
and Crew Control modules through its heat shield...hmmm. Doesn't look
like a lot went into this...

Soviet modules have had heat-shield-side access and docking mechanisms
in the past. The shuttle's landing gear must be behind heat-shield-
side doors.

Indeed, it was good enough for the USAF...

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/mol.htm

http://www.astronautix.com/craft/geminib.htm

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"Ool" wrote in message ...
"Tom Merkle" wrote in message om...

Boeing has kindly provided lots of images for implementing the Bush
plan--make your own space ship!

http://boeingmedia.com/images/search...roduct_id=1525

These graphics were provided at no extra cost to the US taxpayer.

(sarcasm)

There appear to be some inconsistencies with these images. For
example, it looks like the autonomous cargo vehicle that supposedly
serves a cargo function on the Lunar space station connects to the Hab
and Crew Control modules through its heat shield...hmmm. Doesn't look
like a lot went into this...

Soviet modules have had heat-shield-side access and docking mechanisms
in the past. The shuttle's landing gear must be behind heat-shield-
side doors.

So why not?

Better example of crackpottedness: the "lunar module" appears to be an
orbital hab with an orbital resource module and nice thick legs
attached.

Riding that much mass all the way down to the lunar surface would take
a LOT of fuel. I approve of the inflateable LM, however. That's
essentially what Apollo had.

Tom Merkle

There appear to be some inconsistencies with these images. For
example, it looks like the autonomous cargo vehicle that supposedly
serves a cargo function on the Lunar space station connects to the Hab
and Crew Control modules through its heat shield...hmmm. Doesn't look
like a lot went into this...

Tom Merkle

1) Just because the cargo module has a heat shield for the earth return mission
dosn't mean it needs one for other missions. If it's going to spend it's life
as part of a lunar station, the heat shield is pretty much wasted mass. Note
that the rendering of the luna station depicts that part of the station with a
medium gey that is different from the dark tone it uses elsewhere for heat
shields.

2) It is practical to put a hatch in a heat shield. The Russian TKS capsule and
the prototype MOL Gemini had them, and worked OK. And of course, both Shuttle
and Buran Have or had a number of hatches in the TPS.

Will McLean

Better example of crackpottedness: the "lunar module" appears to be an
orbital hab with an orbital resource module and nice thick legs
attached.

Riding that much mass all the way down to the lunar surface would take
a LOT of fuel. I approve of the inflateable LM, however. That's
essentially what Apollo had.

Tom Merkle


It isn't a short stay taxi, like the Apollo LM. It's a long-duration lunar
habitation module. If you want an extended stay on the moon, you will need
something bigger than a LM cabin. This is a not unreasonable solution to that
need.

The taxi role would presumably be filled by a different vehicle.

Will McLean