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Old September 5th 07, 05:47 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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18th century NORMALITY:

http://admin.wadsworth.com/resource_...Ch01-Essay.pdf
Clifford Will, "THE RENAISSANCE OF GENERAL RELATIVITY": "The first
glimmerings of the black hole idea date to the 18th century, in the
writings of a British amateur astronomer, the Reverend John Michell.
Reasoning on the basis of the corpuscular theory that light would be
attracted by gravity, he noted that the speed of light emitted from
the surface of a massive body would be reduced by the time the light
was very far from the source. (Michell of course did not know special
relativity.)"

21st century LUNACY:

http://space.newscientist.com/articl...star-size.html
"But light from the disc also loses energy - and is shifted to longer,
redder wavelengths - because it has to work hard to escape the
gravitational pull of the dense neutron star. This effect, called
gravitational redshift, is predicted by Einstein's theory of general
relativity, which posits that gravity bends the fabric of space-time."

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 5th 07, 07:38 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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Einstein tries to save NORMALITY but fails:

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepa...ml#forthcoming
"Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the
Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies that Led him to it." in Cambridge
Companion to Einstein, M. Janssen and C. Lehner, eds., Cambridge
University Press. Preprint.
John Norton: "Einstein could not see how to formulate a fully
relativistic electrodynamics merely using his new device of field
transformations. So he considered the possibility of modifying
Maxwell's electrodynamics in order to bring it into accord with an
emission theory of light, such as Newton had originally conceived.
There was some inevitability in these attempts, as long as he held to
classical (Galilean) kinematics. Imagine that some emitter sends out a
light beam at c. According to this kinematics, an observer who moves
past at v in the opposite direction, will see the emitter moving at v
and the light emitted at c+v. This last fact is the defining
characteristic of an emission theory of light: the velocity of the
emitter is added vectorially to the velocity of light emitted....If an
emission theory can be formulated as a field theory, it would seem to
be unable to determine the future course of processes from their state
in the present. As long as Einstein expected a viable theory of light,
electricity and magnetism to be a field theory, these sorts of
objections would render an emission theory of light inadmissible."

Einstein is sorry for the LUNACY he has introduced:

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."

Pentcho Valev


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Old September 6th 07, 07:50 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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On 5 Sept, 09:38, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Einstein tries to save NORMALITY but fails:

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepa...ml#forthcoming
"Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the
Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies that Led him to it." in Cambridge
Companion to Einstein, M. Janssen and C. Lehner, eds., Cambridge
University Press. Preprint.
John Norton: "Einstein could not see how to formulate a fully
relativistic electrodynamics merely using his new device of field
transformations. So he considered the possibility of modifying
Maxwell's electrodynamics in order to bring it into accord with an
emission theory of light, such as Newton had originally conceived.
There was some inevitability in these attempts, as long as he held to
classical (Galilean) kinematics. Imagine that some emitter sends out a
light beam at c. According to this kinematics, an observer who moves
past at v in the opposite direction, will see the emitter moving at v
and the light emitted at c+v. This last fact is the defining
characteristic of an emission theory of light: the velocity of the
emitter is added vectorially to the velocity of light emitted....If an
emission theory can be formulated as a field theory, it would seem to
be unable to determine the future course of processes from their state
in the present. As long as Einstein expected a viable theory of light,
electricity and magnetism to be a field theory, these sorts of
objections would render an emission theory of light inadmissible."

Einstein is sorry for the LUNACY he has introduced:

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."


Hypocrisy combined with lunacy in Einstein zombie world:

http://discovermagazine.com/2004/sep...tart:int=2&-C=
Lee Smolin: "One way to understand this story is to say that
theoretical physics has finally caught up to Einstein. While he was
shunned in his Princeton years as he pursued the unified field theory,
the Institute for Advanced Study, where he worked, is now filled with
theorists who search for new variants of unified field theories. It is
indeed a vindication of sorts for Einstein because much of what
today's string theorists do in practice is play with unified theories
of the kinds that Einstein and his few colleagues invented. The
problem with this picture is that by the end of his life Einstein had
to some extent abandoned his search for a unified field theory. He had
failed to find a version of the theory that did what was most
important to him, which is to explain quantum phenomena in a way that
involved neither measurements nor statistics. In his last years he was
moving on to something even more radical. He proposed giving up the
idea that space and time are continuous. It is fair to say that while
the idea that matter is made of atoms goes back at least to the
Greeks, few before Einstein questioned the smoothness and continuity
of space and time. To one friend, Walter Dallenbäch, he wrote, "The
problem seems to me how one can formulate statements about a
discontinuum without calling on a continuum as an aid; the latter
should be banned from the theory as a supplementary construction not
justified by the essence of the problem, which corresponds to nothing
'real.'"......Some string theorists will claim to be Einsteinians, and
certainly Einstein would have approved of their search for a
unification of physics. But here is how Brian Greene, in his most
recent book, The Fabric of the Cosmos, describes the state of the
field: "Even today, more than three decades after its initial
articulation, most string practitioners believe we still don't have a
comprehensive answer to the rudimentary question, What is string
theory? Most researchers feel that our current formulation of string
theory still lacks the kind of core principle we find at the heart of
other major advances."....I think a sober assessment is that up till
now, almost all of us who work in theoretical physics have failed to
live up to Einstein's legacy. His demand for a coherent theory of
principle was uncompromising. It has not been reached-not by quantum
theory, not by special or general relativity, not by anything invented
since. Einstein's moral clarity, his insistence that we should accept
nothing less than a theory that gives a completely coherent account of
individual phenomena, cannot be followed unless we reject almost all
contemporary theoretical physics as insufficient.....Let us be frank
and admit that most of us have neither the courage nor the patience to
emulate Einstein. We should instead honor Einstein by asking whether
we can do anything to ensure that in the future those few who do
follow Einstein's path, who approach science as uncompromisingly as he
did, have less risk of unemployment, the sort he suffered at the
beginning of his career, and less risk of the marginalization he
endured at the end. If we can do this, if we can make the path easier
for those few who do follow him, we may make possible a revolution in
science that even Einstein failed to achieve."

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 6th 07, 07:54 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
Pentcho Valev
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On 5 Sept, 09:38, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Einstein tries to save NORMALITY but fails:

http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/homepa...ml#forthcoming
"Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity and the Problems in the
Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies that Led him to it." in Cambridge
Companion to Einstein, M. Janssen and C. Lehner, eds., Cambridge
University Press. Preprint.
John Norton: "Einstein could not see how to formulate a fully
relativistic electrodynamics merely using his new device of field
transformations. So he considered the possibility of modifying
Maxwell's electrodynamics in order to bring it into accord with an
emission theory of light, such as Newton had originally conceived.
There was some inevitability in these attempts, as long as he held to
classical (Galilean) kinematics. Imagine that some emitter sends out a
light beam at c. According to this kinematics, an observer who moves
past at v in the opposite direction, will see the emitter moving at v
and the light emitted at c+v. This last fact is the defining
characteristic of an emission theory of light: the velocity of the
emitter is added vectorially to the velocity of light emitted....If an
emission theory can be formulated as a field theory, it would seem to
be unable to determine the future course of processes from their state
in the present. As long as Einstein expected a viable theory of light,
electricity and magnetism to be a field theory, these sorts of
objections would render an emission theory of light inadmissible."

Einstein is sorry for the LUNACY he has introduced:

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."


Hypocrisy combined with lunacy in Einstein zombie world:

http://discovermagazine.com/2004/sep...tart:int=2&-C=
Lee Smolin: "One way to understand this story is to say that
theoretical physics has finally caught up to Einstein. While he was
shunned in his Princeton years as he pursued the unified field theory,
the Institute for Advanced Study, where he worked, is now filled with
theorists who search for new variants of unified field theories. It is
indeed a vindication of sorts for Einstein because much of what
today's string theorists do in practice is play with unified theories
of the kinds that Einstein and his few colleagues invented. The
problem with this picture is that by the end of his life Einstein had
to some extent abandoned his search for a unified field theory. He had
failed to find a version of the theory that did what was most
important to him, which is to explain quantum phenomena in a way that
involved neither measurements nor statistics. In his last years he was
moving on to something even more radical. He proposed giving up the
idea that space and time are continuous. It is fair to say that while
the idea that matter is made of atoms goes back at least to the
Greeks, few before Einstein questioned the smoothness and continuity
of space and time. To one friend, Walter Dallenbäch, he wrote, "The
problem seems to me how one can formulate statements about a
discontinuum without calling on a continuum as an aid; the latter
should be banned from the theory as a supplementary construction not
justified by the essence of the problem, which corresponds to nothing
'real.'"......Some string theorists will claim to be Einsteinians, and
certainly Einstein would have approved of their search for a
unification of physics. But here is how Brian Greene, in his most
recent book, The Fabric of the Cosmos, describes the state of the
field: "Even today, more than three decades after its initial
articulation, most string practitioners believe we still don't have a
comprehensive answer to the rudimentary question, What is string
theory? Most researchers feel that our current formulation of string
theory still lacks the kind of core principle we find at the heart of
other major advances."....I think a sober assessment is that up till
now, almost all of us who work in theoretical physics have failed to
live up to Einstein's legacy. His demand for a coherent theory of
principle was uncompromising. It has not been reached-not by quantum
theory, not by special or general relativity, not by anything invented
since. Einstein's moral clarity, his insistence that we should accept
nothing less than a theory that gives a completely coherent account of
individual phenomena, cannot be followed unless we reject almost all
contemporary theoretical physics as insufficient.....Let us be frank
and admit that most of us have neither the courage nor the patience to
emulate Einstein. We should instead honor Einstein by asking whether
we can do anything to ensure that in the future those few who do
follow Einstein's path, who approach science as uncompromisingly as he
did, have less risk of unemployment, the sort he suffered at the
beginning of his career, and less risk of the marginalization he
endured at the end. If we can do this, if we can make the path easier
for those few who do follow him, we may make possible a revolution in
science that even Einstein failed to achieve."

Pentcho Valev

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Old September 9th 07, 09:32 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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Pentcho Valev (or somebody else of the same name) wrote in message
. com:

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...09145525ca.pdf
Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."

Pentcho Valev


And so AE realised that one of his babies (GR) which required continuous
structures, was incompatible with the other (QM) which revolved around
discontinuity.

But let's not keep trying to knock GR and QM off their separate pedestals -
they are wonderful theories within their own domains - but rather let's try
to build a pedestal big enough for two.
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Old September 9th 07, 09:53 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.astrophysique
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On 9 Sept, 10:32, Prai Jei wrote:
Pentcho Valev (or somebody else of the same name) wrote in message
. com:

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf...0-433a-b7e3-4a...

Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
physics."


Pentcho Valev


And so AE realised that one of his babies (GR) which required continuous
structures, was incompatible with the other (QM) which revolved around
discontinuity.

But let's not keep trying to knock GR and QM off their separate pedestals -
they are wonderful theories within their own domains - but rather let's try
to build a pedestal big enough for two.


Something has been built already and you can even kiss it:

http://starbulletin.com/2007/06/24/travel/story02.html
"You can't sit on Lincoln's lap, but you can sit on Einstein ... and
even give him a kiss on the cheek".

Normal people should give Einstein a kiss on the cheek only but
Einsteinians should kiss other parts of his body as well. Then
Einsteinians should sing the hymn three times and go into convulsions
in the end:

http://www.bnl.gov/community/Tours/E.../Einsteine.jpg

http://www.haverford.edu/physics-astro/songs/divine.htm

http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-58/i...e_einstein.mp3

Pentcho Valev

 




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