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EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)



 
 
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Old August 7th 07, 08:50 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)

http://press-releases.techwhack.com/11672/nasa-20/
"NASA has selected four proposals focusing on astrophysics priorities
in lunar science to facilitate the nation's exploration program. The
proposed studies are part of a NASA effort to develop new
opportunities to conduct important science investigations during the
planned renewal of human exploration of the moon. The newly-announced
proposals for concept studies may lead to experiments placed on the
moon that would allow for unprecedented tests of Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity."

Pentcho Valev

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Old August 7th 07, 11:39 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique
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Default EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)

"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
ups.com...
http://press-releases.techwhack.com/11672/nasa-20/
"NASA has selected four proposals focusing on astrophysics priorities
in lunar science to facilitate the nation's exploration program. The
proposed studies are part of a NASA effort to develop new
opportunities to conduct important science investigations during the
planned renewal of human exploration of the moon. The newly-announced
proposals for concept studies may lead to experiments placed on the
moon that would allow for unprecedented tests of Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity."


So what?



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Old August 7th 07, 11:58 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique
Philippe Gaucher
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Default EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)

"Jeckyl" writes:

"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
ups.com...
http://press-releases.techwhack.com/11672/nasa-20/
"NASA has selected four proposals focusing on astrophysics priorities
in lunar science to facilitate the nation's exploration program. The
proposed studies are part of a NASA effort to develop new
opportunities to conduct important science investigations during the
planned renewal of human exploration of the moon. The newly-announced
proposals for concept studies may lead to experiments placed on the
moon that would allow for unprecedented tests of Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity."


So what?


For Pentcho Valev, everything proves that he is right and that you're
wrong ('you' actually means 'anyone else'). Therefore : you are wrong
:-).

pg.
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Old August 7th 07, 12:08 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)

On 7 Aug, 13:39, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message

ups.com...

http://press-releases.techwhack.com/11672/nasa-20/
"NASA has selected four proposals focusing on astrophysics priorities
in lunar science to facilitate the nation's exploration program. The
proposed studies are part of a NASA effort to develop new
opportunities to conduct important science investigations during the
planned renewal of human exploration of the moon. The newly-announced
proposals for concept studies may lead to experiments placed on the
moon that would allow for unprecedented tests of Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity."


So what?


"Unprecedented tests of Einstein's General Theory of Relativity" on
the moon, that is, a new money-spinner. Isn't that exciting? Then
there will be "unprecedented tests of Einstein's General Theory of
Relativity" on Mars etc. Those will be desperate steps indeed but no
more money will come from standard experiments:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_ne...057529,00.html "Few
scientists need the final results, which will be revealed in December,
to convince them of Einstein's genius. 'From the most esoteric aspects
of time dilation through to the beautiful and simple equation, e=mc2,
the vast bulk of Einstein's ideas about the universe are standing up
to the test of time,' said Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical
Society. He said the mission was 'legitimate science' to test a theory
and confirm its brilliance, but others have criticised the costs and
length of the study, claiming that what was announced had already been
shown. Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal, said the announcement
would 'fork no lightning'."

Pentcho Valev

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Old August 7th 07, 12:53 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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Default EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)

On 7 Aug, 13:58, Philippe Gaucher wrote:
"Jeckyl" writes:
"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
oups.com...
http://press-releases.techwhack.com/11672/nasa-20/
"NASA has selected four proposals focusing on astrophysics priorities
in lunar science to facilitate the nation's exploration program. The
proposed studies are part of a NASA effort to develop new
opportunities to conduct important science investigations during the
planned renewal of human exploration of the moon. The newly-announced
proposals for concept studies may lead to experiments placed on the
moon that would allow for unprecedented tests of Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity."


So what?


For Pentcho Valev, everything proves that he is right and that you're
wrong ('you' actually means 'anyone else'). Therefore : you are wrong
:-).


C'est un humour francais tres subtile mais en anglais c'est plutot
bete. Tout ce que tu dois fai etudier et meme apprendre par coeur
cela:

http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/bibli...4-0486406768-0 :
"Relativity and Its Roots" by Banesh Hoffmann:
Banesh Hoffmann, "La relativite, histoire d'une grande idee", Pour la
Science, Paris, 1999, p. 112: "De plus, si l'on admet que la lumiere
est constituee de particules, comme Einstein l'avait suggere dans son
premier article, 13 semaines plus tot, le second principe parait
absurde: une pierre jetee d'un train qui roule tres vite fait bien
plus de degats que si on la jette d'un train a l'arret. Or, d'apres
Einstein, la vitesse d'une certaine particule ne serait pas
independante du mouvement du corps qui l'emet! Si nous considerons que
la lumiere est composee de particules qui obeissent aux lois de
Newton, ces particules se conformeront a la relativite newtonienne.
Dans ce cas, il n'est pas necessaire de recourir a la contraction des
longueurs, au temps local ou a la transformation de Lorentz pour
expliquer l'echec de l'experience de Michelson-Morley. Einstein, comme
nous l'avons vu, resista cependant a la tentation d'expliquer ces
echecs a l'aide des idees newtoniennes, simples et familieres. Il
introduisit son second postulat, plus ou moins evident lorsqu'on
pensait en termes d'ondes dans l'ether."

Je viendrai a Paris cet automne, on discutera et on comprendra peut-
etre pourquoi Einstein resista a la tentation d'expliquer l'echec de
l'experience de Michelson-Morley a l'aide des idees newtoniennes.

Pentcho Valev

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Old August 7th 07, 01:54 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
Jeckyl
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Default EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)

"Philippe Gaucher" wrote in message
...
"Jeckyl" writes:

"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
ups.com...
http://press-releases.techwhack.com/11672/nasa-20/
"NASA has selected four proposals focusing on astrophysics priorities
in lunar science to facilitate the nation's exploration program. The
proposed studies are part of a NASA effort to develop new
opportunities to conduct important science investigations during the
planned renewal of human exploration of the moon. The newly-announced
proposals for concept studies may lead to experiments placed on the
moon that would allow for unprecedented tests of Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity."


So what?


For Pentcho Valev, everything proves that he is right and that you're
wrong ('you' actually means 'anyone else'). Therefore : you are wrong
:-).


Yeup .. he's nothing but a troll.


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Old August 7th 07, 04:25 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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Default EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)

Dear Pentcho Valev:

On Aug 7, 4:08 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On 7 Aug, 13:39, "Jeckyl" wrote:

"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message


oups.com...


http://press-releases.techwhack.com/11672/nasa-20/
"NASA has selected four proposals focusing on
astrophysics priorities in lunar science to facilitate
the nation's exploration program. The proposed
studies are part of a NASA effort to develop new
opportunities to conduct important science
investigations during the planned renewal of
human exploration of the moon. The newly-
announced proposals for concept studies may
lead to experiments placed on the moon that
would allow for unprecedented tests of Einstein's
General Theory of Relativity."


So what?


"Unprecedented tests of Einstein's General Theory
of Relativity" on the moon, that is, a new money-
spinner. Isn't that exciting? Then there will be
"unprecedented tests of Einstein's General Theory
of Relativity" on Mars etc. Those will be desperate
steps indeed but no more money will come from
standard experiments:


You understand that theories require entirely new tests, to see where
they fail, right? I understand that you think that everything
"relativity" is wrong, regardless of what experiments have already
been run that failed to falsify it.

So are you arguing for the test to attempt falsify it, are you arguing
against the test because you know (as the scientists don't) this too
will fail to falsify it, or are you simply bitching that more money is
being spent in space exploration.. rather than giving it to you and
giving you your rightful place as "King and Dispenser of All Sanity"?

Frankly, I'd like to see if there is "Universal expansion" between
here and the Moon. By more than one (hard working, I'm sure) person.
If you cared to know.

David A. Smith

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Old August 7th 07, 09:06 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro
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Default EINSTEINIANS TEST RELATIVITY ON THE MOON (ON EARTH IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE)

On Aug 7, 2:54 pm, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Philippe Gaucher" wrote in message

...







"Jeckyl" writes:


"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
roups.com...
http://press-releases.techwhack.com/11672/nasa-20/
"NASA has selected four proposals focusing on astrophysics priorities
in lunar science to facilitate the nation's exploration program. The
proposed studies are part of a NASA effort to develop new
opportunities to conduct important science investigations during the
planned renewal of human exploration of the moon. The newly-announced
proposals for concept studies may lead to experiments placed on the
moon that would allow for unprecedented tests of Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity."


So what?


For Pentcho Valev, everything proves that he is right and that you're
wrong ('you' actually means 'anyone else'). Therefore : you are wrong
:-).


Yeup .. he's nothing but a troll.


i dont know bout him, but you post in

alt.morons

you must be a moron

 




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